Goofball John Magee

[Cassini90125]

Originally Posted by montitech

Asking for Frankie episodes I would think is more appropiate for the Frankie thread. am I wrong in thining that?

I'd have to agree with that, but it's not a really big deal.

Originally Posted by montitech

well Anyway, too bad Goofball is Canadian, I was hoping he would run for President.

UP WITH GOOFBALL,

There is a political party for Goofball supporters. It's called the "Witness Protection Program".

[Voxxyn]

I'll talk all I want about Frankie on this thread. All Goofball and the episode did was hurt her and mistreat her repeatedly.

[some guy you dont know]

Originally Posted by montitech

This thread keeps straying to be Frankie Centric instead of about Goofball,

Asking for Frankie episodes I would think is more appropiate for the Frankie thread. am I wrong in thining that?

indeed. makes no sense.

Originally Posted by montitech

well Anyway, too bad Goofball is Canadian, I was hoping he would run for President.

UP WITH GOOFBALL

eh, id have to vote against him, see avatar. but he would get my vote as prime minister. but then again i dont live in canada, so i cant really vote for him.. eh, you get the point. and why exactly is everyone against goofball anyway? sure, he may have done some annoying, mean, cruel, whatever you want to call it, things to frankie. but seriously, it was ONE EPISODE. and besides, everybody needs somebody to annoy them to death. thats how life works.

[Voxxyn]

It wasn't just "one episode", it was a nightmare and a disgrace. It wasn't merely annoying, it was cruel and meanspirited. It left me with a very negative impression that continues inside me to this day. I will NOT be quiet about seeing Frankie be so horribly mistreated and abused.

[Cassini90125]

Originally Posted by some guy you dont know

and why exactly is everyone against goofball anyway? sure, he may have done some annoying, mean, cruel, whatever you want to call it, things to frankie. but seriously, it was ONE EPISODE.

The fact that it was just "one episode" makes no difference. Frankie is someone I care deeply about, and I do not like seeing the people who mean something to me suffer. I will not cavalierly dismiss what happened to her. Goofball hurt her, and that hurt me. Do you like seeing the people you care about in pain? Think about that.

Originally Posted by some guy you dont know

and besides, everybody needs somebody to annoy them to death. thats how life works.

Wrong. Being annoyed is something we can all do quite nicely without, thank you. It isn't fun, it distracts one from getting things done, and it makes life less pleasant. And deliberately going out of one's way to be annoying is not an endearing trait, nor is it cute in any way. It's childish, mean-spirited, and rude.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Originally Posted by Cassini90125

Wrong. Being annoyed is something we can all do quite nicely without, thank you. It isn't fun, it distracts one from getting things done, and it makes life less pleasant. And deliberately going out of one's way to be annoying is not an endearing trait, nor is it cute in any way. It's childish, mean-spirited, and rude.

I agree with you 90% of the way Cass, I do believe that Goofball's actions be it a one shot or a thousand times, it's still a tragedy what Goofball put Frankie through and the fact his episode actually DEFINES suffering in such a way shows he truly was an ass that deserves every bit of slander towards him.

However, the other 10% of me does agree on one thing some guy said: I do believe we need people that annoy us (thought not the death part). I think characters do need episodes where they are put through crazy crap that annoys them to high hell, like I said before with the whole "Rita and Runt" torture episode.

I think it is a necessity but more as a TV show thing and not as real life thing. But, just so were clear, just because I believe in such a statement that does not mean I condone or accept the horrible methods Goofball enacted on Frankie. Annoyance is one thing, but his went beyond the call of duty.

I honestly believe that had this been done differently in regards to the particular torture Goofball put Frankie through, the episode would not be as unwatchable as it is now and it would have been in some small way, more acceptable then inexcusable. But as we all know that isn't the case.

Goofball put Frankie through a meat grinder rather then a mere "hard day" and whether his character was a great gimmick, Frankie didn't need to be repeatively run over by this character idea to the point of total agony.

[Cassini90125]

The latter part of my statement was in fact referring more to real-life pests than what's on TV. Irritating characters can make for better storylines (up to a point, anyway), but they add nothing to real-world happiness.

[Voxxyn]

Frankie already has Bloo, Mr. Herriman, Duchess and Cheese to annoy her. She puts up with more than all of the other characters, arguably combined. Goofball was not only unnecessary, but completely uncalled for.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Well Bloo, Cheese, and occasionally Duchess are everyone's problems. Cheese is too stupid to honestly know what the hell he's doing, saying, or directing it to. Bloo is Bloo and he basically does this to everyone inside and outside of Foster's.

Herriman and Goofball are both more Frankie directed and I agree that Goofball's level of mean spirited careless actions couldn't have been meaner if he honestly tried. He did everything short of yanking out her heart and using it as a door stop.

[Cassini90125]

I always found it particularly insulting that he couldn't even take the time to get her name right. How self-involved and uncaring is that? And people wonder why we hate him?