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Mr. Marshmallow 09-24-2006 12:33 PM

Episode Discussion: Frankie My Dear
 
I think everyone knew this was coming sooner or later :frankiesmile:.

Anyone who knows me knows me posting this episode discussion is something you'd expect from me.

EDIT

Sorry about the mix up and I hope this makes up for it. I personally thought this was a fantastic episode, besides the fact Frankie is more or less the star for once. I thought the idea of actually showing her with a "date" was something I wasn't expecting from the show and enjoyed it.

I also thought Orlando Bloo was a hilarious character to use and it played off Bloo's attitude well. Seeing Frankie in a dress was one of the reasons that hooked me onto her character, it was a big change for her and the results are clearly signifgant. Just ask Bloo and Mac ^^.

Cassini90125 09-24-2006 01:29 PM

Perhaps you might consider starting the discussion? This looks like a "subject-only" thread thus far. ;)

taranchula 09-24-2006 01:30 PM

For me when I think of this episode, I think none other then one of Foster's most defining moments. That's right the famous "dinner date" scene in act three, in which the world was introduced to the ultra charismatic alter ego of Blooregard Q. Kazoo.... Orlando Bloo.

Sure everything leading up to that was pure gold in its own right, but this near eight minuet scene was like a Fort Knox of comedy.

Mr. Marshmallow 09-24-2006 01:36 PM

Check my post out.

I fixed it, sorry again :(.

Cassini90125 09-24-2006 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 7485)
Check my post out.

I fixed it, sorry again :(.

An honest mistake, born of enthusiasm for a worthy subject, don't worry about it. :)

I loved the episode. I especially liked the part at the end where Frankie smacked that loser Dylan upside his face. That, plus we get to see her all dressed up twice. Everyone crushing on her was cute (and who can blame them?), and, of course, there's the debut of Orlando Bloo. What more could you ask for? It was funny and touching, and it's one of my favorite episodes. :frankiesmile:

Mr. Marshmallow 09-24-2006 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 7488)
That, plus we get to see her all dressed up twice. Everyone crushing on her was cute (and who can blame them?)

Here here, I definitely agree with you. I think it was thanks to this episode that my passion and obsession with Frankie truly took root. I think it was here evryone (including Mac and Bloo) realized just how special and hot Frankie was in this episode.

They never realized just what it is to be loved or to love someone and while they are clearly underage, it's no surprise they would cherish her so deeply after she showed them both different sides of her that they never thought possible. Plus, this episode showed Frankie's sweet n'sensitive side better then any other ep.

Kissing Mac for helping with her paperwork, and how she rightuflly kicked her dead beat date upside the head for bashing on her friends. This really showed how big of a heart she has. I really hope we see more of Frankie doing stuff like this, it seems to bring out the best in her and her friends.

Voxxyn 09-24-2006 02:32 PM

I had to restrain myself from cheering wildly when she put that idiot Dylan in his place. It's just refreshing to see an incredibly hot girl that DOESN'T fall for jerks. And it was just terrific to know that, despite how crappy her job is, no matter how uptight Mr. Herriman is on her, and no matter how annoying some of her friends can be--she cares too much about them and the Foster's cause to give it all up just for a boyfriend.

That's true class and, yes, true beauty. Rewatching her in the little black dress, in light of her actions at the very end, only infinitely multiplied my infatuation with her physical beauty and admiration for her wonderful personality. Simply put, I love her. :-*

And of course, the comedy was great. Not just Orlando Bloo; the entire episode was just "on" from start to finish.

kageri 09-25-2006 01:36 PM

Definitely one of my favorites; although it was cute how she was all nervous before her date, it was so great to see that Frankie cares much more about her friends than romance, especially since a lot of female cartoon characters are stereotypical in that way. And it was also cute how everyone was crushing on her, and it was also cute seeing her in her little black dress. Actually, this episode is pretty much just cute all-around.

Dylan really blew it.

BlooCheese 09-25-2006 03:10 PM

One of my favorite episodes! I absolutely loved it. Not only was it humorous, but it still taught a good moral. And it showed how awesome Frankie is, not that she isn't of course.

Medikor 09-25-2006 04:48 PM

This episode was wepons grade! It had the laughs, the beutie, and the introduction of a great running gag. This was one of the first episodes I ever watched. And I became hooked on Frankie when she said she was 22. I'm the same age, so it made me relate to her in that way. And I also fell in love with her too. Well, as in love with a cartoon as is possable without loosing grip on reality. But who need's reality anyway.8D

Mr. Marshmallow 09-25-2006 05:57 PM

I can't help but nod and jump for joy as I agree with absolutely everything you guys are saying! I don't think this episode is aired enough, nor do the creators realize just what an amazing and deep impact it has had on all of us.

Frankie's shyness was absolutely adorable, I fell in love with her in seconds after seeing that. The dresses were just superb. It was a genius idea to reveal Frankie is actually a fox, considering how we usually see her dressed.

Clothes don't make the man but they sure do flatter the female. Mac being lovey dovey over Frankie was very cute, and as sick as this may sound, very believeable in my book. Younger kids often find attraction with adults.

