[Nathander]

Originally Posted by Voxxyn

I don't feel outright anger towards any of the Foster's crew, but neither can I say that I'm 100% cool with the fact that they were the ones responsible. I'm disappointed with how Craig Lewis(and anybody who might've helped uncredited) wrote the episode, and with how Craig McCracken and the rest of the crew agreed to it without consideration of it's potential of hurting Frankie fans. And to this day, it still upsets me that Lauren Faust dismissed everybody who disliked/hated the episode as "wanting the characters to hold hands and be 100% happy"(WHICH I DO NOT).

You're missing the fact that many episodes which we usually don't find to be hurtful towards a certain character/s, do in fact contain the potential to be hurtful to the fans of those characters in the things that happen to those characters. I think they didn't really put any consideration into the thought due to the fact that they believed (and I think rightfully so) that people would see it all in good fun. While it doesn't seem this way to you because of your fixation on the character, I find it hard to believe that they had ever intended for this episode to be hurtful to Frankie fans, and I find it overwhelming that people are unable to take a joke. While I found this episode to be unfair to Frankie, my dislike in it wasn't due primarily to the fact that Frankie was mistreated (almost every character in the entire series has been mistreated in some way, many times repeatedly and not just Frankie), but because I found the episode to be technically and structurally inferior to previous ones and my dislike of Goofball. On the flip side, while I found "I Only Have Surprise for You" hurtful and mistreatful to Mac, I also found it hilarious in a lot of ways, the only part I truly disliked being the very last bit.

No offense, but I have to admit that the hostility over this episode towards the crew bothers me in several ways, as I find it to be a mixing of priorities, that is being angry at real people over the treatment of a cartoon character. But that's a whole other debate.

Originally Posted by montitech

So I would say overall: Franky Fans Get a Hold of yourselves. Frankie is a Strong Character that can easily withstand the trials of Goofball, thus you can dislike goofball but Stop Making Frankie look like a delicate flower, becase remember in her own words "but I'm Punk rock." (from setting a president after bloo called her a poser on the speaker)

No offense, montitech, but I basically said the same "get ahold of yourselves" thing quite a ways back, around page 7 or 8 I believe (though I did so in a much less necessary, long winded, -esque way), and I doubt the real claim I made was truly heard. Though, I have to admit, I think you're getting the wrong impression from what fans like Voxxyn and Cassini are trying to express, as they've already said. To them, it's more like the honor of their lady has been tarnished, and they feel the need to redeem her.

Not that the amount of empathy they have for the character is necessarily a bad thing, of course, but I myself feel they go a bit far in their devotion and that may cause it to seem strange to others. However, we really don't have the right to judge them based on that, as we each have our own favorite character, in this fandom or another, that we probably hold as much esteem for and would defend as hard as they defend Frankie. So, really, to fault them for their devotion would be a form of hypocrisy, at least in my own opinion (not to say you do this; just to express my own opinion on the matter, as it's been bugging me and I had to get it off my chest).

So while I think you were saying the correct thing in telling them to get a bit of a grip, I think you were slightly misguided in how you felt they viewed Frankie.

Originally Posted by Cassini90125

No, for me the point is simply that she suffered. She was hurt by the events, and I want Goofball to suffer for it. I don't like seeing Frankie in pain, and my heart cries for her because I care about her so much, and my soul screams for vengeance because Goofball must be held accountable for hurting her.

Which would be a natural reaction for a fan. However, let's think about this a bit rationally; seeing as how we'll almost certainly never see the character again, is he really deserving of this kind of attention? While he hurt Frankie, I would wager there are people who hurt Frankie even more in her life (and, personally as an example, I'd think the emotional blow Dylan's true motives in "Frankie, My Dear" would have stung more than the aftermath of Goofball), and is he even a worthy memory in Frankie's book? I would wager not.