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Cassini90125 · 11-17-2006, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

Evereyone deserves a second chance, don't judge her entire existance on one episode forever.

Not everyone. I don't mean him specifically, although he certainly comes to mind immediately. I agree about Mac's mom, though; I hate what she did in "House Of Bloo's", but I've never seen her as the ogress that many others make her out to be.

Mr. Marshmallow · 11-17-2006, 10:10 PM

I do believe people deserve a second chance, regardless of anything that person has done, it is not your job to mark them for life as something they did or said. If the person betrays again or does something bad again, then the trust is gone forever.

But I think the option for get a second try should always be available. "Batman Beyond" had the main guy Terry had this friend named Charlie, a theif who was once Terry's best friend gets out of jail and begs Terry to help him out. Terry does seeing as how they were friends.

Charlie goes right back to stealing, trust is gone forever, and we see Charlie is a crook through and through....but at least Terry had the decency to offer someone who didn't deserve it, a second chance. Its important to have. I still just am shocked that 1 episode still leaves this image of Mac's Mom to everyone.

I really never got that memo.

Cassini90125 · 11-17-2006, 10:26 PM

Nope. Some offenses are inexcusable. You do it once, you're done. I won't bother citing real-world examples; the list is far too long, and everybody knows the names anyway. And whether it is my job to judge them or not is irrelevant. It's human nature to judge others. Everyone does it. It may not be right by one standard of ethics or another, but that's how it is.

Mr. Marshmallow · 11-17-2006, 10:28 PM

I think people judging other people are inevitable, but I don't think "that's how it is" covers everything in terms of basics of what's right to forgive and what's not and all that jazz.

I do agree with you on some things are inexcusable, though I don't believe that what Mac's mom said is one of those things. I think this might be getting off topic tho.

Cassini90125 · 11-17-2006, 10:49 PM

Probably is. But again, I agree about Mac's mom. I've said this before, but I still think that giving up one's IF, voluntarily or otherwise, is a cultural tradition of the Foster's universe. We have our own such traditions, some just as vile, in the real world. They make absolutely no sense, and are often evil by any reasonable definition of the word, but people follow them anyway. Mac's mom is not bad, in that sense, just tradition-bound.

Voxxyn · 11-17-2006, 11:02 PM

I, too, think that some people are taking their dislike of Mac's Mom way too far. She's not heartless!

It'd be nice if Frankie confronted her, but I really doubt she would "angrily yell" and "chew her out" like some people her said. I think Frankie would instead have a civilized chat with her, in which she would try to get Mac's Mom to understand her and the Foster's stance on IFs... and maybe--just maybe--convince her to allow Bloo to stay at the apartment with Mac once in a while.

Mr. Marshmallow · 11-18-2006, 12:16 AM

Yeah, I think people are seeing as the meeting between Frankie and Mac's Mom as some sort of wrestling match over morals and how to raise Mac or something. It really isn't that critical considering how good Mac's Mom seems to be to Mac.

I think the tradition thing is more plausible then this heartless mom bit. She seemed decent and caring for her son during "Infernal Slumber", I think her issue with Bloo was because she felt Mac was getting too old and needed to move on.

I don't think she harbers a personal loathing for IFs or Bloo (Unless he did something isanely BAD to piss her off to high hell and force her to boot him out, but that's another story). I think she just wanted her son to not be picked on.

She seems concerned for Mac every time I've seen her with him, just like when she sounded freaked when Mac confessed he was upset at not having any underwear for Christmas. She sounded really concerned he felt so broken.

Plus she got him everything he wanted (he even said it), the issue was the Santa thing and that's another case. The point was, she cared enough to buy him everything he wanted and cared that he seemed upset at Christmas.

Doesn't sound that harsh or vile of a mom to me.

Sparky · 11-18-2006, 01:17 AM

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

LaBlooGirl · 11-18-2006, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

You couldn't have said it better, Sparky.

Mr. Marshmallow · 11-18-2006, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparky

I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean.

That's a BIG IF considering what a drastic and incredibly large difference their world is from ours.

