Never Forgotten: a Foster's Home Community  

Go Back   Never Forgotten: a Foster's Home Community > Characters > General Character Discussions

Notices

General Character Discussions Discussions about the characters in *general*, or groups of characters, belong here. Please place discussions about *single* specific characters in their appropriate category.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-30-2006, 10:42 AM   #11
Kzinistzerg
Foster's Legend
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 803
Default

No, I didn't believe in them like they were realy, they were just kindof there for my convienence.
Kzinistzerg is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2006, 11:36 PM   #12
scary_dream
Ol' Grandpa Trout
 
scary_dream's Avatar
Now in radio-flavored.  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Jefferton
Posts: 680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kzinistzerg View Post
No, I didn't believe in them like they were realy, they were just kindof there for my convienence.
Yeah I didn't expect other people to see my imaginary friend and I actually didn't tell anyone about him for soooo long! I knew he wasn't really there, but it was nice to have a vivid enough imagination to be able to talk to him like I did.
__________________
Ultra-Intergalactic-Cybot G, Marina Liteyears. Her knife kick will punish you!
scary_dream is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2006, 11:26 AM   #13
koosie
Moon-Calf
 
koosie's Avatar
It was just imagination  
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern Britain
Posts: 695
Default

I think PitBulllady about covered all the angles but I'd like to look more deeply at the first one.

One of the reasons humans have come so far is their ability to form complex social groups together (super-organisms) and it stands to reason the mechanics of this are biologically written in our brains like organic computer programmes. A young human brain needs to develop these programmes, explore their capabilities and find their boundarys. In the absence of other human brain to practise with, perhaps human minds make test models - not independent but not under conscious control neither. This is certainly within the brain's capabilitys given that Soviet scientists discovered that a single brain physically seperated creates two personalities and all kinds of physical and psycological conditions cause the generation of independent voices in the sufferers head. Is it possible that early interaction with one's imagination can actually prevent such conditions by accessing the internal levers that control personality?

You must forgive me. I love speculating on this stuff. On a lighter note, Bloo compensates for Mac's good hearted, modest and considerate nature as he is totally egocentric. He is Mac's confidence and drive and thus they always prevail together but never alone.
__________________


Aw....Snicket
koosie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 02:47 AM   #14
DoubleLatte
At Home
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 148
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by koosie View Post
I think PitBulllady about covered all the angles but I'd like to look more deeply at the first one.

One of the reasons humans have come so far is their ability to form complex social groups together (super-organisms) and it stands to reason the mechanics of this are biologically written in our brains like organic computer programmes. A young human brain needs to develop these programmes, explore their capabilities and find their boundarys. In the absence of other human brain to practise with, perhaps human minds make test models - not independent but not under conscious control neither. This is certainly within the brain's capabilitys given that Soviet scientists discovered that a single brain physically seperated creates two personalities and all kinds of physical and psycological conditions cause the generation of independent voices in the sufferers head. Is it possible that early interaction with one's imagination can actually prevent such conditions by accessing the internal levers that control personality?

You must forgive me. I love speculating on this stuff. On a lighter note, Bloo compensates for Mac's good hearted, modest and considerate nature as he is totally egocentric. He is Mac's confidence and drive and thus they always prevail together but never alone.
That was all very fun to read, specially at 2 am. :p No, I agree with you.

On you last paragraph though, I think it's Bloo that compensates for Mac's own shortcomings, or what he wished he had more of personality-wise. Mac can be social, friendly, and a leader, but he still possesses a rather introverted personality, and that's where Bloo comes in. I don't always believe IFs are created because children feel frightened, unprotected, or lonely. Some of these IFs are probably culminations of what a kid lacked and wished he/she expressed more of in his/her personality. Bloo is loud, abrasive, manipulative, and boastful; hardly our definition of "shy". At the other end of the scale, we have Mac, who is self-less, a bit of a pushover, and simple. He's everything that Bloo is not.

Last edited by DoubleLatte; 09-02-2006 at 02:56 AM.
DoubleLatte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 05:51 AM   #15
pitbulllady
Co-Administrator
 
pitbulllady's Avatar
 
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 2,276
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleLatte View Post
That was all very fun to read, specially at 2 am. :p No, I agree with you.

