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Old 10-30-2007, 01:42 PM   #11
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Well, these idiosycrancies in the world of Foster's do make it more interesting and I just think it's our curiosity that causes us to think about these sorts of things, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Still, it's definately something to think about.
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Old 11-02-2007, 09:47 AM   #12
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Maybe there might be imaginary schools and human schools.
Surely that would count as segregation.

I can think of two instances within the show in which IFs have been adopted by adults for their own purposes, both of which had negative outcomes. The first, of course, was Kip Snip's adoption of Bloo in "the Sweet Stench of Success" (Kip had tricked Bloo into signing the adoption papers; nonetheless, his initial offer was to adopt Bloo). The second occurs in "Emancipation Complication", when Mac's principal purchases Wilt, with apparently little more intention than to use him as a flag pole (and was presumably one of many adults who took advantage of the opportunity for inexpensive labour). In Kip's case I guess the legality of it is highly questionable, and given that the latter example occurred during Lil Lincoln's extremely shady reign it's by no means representative of standard Foster's protocol. Either way, I would hope that they're not totally opposed to the concept of childless adults adopting IFs, because I'm sure that there are many responsible adults out there who lead lonely existences and could certainly use the companionship of an imaginary friend - why would they have any less right to one than a lonely child? That said, the fact that most kids are persuaded to give up their IFs when they reach a certain age strongly implies that having an IF companion is widely regarded as a "kid's thing", to be put away with the Barbies and the G.I. Joes. I can see a couple who chose to adopt an IF and raise it as a child facing a whole load of social stigma. Anyone seen AI: Artificial Intelligence? I haven't since it first came out, but from what I remember the troubles faced by the robots in that movie might not be terribly different to what an IF might face if used as an alternative to a real child. I don't know, maybe it's not such a good example.

Naturally, I agree that we're never likely to receive answers to these questions, but it's still fun to think about them.
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:34 AM   #13
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Surely that would count as segregation.

I can think of two instances within the show in which IFs have been adopted by adults for their own purposes, both of which had negative outcomes. The first, of course, was Kip Snip's adoption of Bloo in "the Sweet Stench of Success" (Kip had tricked Bloo into signing the adoption papers; nonetheless, his initial offer was to adopt Bloo). The second occurs in "Emancipation Complication", when Mac's principal purchases Wilt, with apparently little more intention than to use him as a flag pole (and was presumably one of many adults who took advantage of the opportunity for inexpensive labour). In Kip's case I guess the legality of it is highly questionable, and given that the latter example occurred during Lil Lincoln's extremely shady reign it's by no means representative of standard Foster's protocol. Either way, I would hope that they're not totally opposed to the concept of childless adults adopting IFs, because I'm sure that there are many responsible adults out there who lead lonely existences and could certainly use the companionship of an imaginary friend - why would they have any less right to one than a lonely child? That said, the fact that most kids are persuaded to give up their IFs when they reach a certain age strongly implies that having an IF companion is widely regarded as a "kid's thing", to be put away with the Barbies and the G.I. Joes. I can see a couple who chose to adopt an IF and raise it as a child facing a whole load of social stigma. Anyone seen AI: Artificial Intelligence? I haven't since it first came out, but from what I remember the troubles faced by the robots in that movie might not be terribly different to what an IF might face if used as an alternative to a real child. I don't know, maybe it's not such a good example.

Naturally, I agree that we're never likely to receive answers to these questions, but it's still fun to think about them.
Some really good points there, though I do not regard either Kip Snip's trickery in "Sweet Stench of Success" or the actions of Lil' Lincoln in "Emancipation Complication" as "adoptions". Kip tricked Bloo into signing what Bloo thought was a business contract, then told him it was adoption papers, but in every case where a legitimate adoption was carried out at Foster's, it was in the presence of either Mr. Herriman or Frankie, and frequently, both, and they, too, had to sign papers. In the case of Lil' Lincoln, he clearly SOLD the Imaginary Friends for a profit to anyone who was willing to pay, without regard as to who was buying them or for what purpose.

There certainly is a case to be made for adults adopting IF's as friends or surrogate family members, or live-in care-takers. That would certainly apply especially to older people, who might not have any living relatives and who are lonely and just need someone around to help them out. Such a person would need a friend just as much as would a lonely child. You've made a good point, though, that apparently, there is still a stigma against a person still having an Imaginary Friend, whether or not that person created the IF in question. Yes, some adults still have theirs; Madame Foster and the guy at the bowling alley come to mind, and Jordan Michaels certainly had no qualms against HIS Imaginary Friend residing with him as family, either. In a way, had Wilt decided to go live with his creator, and had the two of them mutually agreed to go public, it would have done a lot to remove some of that stigma against adults having Imaginary Friends, since if a guy of Jordan's status, both in terms of celebrity and financial situation, can publically admit to having an Imaginary Friend, it must be a cool thing. I can see how Wilt would not wish for his relationship to a celebrity to be known, though, since that would cause many people to try and adopt him for that reason alone, like owning a car once driven by a movie star or something, and most of those people would probably not be very compatable.

