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![]() Government Man's (largely cribbed) Guide to San Diego Hotels-- ![]() ![]() Note: Updates are in ![]() ![]() I started research to decide where Sparky and I are going to stay for the 2007 San Diego Comic Con. The Con website ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Part I: San Diego Neighborhoods The 2007 San Diego Comic Con will be held in the San Diego Convention Center, located "in the heart of Downtown San Diego" (see map). All of Downtown is within a mile of the Convention Center, so getting a hotel there means you can walk. The airport is northeast of Downtown. North of the airport is Old Town (3 miles from the Convention Center) and east of that is Mission Valley (4 miles from the Convention Center), where the vast majority of affordable hotels are. San Diego has a trolley system to handle public transportation. See the orange and blue lines on the map for the routes; the plus symbols mark the stations the trolleys stop at. For those taking the train, the Amtrak station is located where the orange and blue lines meet (south of #18). The trolley runs through Old Town and Mission Valley, so I'll be posting about hotels there in a few days.
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![]() Government Man's Guide to San Diego Hotels Part II: Downtown Hotels ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Next, I consulted Expedia to see what hotels were available for Tuesday, July 24th to Sunday, July 29th. ![]() ![]() The name of each hotel below is followed by the distance to the Convention Center. Unfortunately, these are distances "as the crow flies", not how far it would be in San Diego's one-way streets. Next, each hotel is given a rating of one to five stars (including "half stars"). Here's what they mean to Expedia: Code:
* Economy: no guarantee of in-room phone or bathroom, limited hours, no on-site dining ** Value: private bathroom, phone, TV; Continental breakfast *** Quality: pool and a restaurant **** Superior: room service, valet parking ***** Exceptional: DSL internet & DVD players in every room, spa and golf course in the back, solid gold mint on your pillow When a hotel was rated by AAA, I give the number of "diamonds" from them (1D, 2D, 3D, 4D or 5D). The meaning of the diamonds are pretty close to what the stars mean; if a hotel isn't AAA rated, it's either a new hotel or it's in trouble. Following the rating is the lowest price per night for a two-bed, two-person room ![]() ![]() When neither the ComicCon nor Expedia had a price, I turned to the 2006 San Diego guide by Fodor's. They rate hotel prices as follows: Code:
c = under $90 $ = $90 to $120 $$ = $121 to $175 $$$ = $175 to $250 $$$$ = over $250 ? = not in Fodor's Finally, I'll include what Fodor's had to say about each hotel that's in their book (a note at the beginning of the listings in Fodor's says, "You can assume that all rooms have private baths, phones, TVs and air-conditioning unless otherwise noted. Downtown hotels cater primarily to business travelers, while those at Mission Bay, in coastal locations such as Carlsbad and Encinitas, and at inland resorts offer golf and other sport facilities, spa services, children's activities, and more. As far as meals included with rent, San Diego hotels operate on the European Plan (meaning without meals), unless we specify that they use the Continental Plan (with a Continental breakfast), Breakfast Plan (with a full breakfast) or Modified American Plan (with breakfast and dinner) or are all-inclusive (including all meals and most activities). We always list facilities but not whether you'll be charged an extra fee to use them, so when pricing accommodations, find out what?s included.") Here is a map showing the locations of the Convention Center (the big red star is the northern end of it, at address 111 W. Harbor Drive, San Diego, CA 92101) and surrounding available hotels in the Downtown area. As with the neighborhood map, the orange and blue lines show the two main trolley routes, with the crosses for stations--note that one of the stations is right next to Hotel #21. Coronado Island is off the southern end of this map. Its hotels are just under a mile from the Convention Center, but I left them off the list because they are all four-star hotels (with four-star prices), and I've heard the drive over the long bridge connecting the island with the mainland is hellish.
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![]() A note to everyone:
DO NOT POST ON THE FORUM ANY DETAILS ABOUT WHAT HOTEL YOU MAY OR ARE GOING TO STAY AT FOR THE CON. Do not post ANYTHING about your plans on the forum, in any thread. *Anyone* can be reading this. This thread is for information purposes only and will be locked.