They might not know any better, but at least this time you can tell that they had good tastes :).

Kzinistzerg 09-25-2006 06:34 PM

Yeah, i've seen people in my class (year) being all mooshy over much older people. I've never expirienced it but it's understandable. *shakes fist at hormones*

From what i've seen, this episode looks like pretty much best ever... can someone PLEASE uplod it to Youtube or somewhere else?

billytheskink 09-26-2006 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 7651)
Mac being lovey dovey over Frankie was very cute, and as sick as this may sound, very believeable in my book. Younger kids often find attraction with adults.

Not sick at all, but, as you said very believable. I worked at an elementary school several years back, saw such things all the time.

"Frankie My Dear" was a great episode. Funny, compelling; one of my favorites. I seem to recall anticipating it quite a bit, probably more than I've anticipated any other Foster's.

I was quite amused that Dylan (that was his name, was it not?) looked an awful lot like Sam Hornish Jr.
I've also discovered that I'm the only one amused by this.

Cassini90125 09-26-2006 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by billytheskink (Post 7725)
Not sick at all, but, as you said very believable. I worked at an elementary school several years back, saw such things all the time.

What kid hasn't had a crush on a teacher or other adult at some time? I know I did, once or twice. I thought Mac's was cute, too. :)

Medikor 09-26-2006 08:39 AM

And besides: What sain person wouldant develope a crush on Frankie?8D I can't wait to see this episode again. It was so funny.

Voxxyn 09-27-2006 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 7651)
Frankie's shyness was absolutely adorable

That, in my opinion, is what I think is at the core of what makes her a great character. Even in an episode like this, where it's easy for the crush to be portrayed as completely larger-than-life, we still get to see her human side.

Frankie seems to have a very vulnerable air to her character, which is very unlike many female cartoon girls that can be deemed attractive. And I can't help but love her for that. I'd hug her, not only because she's so freaking cute, but also because sometimes she looks like she really needs a hug.

Seeing as how underappreciated she is and the very unglamorous nature of her role(Especially considering what they unfortunately chose for her next starring role), we should be thankful that this episode was made in the first place. I just hope that future Frankie episodes will do justice to her character, like this and "Setting A President" did.

Medikor 09-28-2006 07:30 AM

IT is like they put a lot of work into Frankie. Was she intended to be such a fleshed-out character, or was that just the result of this great episode? Either way, they struck gold.:D

Voxxyn 09-28-2006 11:39 AM

Well, the early concept drawings of Frankie on the production blog indicate that she was going to be a COMPLETELY different character from what we now know and love. It seems that, at one point, she was going to be as evil as Vicky from The Fairly OddParents--and perhaps that explains the striking resemblance between both.

Let's just say I'm glad that they radically changed her for the final and current design. While I appreciate learning about the origins of my favorite characters, I see very little of what makes the current Frankie such a wonderful character in those concept drawings.

Medikor 09-28-2006 11:59 AM

Well, I heard that Frankie is based off of Lauren Faust. So maybe she didan't want her to be mean and nasty.8D

Mr. Marshmallow 09-28-2006 01:54 PM

According to Internet Movie Database, Frankie is loosely based on Lauren Faust. Which probably means that there may only be one connection like with her hair or her clothes or something like that.

When things are loosely tied in it means not a whole lot. I'm sure majority of Frankie's creation was made up originally, but they probably just threw in (or maybe Faust did) an aspect be it personality or clothes into her being.

Medikor 09-28-2006 03:06 PM

What ever it was, it worked.:D

Voxxyn 09-28-2006 03:22 PM

In any case, the Frankie that we now have is a very wonderful character, and one of the best animated gals in a long time.

The fact that she can be shy and nervous, even when being incredibly hot in a way that many real-life tabloid-hogging "celebrities" WISH they could, shows just how refreshing and loveable she truly is.

frankie_fan 10-07-2006 10:54 PM

Hi guys. I'm new here.

I love that episode!! When I first heard Orlando Bloo, I started laughing!! That was a classic. Also Frankie beating the crap out of Dylan (although we never got to see it!).

That pink outfit she wore... :-* That was something!!!

Cassini90125 10-07-2006 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by frankie_fan (Post 9637)
That pink outfit she wore... :-* That was something!!!

You know, it suddenly occurred to me that I'm not sure which of her outfits I liked more, the pink and violet set or the black dress. I like her everyday outfit best of all, but of the other two... no, I'm not sure at all. She looked great in both, I know that! :frankiesmile:

Mr. Marshmallow 10-07-2006 11:22 PM

I pick the black dress. The black one was a bit more....revealing and at the same time, it still kept her original hair style more or less. While I liked her new hair for the pink dress, I still like her old style the best no matter what.

The pink one really just seemed like a means of showing a "new" look to Frankie, where was the black one seemed like the Frankie we know and love, just a bit "fancied up" so to speak. But either way, Frankie makes ANYTHING look hot :frankiesmile:.

