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Old 01-28-2007, 05:56 PM   #49
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Yes and yes! Which is why I fail to grasp why some people cannot fathom a "baddie" becoming good. Iago was a particularly nasty foe who *I* never thought would ever change, and look at him now. He's still a bit of a coward, greedy, and even selfish, but he managed to put his own interests aside and almost sacrificed himself to help the very people who doubted him and were willing to turn their backs on.

I agree on many of the grisly villain deaths in Disney movie history. I know it's just for entertainment value (though I fail to find anything entertaining about death, to be honest), but I find it kind of macabre to dispose of every villain by killing them off in the most violent, bloodiest way. It's become such a trend now that people get surprised when a bad guy isn't killed off, whether they've been particularly nasty or not. If they're bad, they're supposed to die because that's just the way it's been for as long as television and entertainment have been around, right? We didn't need Disney to introduce us to the very fine line that defines "good" and "bad". Unfortunately, having been spoon-fed this ideal for most of our lives is what keeps some individuals thinking that redemption is a long ways from anyone who's ever crossed that fine line. It's strictly black and white with no in- between, and I hate it.

I know that Capt. Gantu was in much the same situation that Randall was-a pawn of someone with far more power and influence than himself(even if, in the case of the former, that individual happened to be a pint-sized RODENT, NOT that this might be symbolic of Disney's hold over its creative persons or anything...), while at the same time desparately trying to improve his situation in life. It happens-I've Been There, Done That. Good people CAN be misled or forced into doing bad things. Real Life has shown me, personally, that there is indeed a fine line between good and bad, and everyone crosses it at some point, some more than others. Ironically, in my own experience, which I think I can safely say does excede that of anyone else hear by virtue of age, it's the people who most loudly cry out "EVIL!!" and point fingers and cast those proverbial stones at those they believe are deserving of punishment who are themselves the most likely to have the most skeletons in THEIR closets, with regards to having done some not-so-nice things.

Disney, however, did not make Monsters, Inc., and Disney's penchant for having that jaded "Good Guy vs. Bad Guy" formula, with their "Bad Guys" usually meeting some horrible demise, is reason alone for Pixar to buck that trend and actually show that there are indeed two sides to every coin. What Sulley and Mike did was committ premeditated murder, if Randall did indeed die-and anyone who argues that this is not the case better have a good lawyer on retainer when you decide to off someone who's hurt you in the past. Revenge is the number one motive for murder, after all. Yet, we are supposed to believe that two guys who plot the death of a co-worker out of revenge, or vigilantism, are great and wonderful individuals who can do no wrong?

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