Berry

[Ub3rD4n]

I think Berry is a pretty good match for Bloo, comparitively. I mean, she knew JUST what would get Bloo's attention, she's single-minded as he is, and she's manipulative like him, too. Shame for her that Bloo is simply not interested in a romantic relationship, being a five-year-old boy.

[pitbulllady]

Originally Posted by Ub3rD4n

I think Berry is a pretty good match for Bloo, comparitively. I mean, she knew JUST what would get Bloo's attention, she's single-minded as he is, and she's manipulative like him, too. Shame for her that Bloo is simply not interested in a romantic relationship, being a five-year-old boy.

I wouldn't WANT Bloo, arrogant and self-centered as he can be, to be involved in a romance with someone who makes Hannibal Lector look sane! Berry is utterly psychotic AND very clever and creative, which makes her a threat on the same par as Buddy Pine/Syndrome from The Incredibles, more so, if you take size into consideration. For her to pull off what she did, just to entrap Mac and kill him, and win Bloo's loyalty, with her being only two feet tall, is nothing short of amazing, in a really frightening way.

pitbulllady

[One Radical Dude]

Originally Posted by pitbulllady

I wouldn't WANT Bloo, arrogant and self-centered as he can be, to be involved in a romance with someone who makes Hannibal Lector look sane! Berry is utterly psychotic AND very clever and creative, which makes her a threat on the same par as Buddy Pine/Syndrome from The Incredibles, more so, if you take size into consideration. For her to pull off what she did, just to entrap Mac and kill him, and win Bloo's loyalty, with her being only two feet tall, is nothing short of amazing, in a really frightening way.

pitbulllady

Agreed. After watching Thursday's episode, I have even less sympathy for Berry. To me, Berry was more interested in separating Bloo and Mac, more than she "loves" Bloo. In my opinion, Berry and Bloo would NOT make a great pair.

[The Huntsman]

Originally Posted by One Radical Dude

Agreed. After watching Thursday's episode, I have even less sympathy for Berry. To me, Berry was more interested in separating Bloo and Mac, more than she "loves" Bloo. In my opinion, Berry and Bloo would NOT make a great pair.

I understand where you’re coming from, and you’re fully entitled to believe what you want. However, I implore you to take the time to consider the circumstances. Berry was truly in love with Bloo, and despite all that she had done for him, he didn’t even remember her name. When she first discovered that Bloo cared more about Mac, she perceived Mac as a threat, which caused her to go down the path that she is currently on. I’m not trying to justify what Berry did, as attempted murder is a horrible thing, but I believe Berry truly loved Bloo, and in her warped and twisted mind, she did what she felt she had to do. She wouldn’t have built a shrine for Bloo if she didn’t still love him, and even though revenge against Mac had a lot to do with her plan in this recent episode, it cannot be denied that she still longed for Bloo’s affection. Berry may be a sadistic individual, but in the end, she just wanted Bloo to love her; she was over-zealous, in that she wanted Bloo “all to herself”, but she still loved him. It was an obsessive love, but it’s love none-the-less.

You can sympathize with people and still completely disagree with them. I just ask for people to consider the circumstances and walk a mile in her shoes. She was created; she wasn’t born, and she didn’t have the luxury of defining her own existence. She likely had her mental problems since she was created and even though what she did was horrible, deceitful and wrong, she was doing what she felt that she had to do. After all, one cannot be responsible for the way that they were created.

[Cassini90125]

I doubt she knows what love is. Even if she does, it seems to me that her "love" for Bloo is not as strong as her hatred of Mac.

[The Huntsman]

Originally Posted by Cassini90125

I doubt she knows what love is. Even if she does, it seems to me that her "love" for Bloo is not as strong as her hatred of Mac.

That could be true, but I wish people wouldn’t look at this in shades of black-and-white. So many people have praised Foster’s for the level of depth that each character has, so why are people so eager to dismiss Berry as “nothing but evil”? Each character has their own set of merits and flaws; Berry may have more flaws than merits, but she still is an Imaginary Friend. She’s abandoned; she’s alone in the world and she doesn’t have an owner to help her out, or to set her on the right path. Granted, she might not listen to her owner even if she had one, but you still have to take such things into consideration.

