Episode Discussion: Setting A President - Never Forgotten: a Foster's Home Community

Voxxyn · 10-08-2006, 10:53 PM

I don't think this episode gets the appreciation it deserves. Not only did it have some really funny moments, but also genuine drama. I must say this episode made me like Mr. Herriman a lot more, as I felt really bad for him in the final act of the episode when he was trying to find a job.

And, of course, our favorite redhead caretaker gets to shine in the lead for once. "Frankie My Dear" is an undisputed classic, but I think Mac and Bloo were the actual protagonists in that episode. Here, however, she's the main character from start to finish. And I think the storyline in this episode shows just how great her character truly is, and just how sympathetic and lovable she is as a person.

She might've been influenced to quit by the low pay, but there's no denying her endless compassion for the imaginary friends, and the fact that she wound up caring for everybody by the end of the episode--even that ol' rabbit that she doesn't get along too well with.

Medikor · 10-09-2006, 12:06 PM

Well, Harriman is still her family, right? Frankie wouldan't want to hurt him, no matter how much he makes her work to the bone. And you do have to feel bad for Harriman. He must have thought his world was put upside-down when Frankie won. He must have thought anarchy and chaos would rule.

It was great to see Frankie win. Evan if she handed her new role back to Mr. Harriman. But evan then, she still got the last laugh.

Mr. Marshmallow · 10-09-2006, 12:34 PM

This obviously was a great episode vehicle for Frankie, and I think it was here that all the viewers and characters found out what we all knew all along: just how important Frankie is to Foster's and what she does for everyone.

We all know Frankie takes care of everyone and caters to everyone's needs, but it was never really brought to the show's attention as directly as this. And despite the fact I hated how Frankie was totally bashed in "Imposter's".

I have to say, this "torture" Bloo put her through was quite amusing. The photos, the ad commercials, and of course those "admittingly catchy songs". That just made me laugh. Bloo has some great moments in this episode.

I especially liked this one:

Herriman: That wasn't an answer at all, he's just mud slinging.

SPLAT

Herriman:.....oh I should have seen that coming.

And

......cough "Loser"

good stuff.

frankie_fan · 12-05-2006, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow

I especially liked this one:

Herriman: That wasn't an answer at all, he's just mud slinging.

SPLAT

Herriman:.....oh I should have seen that coming.

And

......cough "Loser"

good stuff.

Couldn't agree more. The mud slinging was great. I also loved Eduardo's punching gag. That got me going!!

Partymember · 12-08-2006, 09:58 AM

its on at 2pm on Saturday! wohoo!

Howard · 12-08-2006, 11:59 AM

This is one episode I have not seen.

Voxxyn · 10-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Um... in absolutely NO way was I bashing Herriman. I was just trying to point out how Frankie felt sorry for him even after all the tough times she has endured thanks largely to him, and how she had the heart(And yes, I do believe it was as much of an influence on her final decision as her financial interests were) at the end to give him back his old job.

Seriously, I've always enjoyed his character, and found his antics to be funny. But this episode DID make him seem somewhat more sympathetic, as we saw that his role as President is really all he's ever known for the last 30 years. Because I don't want any more confusion, I edited the offending part of my original post.

The "torturing" of Frankie in this episode--the smear attack and song--was hilarious stuff. I think that's because it was done to be goofy and lightheartedly silly, and wasn't cruel at all. The song was very addictive; and Frankie herself didn't have trouble admitting that.

Unlike that other Season 3 episode, "Setting A President" had a genuine story instead of being a thinly-veiled excuse to bash the hell out of somebody, and that's why I loved it.

Medikor · 10-09-2006, 04:34 PM

I never got the feeling that you were bashing Mr. Harriman at all, Voxxyn. And we all know Frankie would have given him his job back, even if she made alot more money. That's just how wonderful Frankie is!

I think a slight reversal on this episode could be another great Harriman/Frankie episode. Maybe have Mr.Harriman refuse to give Frankie a raise or more time off, so she go'es on strike. Mr.Harriman hire's one new applicant after the other, but none of them can do the job well at all. In the end, Mr.Harriman realizes that Frankie is the only employee he's ever had to even come close to his standards of work ethic and the other friend's start demanding him to bring Frankie back. So in the end, Mr.Hariman gives in to Frankie's demands and the whole house learns a lesson or two.
1: Mr. Hariman learns that his standards MAY be a little too high.
2: The friends who were taking Frankie for granted learn just how important she is to them and the house.
This is just a simple flip on the "Setting a Presadent" formula, and could make for an amusing episode. Especialy if Bloo is calling for the replacement workers to do every little thing for him untill Frankie comes back.

Cassini90125 · 10-09-2006, 05:38 PM

That may well be one of the best episode ideas I've ever read. I'd love to see that!

Voxxyn · 10-09-2006, 08:23 PM

I think that's an absolutely great idea!

Though, for a future episode, I'd like to see them in some kind of situation, where they're forced to work together and co-operate for the sake of something or somebody. They would be very hesitant at first, but by the end of the episode, they might actually gain a newfound appreciation for each other. I'd just like to see their teamwork portrayed in a protagonist-like way, because what we've actually seen of such so far has been somewhat antagonistic towards the others(Wrongly punishing the friends thanks to Bendy's manipulation, trying to get rid of Eduardo's fleas against his will).