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![]() (continuing the Downtown list,
![]() ![]() In the following list, numbers 1 - 21 are less than a mile from the Convention Center, 22 and 23 are far away but definitely have shuttles to the Convention Center, and 24 - 30 are between one and two miles away (I left the hotels with more than three stars out of this last list). 1. Marriott San Diego Hotel and Marina (0.05 mi) **** ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 2. The Horton Grand Hotel (0.18 mi) *** ![]() ![]() 3. Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego (0.27 mi) **** 4D ![]() ![]() 4. San Diego Marriott Gaslamp Quarter (0.33 mi) **** ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5. Omni San Diego Hotel (0.35 mi) **** 4D ![]() ![]() 6. Comfort Inn Gaslamp (0.42 mi) ** $233 660 G St., Downtown 92101. 7. Embassy Suites San Diego Bay (0.43 mi) ***.5 ![]() ![]() 8. Westin Horton Plaza Hotel (0.43 mi) **** ![]() ![]() 9. Ramada Gaslamp Convention Center (fka the St. James Hotel, 0.46 mi) *** ![]() ![]() 10. Gaslamp Plaza Suites (0.48 mi) *** ![]() ![]()
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![]() (Downtown Hotels 11 - 20,
![]() ![]() 11. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 12. The U. S Grant (0.50 mi) **** ![]() ![]() 13. Bristol Hotel (0.51 mi) ***.5 3D ![]() ![]() The next two are on top of each other on the map, so they get the same number. 14. 500 West Hotel (0.51 mi) * ![]() ![]() 14. Courtyard by Marriott San Diego Downtown-Gaslamp (0.54 mi) *** $377 530 Broadway, Gaslamp Quarter 92101. 15. Westgate Hotel (0.52 mi) **** ![]() ![]() 16. W San Diego (0.63 mi) **** ![]() ![]() 17. Sheraton Suites San Diego (0.78 mi) ***.5 3D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 18. Best Western Bayside Inn (0.79 mi) **.5 3D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 19. Quality Inn & Suites Harborview (0.86 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 19 (again). Holiday Inn Express Downtown Harborview [not in Expedia] 3D $162 1430 7th Ave., Downtown 92101 (did Holiday Inn buy the Quality Inn, or vice-versa?) 20. Days Inn Downtown/Convention Center (0.91 mi) ** 2D ![]() ![]() 20 (again). Best Western Cabrillo Garden Inn (0.91 mi) [not in Expedia] 3D ? 840 A St., Downtown 92101.
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![]() (Downtown Hotels 21 - 30 and a final note for Downtown,
![]() ![]() 21. Hampton Inn San Diego Downtown (0.94 mi) **.5 ![]() ![]() 22. Holiday Inn on the Bay (1.37 mi) [not in Expedia] 3D ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 23. Sheraton San Diego Hotel and Marina (2.25 mi) ***.5 ![]() ![]() 24. Pacific Inn Hotel and Suites (1.01 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 25. Super 8 Motel San Diego Bayview/Convention Center (1.07 mi) ** ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 26. Residence Inn by Marriott San Diego Downtown (1.08 mi) *** ![]() ![]() 27. Marina Inn Hotel and Suites (1.15 mi) *.5 ![]() ![]() 27 (again). Days Inn Harbor View (not in Expedia) 2D $171 1919 Pacific Hwy., Little Italy 92101. 28. Americas Best Value Inn Convention Center/Downtown (1.15 mi) * ![]() ![]() 29. Harborview Inn and Suites (1.19 mi) *.5 ![]() ![]() 29 (again). Little Italy Inn (1.19 mi) *.5 c-$$$ This old world-style bed-and-breakfast, in a renovated 1910 property, has 22 unique, well-appointed rooms and a secluded courtyard pool, unusual for area B&Bs. Wide hallways lead to room with luxury touches like wood floors, whirlpool tubs, and free bottles of water, not to mention bay views. And the cafes, boutiques, and bakeries of Little Italy are steps away. The lowest-price rooms have shared baths; VCRs, DVD players, irons, ironing boards, hairdryers, fridges, and microwave are available upon request. 505 W. Grape St., Little Italy 92101. Phone 619/230-1600 or 800/518-9930, fax 619/230-0322, web www.littleitalyhotel.com. 22 rooms. Cable TV with movies, in-room safes, in-room data ports, Wi-Fi, pool. Accepts AE, D, MC, V. Meals on the Continental Plan. 30. San Diego Airport Motel 6 (1.42 mi) ** ![]() ![]() The following hotels were listed in Expedia but were booked for at least one day between July 24th and 29th: Comfort Inn Downtown and Hotel Solamar A Kimpton Hotel.