[Cassini90125]

She has my sympathy on that, if such is the case. I think she's characterized as "nothing but evil" because that's her role in the episodes she's been in. She's psychotic, I'm sure, but I don't believe that psychotic and evil are the same think. Nor are they entirely separate things, either. We can only judge her by what we see; we can speculate about her past, and ponder the subject of nature vs. nurture all we want, and perhaps try to make sense of her actions, but in the end we don't know what the circumstances of her creation were, or what happened between then and her arrival at Foster's. Without that knowledge, it's hard to judge her based on anything other than what we see on TV, and what we see isn't pretty, although it is funny.

[The Huntsman]

Yeah, I think that’s something we can all agree on. Regardless of what we think about Berry, or whether we sympathize with her or not, she is one of the better villains in Foster’s and her psychotic nature permits some great scenes to take place.

[The Huntsman]

Looking back at her recent episode, it’s still impressive how she managed to do everything that she did. She managed to physically force the family into the closet, and tie them up, and then she managed to gain access to their resources and hire a chauffeur. It’s obvious that the chauffeur didn’t work for the family, as he would have known that Barry Bling wasn’t the resident of the home. She then managed to live in the home for weeks, while keeping the family imprisoned, and she masqueraded as a spoiled rich kid who had the credentials to be real. She even planned ahead and had several different Barry Bling costumes, and she had time to build a huge shrine to Bloo so that she could idolize him in his absence. When all was said and done, she managed to spend weeks with Bloo, and she successfully drove a wedge between Mac and Bloo without really lifting a finger, except for the final day. Add to that the fact that she tried to kill Mac and you have one hell of a lot of scheming.

It’s as pitbulllady said; “Berry is utterly psychotic AND very clever and creative, which makes her a threat on the same par as Buddy Pine/Syndrome from The Incredibles, more so, if you take size into consideration. For her to pull off what she did, just to entrap Mac and kill him, and win Bloo's loyalty, with her being only two feet tall, is nothing short of amazing, in a really frightening way”.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Originally Posted by The Huntsman

She then managed to live in the home for weeks, while keeping the family imprisoned, and she masqueraded as a spoiled rich kid who had the credentials to be real. She even planned ahead and had several different Barry Bling costumes, and she had time to build a huge shrine to Bloo so that she could idolize him in his absence. When all was said and done, she managed to spend weeks with Bloo, and she successfully drove a wedge between Mac and Bloo without really lifting a finger, except for the final day. Add to that the fact that she tried to kill Mac and you have one hell of a lot of scheming.

This is a very good point and this is a the very SAME reason why I believe Berry is a evil, crazy, demented little imaginary friend. I honestly can't see how any faith or weight can be put into hypothetical origin stories saying she was abused or anything like that because it's too open for anything to happen.

I could say she's from an alternate dimension from the planet Krypton and she traveled to her in a meteor with her little suitcase. Unless it's stated or given any kind of indication, it's anyone's guess, anyone's game, and full of too many holes to be durable. I don't sympathize for Berry because her situation is nothing new.

EVERY imaginary friend was abandoned (more or less) and you don't see them going ape crazy and trying to kill people. I also believe Berry is evil AND psychotic and here's why: Like the Huntsman said, everything Berry did for this new episode required MASS amounts of concentration and planning.

Someone who is totally off their rocker couldn't possibly create such an elaborate plan of revenge, and that's the keyword here: revenge. Berry was intentionally trying to KILL Mac, she wanted him to suffer and she wanted to get rid of him for good. She went beyond the call of duty just to get back at him.

For someone to take that much thought and hard work just to get back at one little boy for a "boyfriend" who can't even remember her own name, that's CRAZY and EVIL. Berry kidnapped people, attempted to kill Mac, mocked him, and stole a house and all it's riches to satisfy her own personal needs.

She's a true head case and a TRUE villain, the stuff she pulled in that episode is not a mean spirited prank or your typical kind of behavior for a character in a show like this, Berry was TRULY psychotic and menacing. Feel sorry for her all you want, but I can't for the life of me understand how anyone can sympathize someone who went through so much trouble to kill one 8 year old little boy.