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Ricky Fieldmouse 11-19-2006 12:03 PM

Do imaginary friends age?
 
I'm sure we all notice a change in Bloo's voice during season 2. Which came the question: Do IF's age? All the resources of IF's aging is that one flashback in The Trouble with Scribbles and the photo album in The Big Picture, but it didn't look like If's were aging.

kageri 11-19-2006 12:08 PM

I don't think they do, personally, or at least not that we can see. Bloo's change in voice is.... something probably involving Craig and Co. wanting it to be higher.

Cassini90125 11-19-2006 12:58 PM

It may depend on the IF; perhaps some show signs of aging while others don't. I cannot, however, picture Mr. Herriman as a cute little baby bunny. :herriman:

CG 11-19-2006 01:51 PM

Phsyically, no, imaginaries don't age. This is evident from Mr. Herriman explaining to Mac and Bloo about the photos, given they don't change their appearance it's a waste of time to take a photo every year.

But aging as in, still celebrating a 'creation' day happens given the whole Arty incident. Even if it was a hoax, I like to believe the imaginaries to at least celebrate the day they were created. So they'd be a certain number or ages, even if there has been no physical change from when they celebrated their 1st birthday to say.. their 75th birthday.

But aging mentally? That's another issue all together. They obviously learn things as they go through the years. What's right, what's wrong, world around them etc. etc.

pitbulllady 11-19-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 16640)
Phsyically, no, imaginaries don't age. This is evident from Mr. Herriman explaining to Mac and Bloo about the photos, given they don't change their appearance it's a waste of time to take a photo every year.

But aging as in, still celebrating a 'creation' day happens given the whole Arty incident. Even if it was a hoax, I like to believe the imaginaries to at least celebrate the day they were created. So they'd be a certain number or ages, even if there has been no physical change from when they celebrated their 1st birthday to say.. their 75th birthday.

But aging mentally? That's another issue all together. They obviously learn things as they go through the years. What's right, what's wrong, world around them etc. etc.

I think that their behavior does indeed change, depending on their environments, their experiences, and of course, their mental capacity to begin with. They might very well age internally, though. Many animals do not exhibit any outward signs of aging, but inside, their parts just eventually "wear out", for lack of a better term. There just comes a time when their bodies' capacity to repair themselves internally is no longer able to keep up with the stresses of life. I think, too, in the case of sentient beings like Imaginary Friends, aging can be very much a state of mind, just as it often is with humans. You've probably heard the old saying, "You're as young as you feel", which can be quite true. My mother died at the age of just 46, from complications of emphasema, but due to her long-term depression, she was an old woman by that time, tired of living. In contrast, my great aunt, who lives across the road from me, is 87, and she's more active than I am, and most of the time, FEELS better than I do! It has a lot to do with attitude and spirit, as much as with time.

pitbulllady

Tonya 11-19-2006 04:59 PM

Yeah, I too agree with pbl.
And in my opinion, who knows, mabe it also can depend on if the child imagined the friend to be "physically age-able"? I dunno, I'd kinda want my imaginary friend to grow old with me. But that's me. Speaking of the subject, even if some imaginaries don't appear to physically age, I wonder if they can still go through puberty? You don't have to change on the outside to change on the inside you know.

Cassini90125 11-19-2006 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonya (Post 16680)
Yeah, I too agree with pbl.
And in my opinion, who knows, mabe it also can depend on if the child imagined the friend to be "physically age-able"? I dunno, I'd kinda want my imaginary friend to grow old with me. But that's me. Speaking of the subject, even if some imaginaries don't appear to physically age, I wonder if they can still go through puberty? You don't have to change on the outside to change on the inside you know.

Like aging, it likely varies from IF to IF, and let's be careful with this, okay?

Tonya 11-19-2006 05:37 PM

Oh okay, I just always wondered.

Thornwhistle 11-20-2006 06:05 PM

That makes me wonder. When Mr. Herriman was imagined by Madame Foster as a young girl,was he already an old rabbit?

Cassini90125 11-20-2006 06:23 PM

I think so; my theory is that he was created as a substitute for her own father, who was absent for one reason or another.

Thornwhistle 11-20-2006 06:29 PM

Your theory just brings up unanswered questions.

CG 11-20-2006 06:29 PM

Then it brings up this quandry; pbl mentioned how they could age by their insides just getting older. If Herriman was created old, then wouldn't his parts be SUPER old by now? And if so why don't we hear him complaining about a trick back, or something along those lines? Yet still the elderly rabbit can hop pretty darn fast (Land of the Flea) and survive a near fatal tumble down a whole flight of stairs (Crime after Crime, Bus the Two of Us) and even a nasty body cast (Bloo's the Boss). I know I'd be kicking up a stink if I were that age doing what he does half the time.