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![]() Government Man's Guide to San Diego Hotels Part III: Hotels Near Trolley Stops, Downtown to La Mesa ![]() ![]() (These are all covered on the main map.) As you might have realized from reading the Downtown list, most of the hotels there are for folks who sound like Thurston Howell III. To get something affordable, you have to rely on the San Diego Trolley to get you to the Convention Center. Here is a map of the trolley routes. I will be rating each hotel based on how close it is to a trolley station, stopping at the half-mile point. From now on, I will only include a hotel if it is under $200 a night ![]() ![]() Orange Line (Downtown) City College Station The fare to go to the Convention Center would be $1.25 each way (this is the discount rate for all downtown stations). 20. Days Inn Downtown/Convention Center (0.28 mi) ** 2D ![]() ![]() Fifth Avenue Station The fare is $1.25 each way. 10. Gaslamp Plaza Suites (0.14 mi) *** ![]() ![]() 17. Sheraton Suites San Diego (0.19 mi) ***.5 3D ![]() ![]() 19. Quality Inn & Suites Harborview (0.27 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 11. Westin San Diego (was the Wyndham San Diego at Emerald Plaza) (0.37 mi) ***.5 ![]() ![]() Civic Center Station The fare is $1.25 each way. 13. Bristol Hotel (0.11 mi) ***.5 3D ![]() ![]() America Plaza Station This is the transfer point for the Blue Line. The fare is $1.25 each way. 18. Best Western Bayside Inn (0.23 mi) **.5 3D ![]() ![]() Blue Line Stations (Downtown) Santa Fe Depot This is also the Amtrak station. The fare is $1.25 each way. 14. 500 West Hotel (0.11 mi) * ![]() ![]() Little Italy Station The fare is $1.25 each way. 24. Pacific Inn Hotel and Suites (0.03 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 21. Hampton Inn San Diego Downtown (0.06 mi) **.5 ![]() ![]() 27. Marina Inn Hotel and Suites (0.16 mi) *.5 ![]() ![]() 25. Super 8 Motel San Diego Bayview/Convention Center (0.25 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 29. Harborview Inn and Suites (0.32 mi) *.5 ![]() ![]() 29 (again). Little Italy Inn (0.34 mi) *.5 c-$$$ Blue Line Stations (Old Town) Middletown Station The fare is $2.25 each way. It's at this point that day passes become economical: unlimited travel for four days for $15. 30. San Diego Airport Motel 6 (0.38 mi) ** ![]() ![]() Washington Street Station The fare is $2.25 each way. 31. Comfort Inn Airport at Old Town (0.35 mi) **.5 3D ![]() ![]() Old Town Transit Center The fare is $2.25 each way. 32. Good Nite Inn Sea World (0.29 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 32 (again). Hampton Inn Seaworld/Airport (0.29 mi) **.5 ![]() ![]() 33. Best Western Hacienda Suites Old Town (0.38 mi) *** 3D ![]() ![]() Blue Line Stations (Mission Valley) Morena/Linda Vista Station The fare is $2.25 each way. 34. Comfort Inn & Suites Zoo Sea World (0.47 mi) **.5 3D ![]() ![]() Fashion Valley Transit Center The fare is $2.25 each way. This is in the middle of a big shopping center with no hotels nearby. Hazard Center The fare is $2.25 each way. 35. Hilton San Diego Mission Valley (0.47 mi) ***.5 3D ![]() ![]() The next five stations are devoid of nearby hotels. Green Line Stations (Kensington) Grantville Station The fare is $2.50 each way. 36. Super 8 Mission Valley/Qualcomm (0.06 mi) ** ![]() ![]() San Diego State University Transit Center The fare is $2.50 each way. No hotels here. Green Line (La Mesa) Alvarado Medical Center Station nope. 70th Street Station The fare is $2.50 each way. 37. Days Inn La Mesa Suites (0.43 mi) ** 2D ![]() ![]()
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![]() Government Man's Guide to San Diego Hotels ![]() ![]() Part IV: Hotels Near Trolley Stops, Downtown to Lemon Grove Well, taking the Blue Line north didn't work out so well, so let's try taking the Orange Line east. Unfortunately, most of these stations are for residential areas with no hotels. You have to go all the way to La Mesa to find anything. Orange Line Stations (La Mesa) La Mesa Blvd Station The fare to the Convention Center is $2.50. 38. Ramada Ltd La Mesa CA (0.43 mi) *.5 ![]() ![]()
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![]() Government Man's Guide to San Diego Hotels ![]() ![]() Part V: Hotels Near Trolley Stops: The Run to the Border We will now turn to our final option if we're using the trolley: the Blue Line running from Downtown to San Ysidro on the Mexican border. This isn't going to be pretty, folks. Blue Line Stations (San Diego) Barrio Logan The fare to the Convention Center is $2.00. 28. Americas Best Value Inn Convention Center/Downtown (0.25 mi) * ![]() ![]() Skip two stations. Blue Line Stations (National City) 8th Street Station The fare is $2.25. 39. Howard Johnson Express Inn National City (0.46 mi) ** 2D ![]() ![]() Skip one station. Blue Line Stations (Chula Vista) Bayfront/E Street Station The fare is $2.25. 40. Good Nite Inn Chula Vista (0.10 mi) ** ![]() ![]() 41. Best Western South Bay Inn (0.14 mi) *** 3D ![]() ![]() 41 (again). Days Inn San Diego / South Bay (0.16 mi) ** 2D ![]() ![]() 42. Vagabond Inn Chula Vista (0.41 mi) ** 2D ![]() ![]() Skip to the end of the line. Blue Line Stations (San Ysidro) San Ysidro Transit Center The fare is $2.50. 43. Travelodge San Ysidro (0.16 mi) ** ![]() ![]() And that's it. 34 of the original 50 hotels are available (plus 2 new ones), 26 of them under $200 a night. Hopefully, you should be able to find someplace to stay from that, but considering that 16 hotels became unavailable in a little over a month, you had better make your reservations as soon as possible.
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![]() I updated the posts to include February prices and the Comic-Con's discounts. See all the stuff in blue.
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