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Other Favorite Cartoons
Obviously everyone on here loves Foster's, and it's at least in your top 5 otherwise you wouldn't really be on this board :bloocross:. Anyways, my question is what are your other favorite cartoons?
Old ones, new ones, current ones? Any cartoon you love today or the ones you grew up with as a child and are waiting ANGRILY for the DVD company to pump them out on seasonal DVD sets. So other then Foster's, what other cartoon shows do you love? |
Bugs Bunny / Road Runner etc.
Scooby Doo Sailor Moon Fat Albert South Park Drawn Together Family Guy Beavis and Butt-Head The Maxx |
Wow! What a question!
In no particular order: Daffy Duck Mr Rossi Dexter's Laboratory Powerpuff Girls Wattoo-Wattoo Beavis and Butthead The Simpsons Futurama Duckman King of the hill Family Guy American Dad Chilly Willy Grim & Evil / Billy & Mandy Chorlton and the wheelies (plasticine) Samurai Jack Star Wars- Clone Wars South Park Bugs Bunny Pepe Le Pew Anything by Bill Plympton Felix the cat And I'll wager there's loads more I've forgotten ! |
Looney Tunes
The Simpsons Futurama South Park Robot Chicken Invader ZIM SpongeBob SquarePants Hey Arnold Dexter's Laboratory Courage the Cowardly Dog Sheep in the Big City Evil Con Carne Time Squad Samurai Jack Star Wars: Clone Wars |
And now for my "legendary" list, legendary in the sense is that's how important these cartoons have been to my life:
Darkwing Duck Gargoyles Bonkers Animaniacs Tale Spin Biker Mice from Mars The Tick X-men (90's version) Spider-man Batman: AS Batman Beyond Twisted tales of Felix the Cat Bump in the Night Sonic the Hedgehog (SATam) Attack of the Killer Tomatoes Beast Wars Godzilla: The Series The Mighty Ducks Mad Jack the pirate Oggy and the Cockroaches Tiny Toons The Critic Family Guy Drawn Together Teen Titans Ben 10 Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Stickin' Around Chip N'Dale Rescue Rangers Freakazoid! Earthworm Jim Extreme Ghostbusters Ren and Stimpy Beavis and Butt-head Kim Possible And last but CERTAINLY not least.... Captain Bucky O'Hare and the Toad Wars!!! |
I think my otehr faves were Family Guy, South Park, Futurama, Pinky and the Brain, and Ren& Stimpy.
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My top 5 all-time would include DuckTales (all-time favorite), Foster's, Animaniacs, Histeria!, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (the first series).
Elsewhere, there's almost too many to count... So I'll list the shows I REALLY like. Among older shows: The Flintstones, Freakazoid, Talespin, Recess, Doug (on Nickelodeon), Speed Racer, Super Friends, Rocko's Modern Life, Among newer shows: Funky Cops, Family Guy, Perfect Hair Forever, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Dora the Explorer, Gerald McBoing Boing, Clifford the Big Red Dog, Arthur. I'll watch most any cartoon (at least give 'em a chance). I've watched everything from Johnny Test to Clutch Cargo, so I don't limit myself to what I've listed. I've stomached some bad shows in the process, though. |
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Originally I just watched Teen Titans and only briefly glanced at shows like Powerpuff Girls, and Codename: Kids Next Door. But after trying out a few toons, I find I am impressed at how dam good they can be. Some of my newer favorite shows have come from this. I got into Kim Possible, Foster's, Brandy and Mr. Whiskers,Totally Spies and other shows like this. At this moment, I'm finding myself oddly drawn into watching W.I.T.C.H which I totally wrote off as a sappy girl hero show. But I'm finding some really good elements in the show and I'm starting to get sucked into it a bit. Of course, there are still some toon shows that I just can't bring myself to watch and can't find anything really likeable about them. Shows like My Gym Partner's a Monkey, Ed Edd and Eddie, Billy and Mandy, and Squirrel Boy are not my cup of tea. |
I definitely understand what you mean by that last sentence. I used to be a big EE&E fan, but the show became so evil and hurtful that I stopped watching. Billy & Mandy is fine once in a while, but the crude humor is a really huge turn off for me--and I just plain don't like how Mandy, instead of Frankie, is considered by the mainstream media and most animation fans as Grey DeLisle's 'trademark' character.
