The Batman

[emperor26]

Anyone here watch this show that supposedly has a different take of the Dark Knight?

To be honest, I really enjoy this show, and in spite of the character's change in appearance, they remained the same with their personality. Plus, I really like the fact the show improved over time.

Overall, one of my favorite Batman shows.

[Mr. Marshmallow]

Damn straight I do .

I mentioned in the TV show thread how much I enjoyed this show and I really think people give it too much flak and not enough credit. People always think negatively of the show and always eager to bash it instead of giving it a chance.

I admit, some of their character revamps like Batgirl, Mr. Freeze, and Catwoman fell pretty flat for me. There's no way to top the old Batman toon show so I don't bother comparing them, I do what every decent critic SHOULD do and judge them as their own.

I think the animation is very slick and I love the music, but most of all, I LOVE the New Joker. His design and appearance are just very creative to me, and I think he really pushes the "crazy" bar even higher then the old Joker did. Season 4 has cranked out some of the best episodes of any other season.

Here's hoping season 5 keeps up the same good work, and that people finally give "The Batman" a second look instead of a second glare.

[emperor26]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

Damn straight I do .

I mentioned in the TV show thread how much I enjoyed this show and I really think people give it too much flak and not enough credit. People always think negatively of the show and always eager to bash it instead of giving it a chance.

I admit, some of their character revamps like Batgirl, Mr. Freeze, and Catwoman fell pretty flat for me. There's no way to top the old Batman toon show so I don't bother comparing them, I do what every decent critic SHOULD do and judge them as their own.

I think the animation is very slick and I love the music, but most of all, I LOVE the New Joker. His design and appearance are just very creative to me, and I think he really pushes the "crazy" bar even higher then the old Joker did. Season 4 has cranked out some of the best episodes of any other season.

Here's hoping season 5 keeps up the same good work, and that people finally give "The Batman" a second look instead of a second glare.

Glad to know I'm not the only fan of this show.

But yeah, I agree, you should NEVER judge a show by its cover; rather, a show SHOULD be judged by its plots instead.

[AerostarMonk]

Well, I love watching this show. It's like watching an Elseworlds comic come to life. I even like the redesigned villains. However I must say that I believe that the insanity factor of the original Joker is far higher than the current one. I mean KMR's Joker has yet to reach the heights Hamill's Joker did in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker.
Though one change that I like, I prefer this series Batgirl. The one in the Dini and Timm cartoon doesn't do it for me. She just was nowhere near as cool as the Batgirl from the comics. At least the current one is much more interesting.
I have so much more to say about this show, but I don't feel like writing a novel, so I guess I'll just write them later. Glad to know others love this show as well.

[AerostarMonk]

I never really thought of Black Mask as D grade as much as he was impossible to translate to a kids' show. I mean it was thought that it would be akin to putting Zsasz in the old show. And you know they'd never put him in there.

I'd really wish they'd pull the censors back a little and let the villains go wild once in a wild. I mean I'm sorta tired of all this posturing. I mean I don't want them to show a killing spree in all its glory. But even in the days when the comics were geared towards kids people died. Where's the real danger and suspense when you know everything is going to be better in the end?

I hope they bring in Two-Face and the Mad Hatter soon. Those guys were great in the old series, and I'd love to see how they're handled here.

By the way, the old series did use D grade villains, Mad Hatter and Mr Freeze were barely used in the comics, especially Mr. Freeze. Prior to the show he was always more of a jokey character. And Killer Croc wasn't really what you'd call a major in the Rogue's Gallery either.

Personally, I'd like to see some more Man-Bat. In fact I'd like to see them tackle the storyline where Langstrom father's a son with the same symptoms he has. Not a major thing, it just seems like it could be a great story idea if done right. I mean who'd ever think they'd combine the two Clock King stories from the original series to make a fascinating new interpretation of a seldom used character in the comic books?

[Mr. Marshmallow]

The thing is though is that a D type villain CAN be used to become a much bigger villain, it all depends on potential. The Mad hatter has a great gimmick and set up which allows him to be able to be used many times. Same with Freeze, ice type villains are fairly common with super heroes.

Hatter and Freeze worked better in toons then comics, this goes back to what i said about translation. Just because something works in the comics doesn't mean it will work in another media. Galactus is a fine example. The new Fantastic 4 movie said they have to change his appearance for the film.'

Why? Because how he looks in a comic book would look totally stupid and weird in a live movie, it's all a matter of proper translation. Croc and Freeze were made into more re-usable villains thanks to the series clever use of them. I do also like how Man-bat likes being a villain in the new series as opposed to the old one.

I doubt very much we'll see Two-Face though, of all the Batman villains. Two-face has showed up the least in media appearances. This is mainly due to the fact he represents alot of serious, psychological/bipolar issues that are definitely going to be too insanely dark for a kids show.

Even if they got a little leeway with showing more graphic content in the show, Two-face is always going to be a very sensitive character to use.