On you last paragraph though, I think it's Bloo that compensates for Mac's own shortcomings, or what he wished he had more of personality-wise. Mac can be social, friendly, and a leader, but he still possesses a rather introverted personality, and that's where Bloo comes in. I don't always believe IFs are created because children feel frightened, unprotected, or lonely. Some of these IFs are probably culminations of what a kid lacked and wished he/she expressed more of in his/her personality. Bloo is loud, abrasive, manipulative, and boastful; hardly our definition of "shy". At the other end of the scale, we have Mac, who is self-less, a bit of a pushover, and simple. He's everything that Bloo is not.


That is PRECISELY why I would not be so sure that Wilt's creator was someone who was really into basketball. He/she could have been someone like me, with no athletic ability whatsoever, but a secret desire to be an athlete or to "shine" at SOMETHING. Wilt could have very well been the living manifestation of that secret wish. I've theorized that he was created to be a surrogate father, and many guys ARE into sports, so perhaps the kid figured that if he/she was gonna make up an Imaginary dad, he might as well be into some sort of sport, too, in order to be more like other kids' real fathers. Maybe Wilt was intended to replace a real dad who was a big basketball fan, or actually had played basketball, though the kid did not actually have much interest in it.

pitbulllady
pitbulllady is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 02:32 PM   #16
ch3353-h4xx0rrrr
Permanent Resident
And it's Goo!  
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: East of Topeka.
Posts: 328
Default

On that note, PBL, I don't think the kid really *intended* to have Wilt be a father figure in his/her original intentions for his/her imaginary friend. Missing a father and having no close friends might be a motive, and perhaps an older brother/sister with mad basketball talent as well would spur a thought-in-mind of a basketball star who would actually CARE about him/her.

So, of course, nature stepped in and gave Wilt father-like qualities.
__________________
ch3353-h4xx0rrrr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2006, 03:29 PM   #17
DoubleLatte
At Home
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: AZ, USA
Posts: 148
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ch3353-h4xx0rrrr View Post
On that note, PBL, I don't think the kid really *intended* to have Wilt be a father figure in his/her original intentions for his/her imaginary friend. Missing a father and having no close friends might be a motive, and perhaps an older brother/sister with mad basketball talent as well would spur a thought-in-mind of a basketball star who would actually CARE about him/her.
I'm inclined on throwing out the basketball fad theory out the window at this point. :p I get a bit tired of it being too obvious, and I'll be more than a little irked if the creator turns out to be a raging sports fan (shock!) and is male, of all things. Not that it's completely unavoidable, but I'll keep my hopes up.

Missing a father and having no close friends constitute as "loneliness" or feeling unprotected. That's a reason that I was also trying to steer clear from as to why a kid would feel the need to create an IF. They're all perfect reasons, but also a little too obvious. :3

Quote:
So, of course, nature stepped in and gave Wilt father-like qualities.
But what do you think "nature" is? That Wilt's personality traits were something the kid subconsciously created and wanted to have in a father figure? Those traits couldn't have appeared on their own and with nothing to trigger them. Two theories I've seen sticking out constantly (one from PBL) are that Wilt was either created with this malleable, sweet, apologetic personality, or he developed it on his own through the years and bad experiences. The latter (a string of bad experiences) would help explain why he represses most of his emotions, particularly anger.
DoubleLatte is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2006, 03:32 PM   #18
OpenYourMind
Newly Abandoned
Open it... Devil bless it!  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Sofia, Bulgaria
Posts: 14
Default

I suppose a kid is in a need of an imaginary friend and imagines it when he/she requires more diversity of personality. I mean like his/her imaginary friend is not dull but interesting and sometimes quite opposite of the creator. Therefore, the child is able to attain individuality by slowly distingushing him/herself from his friend. Also it makes them more sociable.
__________________
New, what do you own the world?
How do you own disorder, disorder,
Now, somewhere between the sacred silence,
Sacred silence and sleep,
Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep,
Disorder, disorder, disorder
OpenYourMind is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-11-2006, 04:46 PM   #19
GrimTheLost
Insomniac
 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: In the middle of Rabbittown, Ga
Posts: 514
Send a message via AIM to GrimTheLost
Default

When I was younger, I constantly made "friends" who had done things that my parents were discussing just for the reason I wanted to seem more adult and wanted to fit in with my family better (the closest sibling in age I had was 10 years older than me). I also gave my stuffed animals personalities, because I didn't have many friends (this lasted until I was either 14 or 16. I am now 18) That is my reasoning from personal experiences.
__________________
<a href="http://www.us.playstation.com/PSN/Users/grimthelost"><img src="http://pid.us.playstation.com//user/grimthelost.jpg" width="235" height="149" border="0" /></a>
GrimTheLost is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:06 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.