Cassini90125 11-20-2006 06:40 PM

His appearance was old; his parts, however, were new. One could build a car from parts available today in the form of a 1908 Pierce-Arrow; it looks ancient, but in reality it's brand new.

CG 11-20-2006 06:53 PM

Imaginaries ain't cars! :P

lol this is getting silly now.

kageri 11-20-2006 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 16918)
His appearance was old; his parts, however, were new. One could build a car from parts available today in the form of a 1908 Pierce-Arrow; it looks ancient, but in reality it's brand new.

But by now they would be old, too. I mean, Madame Foster's like eighty years old.

montitech 11-20-2006 07:50 PM

In the movie "Drop Dead Fred", Drop Dead Fred was the IF of the Lead character, both at her childhood and then 20 years later when he came back. He was virtually unchanged. he did not age in the same way that people age. (I do not think this was mentioned yet but I could be wrong)

IN my opinion, I think Imaginary Friends age Like Cartoons.

Cartoons do not age, some examples:
Tom and Jerry, Scooby Doo, Muppets, Buggs and Daffy, ect...
all these characters have been around for over 30 years and each of them have had new shows/movies in the past few years. The main characters never changed.

Basically they do not age, but they do develop over time. a good example of developing over time, is the Simpsons. Look at some of there Original 5min skits and they were extreamly different. thus over time, a cartoon character ages by becoming better developed. so IF develop over time, by experiencing new things, but not by getting elderly, ackes or pains.

I wish I could spell. :(
Monty :-/

Cassini90125 11-20-2006 07:56 PM

Some of the Scooby-Doo movies did feature somewhat older versions of the characters. Daphne looked phenomenal. :)

LaBlooGirl 11-21-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 16923)
Imaginaries ain't cars! :P

lol this is getting silly now.

Oh yeah? I'm pretty sure there would be some Imaginary cars out there in the Foster's universe! Huh, what an insult to them!
LOL8D j/k

I don't think that IFs can live forever, so somewhere along the line, they have to grow "old" and pass on. Then again, after seeing Mr. Pockets and how many generations HE'S been with...whose to say for sure? I guess that's one mystery Craig has yet to reveal to us.

CG 11-21-2006 11:52 AM

Who knows, really. But I know in a few doodles I've drawn retirement-home age Eduardo, Wilt 'n Coco. They're funny when they're old.

Eduardo: Es you taken your tablets?
Wilt: *straining to hear* Sorry..?
Eduardo: ES YOU TAKE YOUR TABLETS?
Wilt: I'm sorry, but why are you yelling...?

*snorts a giggle* Still makes me laugh even if it'll never happen.

LaBlooGirl 11-21-2006 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 17052)
Who knows, really. But I know in a few doodles I've drawn retirement-home age Eduardo, Wilt 'n Coco. They're funny when they're old.

Eduardo: Es you taken your tablets?
Wilt: *straining to hear* Sorry..?
Eduardo: ES YOU TAKE YOUR TABLETS?
Wilt: I'm sorry, but why are you yelling...?

*snorts a giggle* Still makes me laugh even if it'll never happen.

LOL 8D That's perfect! I hope you share those "doodles'!
And wouldn't that just make a grand fanfic! XD

CG 11-21-2006 11:57 AM

Great now that there's a demand for it I gotta finish em! *shakes fist at LaBlooGirl* Grr!

Nah, seriously. I will. But the doodles ain't worth squat. I'll redraw them better and probably post em tonight.

DoubleLatte 11-21-2006 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by montitech (Post 16944)
In the movie "Drop Dead Fred", Drop Dead Fred was the IF of the Lead character, both at her childhood and then 20 years later when he came back. He was virtually unchanged. he did not age in the same way that people age. (I do not think this was mentioned yet but I could be wrong)

Glad you brought up that movie. Thing is, Drop Dead Fred was invisible to everyone but this girl. He was more of an extension of herself which she used as an outlet. In contrast, Foster's IF are as real as we are, though they never seem to physically age. If their insides deteriorated with time as PBL stated, how has Uncle Pockets been able to stay alive and kicking after every generation of children he's been through? (credit to LaBlooGirl for mentioning that.)

pitbulllady 11-21-2006 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleLatte (Post 17057)
Glad you brought up that movie. Thing is, Drop Dead Fred was invisible to everyone but this girl. He was more of an extension of herself which she used as an outlet. In contrast, Foster's IF are as real as we are, though they never seem to physically age. If their insides deteriorated with time as PBL stated, how has Uncle Pockets been able to stay alive and kicking after every generation of children he's been through? (credit to LaBlooGirl for mentioning that.)