10-08-2006, 10:53 PM	#1
Voxxyn Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Zebes Posts: 1,069	Episode Discussion: Setting A President I don't think this episode gets the appreciation it deserves. Not only did it have some really funny moments, but also genuine drama. I must say this episode made me like Mr. Herriman a lot more, as I felt really bad for him in the final act of the episode when he was trying to find a job. And, of course, our favorite redhead caretaker gets to shine in the lead for once. "Frankie My Dear" is an undisputed classic, but I think Mac and Bloo were the actual protagonists in that episode. Here, however, she's the main character from start to finish. And I think the storyline in this episode shows just how great her character truly is, and just how sympathetic and lovable she is as a person. She might've been influenced to quit by the low pay, but there's no denying her endless compassion for the imaginary friends, and the fact that she wound up caring for everybody by the end of the episode--even that ol' rabbit that she doesn't get along too well with. Last edited by Voxxyn; 10-09-2006 at 03:33 PM.

10-09-2006, 12:06 PM	#2
Medikor Robot Master I'm a bubble man! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 1,428	Well, Harriman is still her family, right? Frankie wouldan't want to hurt him, no matter how much he makes her work to the bone. And you do have to feel bad for Harriman. He must have thought his world was put upside-down when Frankie won. He must have thought anarchy and chaos would rule. It was great to see Frankie win. Evan if she handed her new role back to Mr. Harriman. But evan then, she still got the last laugh. __________________

10-09-2006, 12:34 PM	#3
Mr. Marshmallow Not-So-Hopeless Romantic Gotta love being in love Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Orland Park, IL Posts: 1,924	This obviously was a great episode vehicle for Frankie, and I think it was here that all the viewers and characters found out what we all knew all along: just how important Frankie is to Foster's and what she does for everyone. We all know Frankie takes care of everyone and caters to everyone's needs, but it was never really brought to the show's attention as directly as this. And despite the fact I hated how Frankie was totally bashed in "Imposter's". I have to say, this "torture" Bloo put her through was quite amusing. The photos, the ad commercials, and of course those "admittingly catchy songs". That just made me laugh. Bloo has some great moments in this episode. I especially liked this one: Herriman: That wasn't an answer at all, he's just mud slinging. SPLAT Herriman:.....oh I should have seen that coming. And ......cough "Loser" good stuff. __________________ http://www.youtube.com/user/BionicSlime http://www.fanfiction.net/~nukem999

12-08-2006, 09:58 AM	#5
Partymember super-scientist GO TEAM VENTURE! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lake George Posts: 1,500	its on at 2pm on Saturday! wohoo! __________________ Think you used enough dynamite there, Butch?

10-09-2006, 04:34 PM	#8
Medikor Robot Master I'm a bubble man! Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia, Canada Posts: 1,428	I never got the feeling that you were bashing Mr. Harriman at all, Voxxyn. And we all know Frankie would have given him his job back, even if she made alot more money. That's just how wonderful Frankie is! I think a slight reversal on this episode could be another great Harriman/Frankie episode. Maybe have Mr.Harriman refuse to give Frankie a raise or more time off, so she go'es on strike. Mr.Harriman hire's one new applicant after the other, but none of them can do the job well at all. In the end, Mr.Harriman realizes that Frankie is the only employee he's ever had to even come close to his standards of work ethic and the other friend's start demanding him to bring Frankie back. So in the end, Mr.Hariman gives in to Frankie's demands and the whole house learns a lesson or two. 1: Mr. Hariman learns that his standards MAY be a little too high. 2: The friends who were taking Frankie for granted learn just how important she is to them and the house. This is just a simple flip on the "Setting a Presadent" formula, and could make for an amusing episode. Especialy if Bloo is calling for the replacement workers to do every little thing for him untill Frankie comes back. __________________ Last edited by Medikor; 10-10-2006 at 05:32 AM.

12-08-2006, 11:59 AM	#6
Howard Desert Rat Only the best! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: AZ desert Posts: 1,356	This is one episode I have not seen.

10-09-2006, 03:32 PM	#7
Voxxyn Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Zebes Posts: 1,069	Um... in absolutely NO way was I bashing Herriman. I was just trying to point out how Frankie felt sorry for him even after all the tough times she has endured thanks largely to him, and how she had the heart(And yes, I do believe it was as much of an influence on her final decision as her financial interests were) at the end to give him back his old job. Seriously, I've always enjoyed his character, and found his antics to be funny. But this episode DID make him seem somewhat more sympathetic, as we saw that his role as President is really all he's ever known for the last 30 years. Because I don't want any more confusion, I edited the offending part of my original post. The "torturing" of Frankie in this episode--the smear attack and song--was hilarious stuff. I think that's because it was done to be goofy and lightheartedly silly, and wasn't cruel at all. The song was very addictive; and Frankie herself didn't have trouble admitting that. Unlike that other Season 3 episode, "Setting A President" had a genuine story instead of being a thinly-veiled excuse to bash the hell out of somebody, and that's why I loved it.

10-09-2006, 05:38 PM	#9
Cassini90125 The Postmaster Love gives you courage that's stronger than anything! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Saturn Posts: 6,645	That may well be one of the best episode ideas I've ever read. I'd love to see that! __________________ "Frankie! That weird kid is using a flower pot for a cup!" Sailor Moon. Best Anime EVER.

10-09-2006, 08:23 PM	#10
Voxxyn Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Zebes Posts: 1,069	I think that's an absolutely great idea! Though, for a future episode, I'd like to see them in some kind of situation, where they're forced to work together and co-operate for the sake of something or somebody. They would be very hesitant at first, but by the end of the episode, they might actually gain a newfound appreciation for each other. I'd just like to see their teamwork portrayed in a protagonist-like way, because what we've actually seen of such so far has been somewhat antagonistic towards the others(Wrongly punishing the friends thanks to Bendy's manipulation, trying to get rid of Eduardo's fleas against his will). Last edited by Voxxyn; 10-09-2006 at 11:09 PM.