Good Wilt Hunting Movie Discussion 11/23/06

[CCMars]

I finally got to watch this! VERY cute movie! It's not the best in the world, no, but then again no TV movie ever is, so it's pretty close. ;P

I felt the conflict between Wilt and Larry could have gone longer. Not the game itself, but more of the dynamics between the two of them and their creators. Larry was created out of jealousy and the burning desire to win (thus his actions on the court and thus why I don't hate him at all), and seeing what HIS creator looked like made me curious about...well, a lot of things. Floofy and her family annoyed the heck out of me (I do not like cutesy Elmer-Fudd-With-a-Baby-Voice talk, period), so I do think that could have been replaced with something else.

Aww, Eduardo and Nina! Every scene with them interacting made me smile. Loved Coco and her nerds as well. Since she seems to know exactly what to expect from them, I can't help but think she studied them more than they studied her. *laughs*

With his theories on Wilt and his past, Bloo would fit right in with us. XD

The movie definately left some open-ended questions here too (Coco, bent arm vs. missing arm), but I'm actually okay with that. In my view it's a thinking man's show under the guise of a children's comedy, and that's one of the things that makes Fosters as good a show as it is.

[Jabberwocky]

AL CAPONE!

I--

Blah blah blah gosh I really have nothing to say that someone hasn't already said in the past seventeen pages of this thread.

Well, I loved the movie. Fairly Bloo-less , but whatever, it's not his movie. Wilt is adorable. He looks freakishly like a snail with two good eyes though. Maybe that's why the one got killed so easily? Snail eyes aren't that strong, you can poke a stalk out. I'm assuming.

Nina and her compulsive ticket-dispensing was awesome too. Blah blah blah spanglish. The whole Floofy thing could have been done without though. A random interlude of operatic narration by Sherrod Brown would've been better. A clip of Sweating to the Oldies. Anything but the goofiewoofie baby talk.

So basically the whole movie is great except for the stupid teddy bear.

[DoubleLatte]

Originally Posted by pitbulllady

Wilt's "legend" status took place during the movie, as he made his way cross-country on that rusty old lawnmower, NOT during that eight-year-period between him being injured and arriving at Foster's. It was a joke, really, him being considered a "legend" by the people of the small town(where obviously there were no lawnmowers or lawn-care specialists)because he, being Wilt, felt he needed to help out by annonymously cutting the grass for everyone, a good deed that the judge felt needed rewarding by releasing Wilt and dropping the charges against him. His status as a "legend" was in that little town only, and due solely to that one incident. There's nothing in the judge's speech to indicate he'd heard of Wilt except because of that. He even refers to Wilt as "The Lawn Ranger"!

pitbulllady

But see, the thing is, we don't know what happened to Wilt during that 8 year period, and what TheLH suggested is actually a pretty good speculation. I've read the book and I agree. Just as Wilt became "The Lawn Ranger" in that small town, he might have also acquired different names in different places and became an urban legend for his good deeds among the locals during those eight years. He may not be known accross the country as a humanitarian phenomenon, but I'm not inclined to brush off the idea that Wilt might have already gathered a reputation for helping out random folks all over the place, even if they don't know him by name or even interacted with him directly, much like the judge mentioned. Who's to confirm that Wilt only established a reputation after the movie and only in that town? We don't know every single place he's been to or what he's done, but he obviously has had deep-seated feelings for years to want to help as many people as possible in a self-less manner to compensate for his "failure". I would NOT put it past Wilt to have actually spent those years moving from place to place, lending a hand and impressing several people for whom altruism is an alien concept, and eventually finding Foster's.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

I'm late giving my 2 cents on this thing and those who visited the "way off topic" forum section will know why. But anyways, I just got done watching the timer recorded Foster's movie and while a scratched the surface of the ass load of posts to this thread, I didn't really have the energy to go through all of em.

Anyways I gave this movie an A, although an A- would be more accurate but regardless, this was a fantastic and very likeable movie. It had MINOR and I mean MINOR problems outside of an overall wonderful first venture into films for the Foster's gang. There were so many well thought out things used here.

Wilt actually taking the initiative and guts to leave Foster's in order to settle things with Fowl Larry, while at the same time still being "Wilt", was an excellent touch. I thought it was great Wilt remained in character while at the same time showing growth and evolution in his personality as he continued his journey.

The lawnmower idea was great in the beginning, I didn't see that coming. The Foster's gang got an equal amount of air time which I LOVED, no offense to Wilt fans, but I think the movie would have sucked if it was JUST Wilt all the time and had no one else to play off of.

I was so estactic to see Frankie getting a long awaited air time increase, as I said before, the geeks drooling over her was a hilarious idea. I totally felt that was a poke at me and the other Frankie fans on the board (I could be wrong but hey, it was a gag I loved nonetheless). Eduardo and Nina stole the show.

It was really interesting to see how Eduardo was created and how he ended up switching roles with Nina in terms of scary person to scared person etc. The fact a cop created such a scary looking yet pillowy IF who acts like a kitten to Nina's baby jibberish and cat purrs was just adorable.