Medikor 10-08-2006 05:49 AM

Even that cute green dress she had to wear. She made that look great too.:D

Mr. Marshmallow 10-08-2006 09:02 AM

I think you are referring to that green dress Frankie had to wear for "The Big Picture", which I totally agree. She made that dress look totally adorable and I thought the green bow in her hair only made it look cuter.

It's amazing how much of a change can occur when you wear the same outfit 24/7, and then you try something new and everyone goes gaa gaa over you. Which is funny because most people get mad at that kind of thing.

Most girl characters on TV shows get upset when they try a new outfit and everyone drools over her, and they wonder "wasn't I hot before?". But Frankie, being the sweet thing that she is, didn't have a problem with that at all.

She didn't care that Mac or Bloo never showed her any kind of attraction affection in her regular outfit. And when she came down in her new outfit and they were in "bug eyed land", she said they were sweet and sounded just fine.

That really shows you what kind of a good willed individual she is.

Medikor 10-08-2006 10:55 AM

Well, she was probobly looking (Or at least hopeing) for a comment from them at that point. She dosen't often dress up, but I guess even Frankie needs to be told she's pretty once in a while.:D

Invader Bloo 10-08-2006 11:28 AM

Don't you mean real life too Marshmallow? :P

Sparky 10-08-2006 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 9683)
Most girl characters on TV shows get upset when they try a new outfit and everyone drools over her, and they wonder "wasn't I hot before?".

Not just on TV; I have the same reaction myself. I especially get annoyed whenever someone comments that I look like I've lost weight, and even if I *did* lose weight I see it as an insult, like they're saying I was ugly last time they saw me. Just clarifying that this is a genuine, common female reaction to a compliment. 8D

One Radical Dude 10-08-2006 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 9745)
Not just on TV; I have the same reaction myself. I especially get annoyed whenever someone comments that I look like I've lost weight, and even if I *did* lose weight I see it as an insult, like they're saying I was ugly last time they saw me. Just clarifying that this is a genuine, common female reaction to a compliment. 8D

I've been guilty of saying "you look like you've lost weight." :wiltshock: I didn't think of that being insulting.

This is easily my favorite season two episode. Oh, man, who doesn't love Orlando Bloo? 8D This is also still my favorite episode Frankie had a significant role in. :frankiesmile:

Voxxyn 10-08-2006 10:09 PM

She looked quite good in that pink-purple dress with her hair down. It was a bit of a change from her usual look, but it definitely worked for the time she appeared in it.

However, my heart will forever be surrendered to her in the little black dress. Put simply, SHE'S HOT. It was very revealing--and yet she was just plain lovely in it, instead of sleazy or gratitious.

Medikor 10-09-2006 12:00 PM

Frankie's just classy that way. But she certanly know's how to wow us when she want's to.

kageri 10-10-2006 02:16 PM

I'm not that surprised that she wasn't offended by Mac and Bloo's drooling over her new outfit -- her normal one covers a lot more and is probably less brand-new-sparkly-clean than the LBD (it deserves an acronym now) or the pink-and-purple outfit, from all the work she has to do. Plus, as mentioned before, she's just cool like that.

Still, both the LBD and the pink-and-purple ensemble (anyone else get Daphne vibes from that one? Anybody?) were puuurrdyyy. Frankie looks really good in hanging bangly things, like the earrings.

.....and am I alone in finding Bloo lifting weights to be really, really funny?

Medikor 10-10-2006 03:49 PM

No. It was funny. It's probobly likely that they were toy weights too.:D I don't think Bloo could manage anything more then a plastic, half ounce toy.8D

Kzinistzerg 10-12-2006 03:22 PM

Wow. I saw this one: I was practically on the floor rolling when orlando bloo came in.

I
LOVE
ORLANDO
BLOO.

And frankie was awesome.

Mr. Marshmallow 10-12-2006 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 9866)
However, my heart will forever be surrendered to her in the little black dress. Put simply, SHE'S HOT. It was very revealing--and yet she was just plain lovely in it, instead of sleazy or gratitious.

I feel exactly the same way about that dress.

Cassini90125 10-12-2006 05:24 PM

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...i90125/LBD.jpg

Not an exact match, but not too bad. The "Wedding Scenario" referred to was for two non-Foster's Sims; Frankie was on the guest list. :frankiesmile:

Partymember 12-06-2006 12:51 PM

(bangs head against wall) i haven't seen it yet, and i'm bending my will to psychicly force CN to air it. Bend........to......my.....WILL....urghhhhhh!

Mr. Marshmallow 12-06-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Partymember (Post 20939)
(bangs head against wall) i haven't seen it yet, and i'm bending my will to psychicly force CN to air it. Bend........to......my.....WILL....urghhhhhh!

You;'ll be banging your head till a hole opens up then Party. For some gay reason, Frankie's episodes come on about as often as a lunar eclipse.

"Setting a president" is done the exact same way. But back to this Frankie episode, let me say this is like the HOLY GRAIL of Frankie fans.

Or at least I think so, the dresses alone are worth watching.


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