Goofball John Magee

[Invader Bloo]

IOHASFY airs semi-alot, along the sam elevel as Imposters.
Yeah, the whole kids rule thing is only seen in KND, I mean Fred Fredburger is an adult & he's one of the stars of CN. Plus FMD & SAP are pretty Bloo filled. Yeah, SAP & FMD never air, I'm so sick of it. But they air the crap episodes ALL the times. I just don't get it.

[Jabberwocky]

That doesn't make much sense. I don't understand why Frankie My Dear wouldn't be aired a lot. The Orlando Bloo scene is one of the funniest things ever.

I think someone should tell cartoon network Goofball is not even minutely worthy of a too-hoo-hoo once everybody's seen the episode five hundred times.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

This bothers me almost as much as Goofball in general bothers me. Foster's show is loved by ADULTS too, it's not a sin to be past the age of 15 and love this show you know? I'm 22 and while I am a bit nervous about watching it when my 18 year old brother is around, I still totally love this show.

I think it's stupid adults are being zeroed out just because CN is designed for kids. If they had any brains they'd realize that teens and adults are just as good a market to rank in as any other market. They canned "Teen Titans" and "JL: Unlimited" 2 superb adult/teen aimed shows that were amazingly good.

Foster's appeals to adults and toons and like I said about if they ever had a "get drawn into Foster's" contest, odds are some 9 year old would get in. That's bull $#@! I'm just a big a fan as any other 10 year old and my age shouldn't matter a dam thing. Same with those episodes, why single them out so carelessly?

There are alot better episodes then rewatching "Cuckoo for coco cards" for the billionth time. I had to find "Berry Scary" and "Camp keep a good Mac down" on youtube.com because CN can't find the time to air them.

[billytheskink]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

I think it's stupid adults are being zeroed out just because CN is designed for kids. If they had any brains they'd realize that teens and adults are just as good a market to rank in as any other market.

It's not Cartoon Network you have to convince, it's the companies that advertise on the channel.

Adults are zeroed out because kid-oriented advertisers want to be featured on cartoons that are popular with kids.

It's unfortunate at times, but without those advertisers we don't have any CN in the first place, we don't have any Foster's.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

That doesn't change the fact that zeroing older audience members is a down right crummy and scummy thing to do. Their work is still appreciated, it's their underlined intention that still bugs me.

The way I see it, fans are fans. Doesn't matter who you target, if you really want your show to get noticed and remain popular, I suggest taking care of EVERY fan you get, regardless of age or anything else.

[BabyElephant]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

That doesn't change the fact that zeroing older audience members is a down right crummy and scummy thing to do. Their work is still appreciated, it's their underlined intention that still bugs me.

The way I see it, fans are fans. Doesn't matter who you target, if you really want your show to get noticed and remain popular, I suggest taking care of EVERY fan you get, regardless of age or anything else.

Fans are fans, but the same doesn't apply to advertising dollars. TV networks charge for advertising minutes based on how desirable their perceived demographic is. Kids tend to have a lot of disposable income, and a big say in what their parents buy (cereal, toys, etc.) As a result, advertisers are willing to pay more to air commercials geared toward children. This, of course, makes CN very happy. Of course they want to keep older fans happy too, but they probably feel that we'll keep watching the shows we love regardless. Corporate marketing be a cruel mistress.

[billytheskink]

it's a noble thought, Mr. M.

but it has proven to be a poor marketing strategy, especially in these days of seriously fragmented television ratings. Cable advertisers want the networks to deliver narrow target market segments.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

It may not be the best marketing strategy in the world, but that doesn't change the fact that this show impacts older people like myself just as greatly as it does kids. It can be the down right worst strategy in the world for all I care, still doesn't change the fact that fans matter.

Just because you target a certain age doesn't always mean you will get that age, nor does it mean you won't get people who love the show who are different from the targeted age. I'm not saying change everything for the sake of mature fans in terms of advertising.

All I am saying is I think us older fans should be taken at least somewhat into consideration.

[Howard]

Just an observation. I do believe the animators have the same claim as the animators of the past (i.e. WB toons, MGM, Disney, etc.): "They were/are not made for kids, or adults - they were made for us!" This is regardless of marketing, or fan base.

[BabyElephant]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

It may not be the best marketing strategy in the world, but that doesn't change the fact that this show impacts older people like myself just as greatly as it does kids. It can be the down right worst strategy in the world for all I care, still doesn't change the fact that fans matter.

Just because you target a certain age doesn't always mean you will get that age, nor does it mean you won't get people who love the show who are different from the targeted age. I'm not saying change everything for the sake of mature fans in terms of advertising.

All I am saying is I think us older fans should be taken at least somewhat into consideration.

I couldn't agree more, actually, but unfortunately as we all know, money talks. The only thing I can think of that might even have a chance of changing things would be a massive letter writing campaign. If CN sees their profit margin as being in any way threatened, they might change their tune. Sadly, though, given the realities of modern American business, that's far from a given.