Also, Wilt actually admitting to not only wanting to stay at Foster's for his friends sake but to help out future kids was a very moving idea. It shows Wilt is thinking about more then himself and Jordan and that he wants to help everyone, even if it slows his own goals down (like all those jobs he did).

Now for the "Negative" which is why I wanted an A- instead of a straight up A. Wilt and Eduardo both got pretty detailed character creator looks into their lives, yet were represented with only the people who FOUND Coco, not who made her. It just seemed out of context to leave Coco out this way.

To me, it would have made more sense to reveal Coco's creator in this same movie since they went to the trouble of doing Wilt and Eduardo's in the same one. Second, the Judge with the whole "lawnmower legend" crap was kinda stupid. It just seemed like too far'fetchd to swallow to be funny to me.

Like your pushing the ignorance is bliss joke here with a cartoon. Thirdly, while I understand how Wilt lost his arm, I found the basketball crushing his eye to be weak....literally. It just seemed rather flimsy that something as mundane and hardly that heavy could crush Wilt's eye permanently like that.

This also brings up my confusion as to where those stitches came up on his "whiskers" or cheeks if you will. Unless he scraped his face on the fall (which they didn't really show), I still don't know how they got there. Finally, my last complaint comes with the rapid conclusion of Fowl Ball Larry.

While i loved seeing another new IF villain like Little Lincoln and the SpaceNut Boogies (not to mention being voiced by the very talented Kevin Michael Richardson), I thought his reformation was WAYYY to freaking soon. He was bad for 30 years and then suddenly becomes good after one single game?

It seemed way too Disney that he would suddenly become good and be all right with coming to Foster's after taking so much glee, and joy in knowing he destroyed Wilt's creator relationship and mashed up his body like a pretzel. Unless they plan on using him later on, there didn't seem to be a point to it.

Overrall, I was more satisfied with this then the very annoyingly concocted and hollowly hyped "Make believe it or not". I thought this was while not as well rounded and a great a story teller as "House of Bloo's". There was so much to enjoy here, and such a great balance between all the characters.

Its finally nice to see Wilt and Eduardo's backgrounds and to see how much the Fosters gang needs Wilt and vice versa. And aside from those occasional irks that I said before, I really enjoyed this movie and eagerly look forward to hopefully many more future Foster films.

[pitbulllady]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

I'm late giving my 2 cents on this thing and those who visited the "way off topic" forum section will know why. But anyways, I just got done watching the timer recorded Foster's movie and while a scratched the surface of the ass load of posts to this thread, I didn't really have the energy to go through all of em.

Anyways I gave this movie an A, although an A- would be more accurate but regardless, this was a fantastic and very likeable movie. It had MINOR and I mean MINOR problems outside of an overall wonderful first venture into films for the Foster's gang. There were so many well thought out things used here.

Wilt actually taking the initiative and guts to leave Foster's in order to settle things with Fowl Larry, while at the same time still being "Wilt", was an excellent touch. I thought it was great Wilt remained in character while at the same time showing growth and evolution in his personality as he continued his journey.

The lawnmower idea was great in the beginning, I didn't see that coming. The Foster's gang got an equal amount of air time which I LOVED, no offense to Wilt fans, but I think the movie would have sucked if it was JUST Wilt all the time and had no one else to play off of.

I was so estactic to see Frankie getting a long awaited air time increase, as I said before, the geeks drooling over her was a hilarious idea. I totally felt that was a poke at me and the other Frankie fans on the board (I could be wrong but hey, it was a gag I loved nonetheless). Eduardo and Nina stole the show.

It was really interesting to see how Eduardo was created and how he ended up switching roles with Nina in terms of scary person to scared person etc. The fact a cop created such a scary looking yet pillowy IF who acts like a kitten to Nina's baby jibberish and cat purrs was just adorable.

Also, Wilt actually admitting to not only wanting to stay at Foster's for his friends sake but to help out future kids was a very moving idea. It shows Wilt is thinking about more then himself and Jordan and that he wants to help everyone, even if it slows his own goals down (like all those jobs he did).

Now for the "Negative" which is why I wanted an A- instead of a straight up A. Wilt and Eduardo both got pretty detailed character creator looks into their lives, yet were represented with only the people who FOUND Coco, not who made her. It just seemed out of context to leave Coco out this way.

To me, it would have made more sense to reveal Coco's creator in this same movie since they went to the trouble of doing Wilt and Eduardo's in the same one. Second, the Judge with the whole "lawnmower legend" crap was kinda stupid. It just seemed like too far'fetchd to swallow to be funny to me.

Like your pushing the ignorance is bliss joke here with a cartoon. Thirdly, while I understand how Wilt lost his arm, I found the basketball crushing his eye to be weak....literally. It just seemed rather flimsy that something as mundane and hardly that heavy could crush Wilt's eye permanently like that.

This also brings up my confusion as to where those stitches came up on his "whiskers" or cheeks if you will. Unless he scraped his face on the fall (which they didn't really show), I still don't know how they got there. Finally, my last complaint comes with the rapid conclusion of Fowl Ball Larry.