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Old 11-04-2007, 10:41 PM   #14
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Who knows, maybe there's a whole group of people who view imaginary friends as status symbols more than anything else. This could lead to places like Foster's intervening and removing imaginary friends who aren't recieving proper treatment. That leads to another point. Does Foster's as an agency have any real authority when it comes to Imaginary Friends?

We know that they rescued food based Imaginary Friends from a fat camp. How would Madam Foster, Frankie or Herrimen go about removing an IF from a neglectful situation? Could they just swoop in and remove the friend, like a rescue mission? Or would they have to go some type of legal channels?

For that matter, is there some kind of government agency that regulates imaginary friends and their treatment? We've seen that when a child becomes too old for their friend, it's not uncommon to just drop them onto the street. Heck, in Good Wilt Hunting it appeared the basketball IFs actually lived in the alley.

I wonder how well IFs could survive on the streets or even in the wild. We've seen that Coco lived by herself, comfortably on a desserted island for presumably years. But then Coco had a natural advantage with her eggs. Who knows, some abandoned friends might even go feral, the way pet cats and dogs can, when they're abandoned.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:18 AM   #15
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Who knows, maybe there's a whole group of people who view imaginary friends as status symbols more than anything else. This could lead to places like Foster's intervening and removing imaginary friends who aren't recieving proper treatment. That leads to another point. Does Foster's as an agency have any real authority when it comes to Imaginary Friends?

We know that they rescued food based Imaginary Friends from a fat camp. How would Madam Foster, Frankie or Herrimen go about removing an IF from a neglectful situation? Could they just swoop in and remove the friend, like a rescue mission? Or would they have to go some type of legal channels?

For that matter, is there some kind of government agency that regulates imaginary friends and their treatment? We've seen that when a child becomes too old for their friend, it's not uncommon to just drop them onto the street. Heck, in Good Wilt Hunting it appeared the basketball IFs actually lived in the alley.

I wonder how well IFs could survive on the streets or even in the wild. We've seen that Coco lived by herself, comfortably on a desserted island for presumably years. But then Coco had a natural advantage with her eggs. Who knows, some abandoned friends might even go feral, the way pet cats and dogs can, when they're abandoned.
The status of Imaginary Friends, along with their rights, is something that is definately left up in the air in the series. We do not know if there's any government agency that oversees the welfare of Imaginary Friends, and to which adoption agencies like Foster's(which appears to be the only one of its kind)must answer, as there is in the case of human children who are neglected, abandoned, abused or put in potentially dangerous situations. At times, the public perception towards them on the show contradicts itself. It's legal, apparently, to abandon an Imaginary Friend, but you can't murder one or harm one physically, since Mac pointed out to Coco that the group would go to jail if they killed Peanut Butter. They can apparently hold at least menial jobs, but they are rquired to obey the same laws as everyone else, and rather than having the Imaginary Friend's family or creator held responsible when an IF breaks a law(as is usually the case when a child breaks the law or an domesticated animal does something bad), the IF himself is held fully acountable, so it would seem that they are regarded more or less as adult humans, albeit a lower class of humans, somewhat like minorities were(and in some cases, still are)were regarded in the past. It's illegal to abandon an animal or a young child because the law recognizes that most cannot survive or at least have any quality of life without adult human care, but it seems that since IF's are regarded more as adult humans, it's assumed that they can take care of themselves. No one seems to question the idea of an Imaginary Friend on his/her own, without a human child or family, or treat them any different than they would an adult human. We see this also in Good Wilt Hunting, when no one even asked Wilt why he was traveling alone or treated him in any way that would make it seem that he was regarded as inferior to them, as a person. A child, or even a dog, wandering about unsupervised would have drawn some suspicion or at least comments.

I'd noticed all those apparently-homeless Imaginary Friends that populated the alleys in GWH, too, but then, this is a part of town where there are also a lot of homeless humans and where crime is rampant, so I guess that the situations which befall many humans living there would naturally befall IF's. I don't know, therefore, if the term "feral" would apply, since the IF's do not seem to become afraid of humans or avoid them as feral cats and dogs do, but since even humans living under those conditions on the streets of a large city must live by the "survival of the fittest" code, from day to day, I guess the IF's would, too. Some, like Wilt, are fortunate enough to find their way out of that and integrate themselves back into society, while others have to tough it out.

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Most likely not. The relationship would be an imaginary son or daughter and wouldn't be legally binding.
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