Just because they can age, doesn't mean that they have to do so at the same rate as us humans do! I mean, if a house fly were to have the intelligence that we do, and look at how long WE live, compared to its species, we would seem to be virtually immortal! And if the same could apply to a Galapagos giant tortoise, it would probably feel sorry of us having such a pitifully brief lifespan! Uncle Pockets has probably for certain outlived his creator, and has seen many other kids grow up and grow old, but that doesn't mean that he will live forever. Some Imaginary Friends, at least, just have much longer lifespans than humans do.

pitbulllady

Cassini90125 11-21-2006 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LaBlooGirl (Post 17054)
LOL 8D That's perfect! I hope you share those "doodles'!
And wouldn't that just make a grand fanfic! XD

"Foster's Retirement Home For Imaginary Friends"? I love it! 8D

CG 11-21-2006 04:50 PM

lol That calls for fanart and/or fanfiction almost immediately. Eduardo with dentures and Wilt in either a wheelchair or with a walking cane.

SkittleMonkey 11-21-2006 05:09 PM

Dang, those would have to be some big, honkin' dentures...

kageri 11-21-2006 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SkittleMonkey (Post 17115)
Dang, those would have to be some big, honkin' dentures...

And one loooong walking cane.

pitbulllady 11-22-2006 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 17109)
lol That calls for fanart and/or fanfiction almost immediately. Eduardo with dentures and Wilt in either a wheelchair or with a walking cane.


That kinda reminds me of Bloo's dream in "Mac Daddy" in which he envisioned himself and Mac as a couple of old fogies with long beards sitting around in rocking chairs, still stuck with Cheese!

pitbulllady

Invader Bloo 11-22-2006 11:46 AM

"Loook what I made":cheesegrin:
I don't think they age dramatically look at wilt or Duchess! Probally over 22 years at Foster's & they don't look different. But they age.

CG 11-22-2006 01:24 PM

Not to mention Uncle Pockets. How old IS that guy??

antgirl1 11-23-2006 01:51 PM

My lord...I have no idea...but older than Wilt, that's for sure!

CG 11-23-2006 05:31 PM

We know now Wilt is 30 years plus at least. And if a little girl who he used to be a friend to is now like, 80 like Madame Foster imagine how old his origional kid is!

podpazie 11-23-2006 05:58 PM

After watching GWH and seeing how Wilt got the wonky eye and stubby arm, it makes me wonder if IFs can be killed, and/or die when their creator dies, since they are an extension of themselves.

I know, morbid, but hey just a thought.

Thornwhistle 11-23-2006 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 17542)
We know now Wilt is 30 years plus at least. And if a little girl who he used to be a friend to is now like, 80 like Madame Foster imagine how old his origional kid is!

In the movie,we all seen who his creater is,and he didn't look that old. I would guess that he might be in his 30s to 40s.

Invader Bloo 11-23-2006 09:55 PM

UP looks older than Wilt, he looks like Herriman's age.

pitbulllady 11-24-2006 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by podpazie (Post 17551)
After watching GWH and seeing how Wilt got the wonky eye and stubby arm, it makes me wonder if IFs can be killed, and/or die when their creator dies, since they are an extension of themselves.

I know, morbid, but hey just a thought.

Coco's creator is probably dead, and yet she is still going on strong. Uncle Pockets' creator is almost certainly dead by now, unless he was created by old Mrs. Tremont(Madame Foster's sitter in "Foster's Goes to Europe"), since she is virtually fossilized! I'm sure that IF's CAN be killed; they have indicated a belief in having an immortal spirit or soul("Blooooooo"), they certainly fear things that can kill them, just as we do. I have little doubt that Jordan knew Wilt would be killed if Larry fell on him completely(instead of just his arm)at the ending of the basketball match-up. They can be injured, permanently, and as Ahnold put it in Predator, "if it bleeds, we can kill it."

Speaking of aging, though, I noticed that Wilt DOES look somehow older now than he did in those flashback scenes. It's not just because he's missing an eye and arm, now, either. There is just this very subtle change to his face, something that was not there in those scenes where he and Jordan were playing ball together in the flashbacks. It's not like he has wrinkles or anything(though if he were "real", there would probably be a few lines and creases that weren't there to begin with), but there is just something. It's true that his anquish and guilt he's carried all those years, not to mention untold physical pain he has to have suffered, could have resulted in those changes, but those things contribute to how fast a HUMAN ages, too-just look at photos of our American Presidents when they went into office and compare them to when they LEFT office, and compare those to an ordinary person's photos taken over the same duration of time.

pitbulllady

Cassini90125 11-24-2006 08:37 AM

Has anyone figured out what Wilt's age really is as of 2006, + or - a year or two? Or any of the other IF's ages, for that matter?

antgirl1 11-24-2006 09:51 AM

What year was he born? :D

Invader Bloo 11-24-2006 10:26 AM

I think Mac was 3 when he created Bloo, so 8-3=5. Bloo's 5...I think

antgirl1 11-24-2006 11:49 AM

No, I meant what year Wilt was born.


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