While i loved seeing another new IF villain like Little Lincoln and the SpaceNut Boogies (not to mention being voiced by the very talented Kevin Michael Richardson), I thought his reformation was WAYYY to freaking soon. He was bad for 30 years and then suddenly becomes good after one single game?

It seemed way too Disney that he would suddenly become good and be all right with coming to Foster's after taking so much glee, and joy in knowing he destroyed Wilt's creator relationship and mashed up his body like a pretzel. Unless they plan on using him later on, there didn't seem to be a point to it.

Overrall, I was more satisfied with this then the very annoyingly concocted and hollowly hyped "Make believe it or not". I thought this was while not as well rounded and a great a story teller as "House of Bloo's". There was so much to enjoy here, and such a great balance between all the characters.

Its finally nice to see Wilt and Eduardo's backgrounds and to see how much the Fosters gang needs Wilt and vice versa. And aside from those occasional irks that I said before, I really enjoyed this movie and eagerly look forward to hopefully many more future Foster films.

Gotta agree with you on pretty much everything there. I guess that the reason we have not learned more in the movie about Coco's creator is that Craig has actually told us, in great detail, on his blog about who created her, so it's really no mystery to those who have actually read it, although we still don't know what happened to that little girl. Perhaps this is Craig's way of letting us know that Coco's creator is deceased, without actually bringing up the topic of her death on the show. And, it's also possible that a movie/special about Coco is in the works, and they just don't want to give away too much, too soon.

I'm also bothered by the whole deal with the eye. While a basketball falling from a great height COULD have injured the eye and eye stalk, it would not seem to be a permament thing, nor would it account for why the eye now seems to be fake and plastic-y and is much smaller, Injuriess create swelling, initially. Again, since eye injuries can be very nasty to look at, though, I guess that they had to go with a more cartoonish approach to avoid the gross-out factor. As for the stitches appearing on Wilt's cheek, if you look closely, they are not there when he's lying injured on the court, thinking of Jordan. Then, they appear when you see him peering around the corner of a building at Jordan through the rain, and when you see him leave, they're gone again. We've pretty much chalked that up to an animation mistake, like the deal with Eduardo's here-again/gone-again pants in "The Big Cheese", or Mr. Herriman's monocle switching sides of his face in more than one episode, or Blake Superior's face being gray(as opposed to the usual striped tiger face)and looking like one of the "Berenstein Bears" of the popular children's books for a brief moment in "Hiccy Burp".

There are actually several probably spoofs of fans in this movie, besides the two nerds drooling over Frankie. I'm sure that Bloo's out-there theories as to who created Wilt, along with him assuming that Wilt was a bad guy and had returned to his "life of crime", are a good-natured dig at those of us, myself included, who've had some really out-there theories ourselves as to Wilt's past!

pitbulllady

pi

[InsaneFan]

Hah, yes, I figured Bloo's crazy ideas were some sorta joke directed at us fans. Not just 'us' meaning Never Forgotten, but like, ALL of us fans...Wilt fans anyways... Will stop repeating people now.

[swarlock]

Originally Posted by Fomalhaut

Okay I might be stupid, but how is Wilt so cheerful after having lived with all that guilt for 30 years?

Because he never gives up hope or on life either.

It doesn't take that much to be mean or nasty in this life. But hope is there when you really want it.

[McGee's Jabberwock]

Aw, geez, what can I say that hasn't been said earlier in this topic? It was a good film, great character development for Wilt, allowing us to see more sides of him we don't see in the show. The relationship between Eduardo and Nina was cute, and Douglas and Adam were humourous. But, for some reason, it wasn't as poignant as I had hoped. Don't know why.

BTW, wasn't Looney Tunes Back in Acton called 'The Anti-Space Jam?'

[Invader Bloo]

No, it wasn't. It was just called "Back in Action".
Space Jam was a LT movie released in the mid-90's.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

"Back in action" was designed as a sort of "insult" to Space Jam. For some reason which to this day I cannot for the life of me understand, Space Jam was slammed by Looney fans because they said it did a crappy job representing the Toon characters and made them act differently and out of character.

Back in action was more hardlined into improving on Space Jam's mistakes by making the actors more interactive with the toons, which Michael Jordan did very LITTLE of. The problem was Back in action was similar to a fart in the wind in theaters, it came and went with very few people noticing it sadly.

I actually enjoyed both films equally. I don't really know how Space Jam worked into this movie aside from the whole basketball fight finish thing, even tho Space Jam did do it alot better. But again I loved this movie, the only thing that bothered me was how quick Fowl Larry just turned good and was all "sorry".

Holding a grudge for 30 years and waiting his whole life for a rematch with Wilt seems like a villainious thing to do, not something you brush off your shoulder and act like everything peachy keen again. I also agree with Pitbull, I find the fact that Wilt's eye was so fragile to be kind of cheap and tacky.

Unless that basketball was loaded with bricks, his eye shouldn't have been totally crushed and squeezed out like that for the rest of his life.