11-17-2006, 10:10 PM	#72
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	I do believe people deserve a second chance, regardless of anything that person has done, it is not your job to mark them for life as something they did or said. If the person betrays again or does something bad again, then the trust is gone forever. But I think the option for get a second try should always be available. "Batman Beyond" had the main guy Terry had this friend named Charlie, a theif who was once Terry's best friend gets out of jail and begs Terry to help him out. Terry does seeing as how they were friends. Charlie goes right back to stealing, trust is gone forever, and we see Charlie is a crook through and through....but at least Terry had the decency to offer someone who didn't deserve it, a second chance. Its important to have. I still just am shocked that 1 episode still leaves this image of Mac's Mom to everyone. I really never got that memo. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999

11-17-2006, 10:26 PM	#73
Cassini90125 The Postmaster Love gives you courage that's stronger than anything! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saturn Posts: 6,652	Nope. Some offenses are inexcusable. You do it once, you're done. I won't bother citing real-world examples; the list is far too long, and everybody knows the names anyway. And whether it is my job to judge them or not is irrelevant. It's human nature to judge others. Everyone does it. It may not be right by one standard of ethics or another, but that's how it is. __________________ "Frankie! That weird kid is using a flower pot for a cup!" Sailor Moon. Best Anime EVER. Last edited by Cassini90125; 11-17-2006 at 10:27 PM.

11-17-2006, 10:28 PM	#74
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	I think people judging other people are inevitable, but I don't think "that's how it is" covers everything in terms of basics of what's right to forgive and what's not and all that jazz. I do agree with you on some things are inexcusable, though I don't believe that what Mac's mom said is one of those things. I think this might be getting off topic tho. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999

11-17-2006, 10:49 PM	#75
Cassini90125 The Postmaster Love gives you courage that's stronger than anything! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saturn Posts: 6,652	Probably is. But again, I agree about Mac's mom. I've said this before, but I still think that giving up one's IF, voluntarily or otherwise, is a cultural tradition of the Foster's universe. We have our own such traditions, some just as vile, in the real world. They make absolutely no sense, and are often evil by any reasonable definition of the word, but people follow them anyway. Mac's mom is not bad, in that sense, just tradition-bound. __________________ "Frankie! That weird kid is using a flower pot for a cup!" Sailor Moon. Best Anime EVER.

11-17-2006, 11:02 PM	#76
Voxxyn Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Zebes Posts: 1,069	I, too, think that some people are taking their dislike of Mac's Mom way too far. She's not heartless! It'd be nice if Frankie confronted her, but I really doubt she would "angrily yell" and "chew her out" like some people her said. I think Frankie would instead have a civilized chat with her, in which she would try to get Mac's Mom to understand her and the Foster's stance on IFs... and maybe--just maybe--convince her to allow Bloo to stay at the apartment with Mac once in a while. Last edited by Voxxyn; 11-17-2006 at 11:08 PM.

11-18-2006, 12:16 AM	#77
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	Yeah, I think people are seeing as the meeting between Frankie and Mac's Mom as some sort of wrestling match over morals and how to raise Mac or something. It really isn't that critical considering how good Mac's Mom seems to be to Mac. I think the tradition thing is more plausible then this heartless mom bit. She seemed decent and caring for her son during "Infernal Slumber", I think her issue with Bloo was because she felt Mac was getting too old and needed to move on. I don't think she harbers a personal loathing for IFs or Bloo (Unless he did something isanely BAD to piss her off to high hell and force her to boot him out, but that's another story). I think she just wanted her son to not be picked on. She seems concerned for Mac every time I've seen her with him, just like when she sounded freaked when Mac confessed he was upset at not having any underwear for Christmas. She sounded really concerned he felt so broken. Plus she got him everything he wanted (he even said it), the issue was the Santa thing and that's another case. The point was, she cared enough to buy him everything he wanted and cared that he seemed upset at Christmas. Doesn't sound that harsh or vile of a mom to me. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999

11-18-2006, 01:17 AM	#78
Sparky Undisputed Ruler of Terrencania Am not Slave-O-Matic! Am Johnny Five! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 5,714	I hate to point it out but the truth is that some of us, who think about a parent making her kid basically throw their IF out, might think differently if we were born and raised in the universe Foster's takes place in. If you know what I mean. __________________ Custom Machine Embroidery & More