My Gym Partner's A Monkey, no comment needed here. |
The only thing I find funny about Billy and Mandy is the fact what the Grim Reaper has a jamaican accent, and that's just funny in and of itself. But other then that I don't really care for the show. Gym Partner just sucks if you ask me, I honestly couldn't find anything to really like about the show.
But what REALLY bugs me is that half of my favorite toons were canned to make way for some of these stupid toons. Teen Titans and Justice League Unlimited were cancelled to make way for more "cartoony cartoons" as Cartoon Network put it. They felt the DC toons were taking em in a wrong direction. Which upsets me because you don't have to have a toony cartoon show to be a good network. CN already had Foster's home as one of their primary shows, and it's obviously their biggest seller so far otherwise they wouldn't be parading the show so much in the ads and the commercial breaks. They didn't even mention Teen Titans or JL's "new episodes" in the commercials, they would only air them SECONDS before the actual episode comes on. Where as Nartuo they remind you 50 times that a new episode is coming up every day of the week. |
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Hope it's true, I want to see Tuna Mountain up close. CN has their hits and misses with their original cartoons. Billy and Mandy and Gym Partner are in the category of cartoons I can stomach. If they are all that is on and I really want to see a cartoon, then I might watch. I like the way Kid's Next Door is drawn (reminiscent of Pepper-Ann) and I like the concept, it's often poorly executed though. Quote:
First show outside of Foster's that I think of when I hear Grey Delisle's name is Clifford the Big Red Dog. |
I am just going to do my top 5's (because I love A LOT of Cartoons cartoons)
American: Gargoyles The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy Ed Edd 'n' Eddy Batman: The Animated Series Animaniacs Anime: Ranma 1/2 One Piece Serial Expriements Lain FullMetal Alchemist (I got a tattoo from that series) Tenchi Muyo |
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But you probabaly already knew that. |
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But I never mind a reminder. |
I never liked that animation style to be honest, I'm less much of a fan towards Pepper Ann then I am to Kids Next Door. One of the main reasons is that it's thanks to shows like Pepper Ann that all of my fav. disney toons got canned.
Shows like Recess, Doug, and Pepper Ann kicked out the likes of Mighty Ducks, Darkwing Duck, and pretty much all the good old disney afternoon toons and shows before them. |
Heeey... I like Recess AND Doug. Only, the version of Doug you're probably talking about is that crappy new series they came out with after Doug's First Movie. The older version was on Nick for a veeery long time. Recess, however, I have no excuses for. I just like it, 'nuff said.
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I don't know about the rest of you, but as far as Disney cartoons go, the only one I watched on a regular basis was "Kim Possible", and I really, really miss that show. :bloosad:
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I don't get to watch a lot of TV. But I do watch Foster's whenever I come across a TV with Cartoon Network, and on Fridays, I watch South Park, and during dinner, I watch The Simpsons. So I guess those are my favorite cartoons.
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I heard a while ago that actually Kim Possible had gotten a renewal in their contract, and that they already have plans for the series to continue. It was stated also however that it would take time. |
That would make me extremely happy. Did you see either of the KP movies? I thought they were fantastic; so much so that I eventually went out and bought the DVD's. :)
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(largely thanks to Disney policy that limited animated shows to 56 episodes) The addition of shows based off of Disney films (Aladdin, 101 Dalmations) took the place of most of the TDA's early favorites (Talespin, DuckTales, Darkwing) in the block's later years. The Disney Afternoon and its shows had a good run, though. 9 years. There has not been anything much like it since, I guess it just didn't make money for the networks. Now I love the old Disney Afternoon shows, and I love the old pre-Disney ABC saturday morning lineup (Bump in the Night, ReBoot) and I was sad to see them removed from the air. But the shows that replaced them deserve to be judged on their own merit. I liked Recess, I liked Pepper-Ann. Disney's Doug was a huge dissapointment (after the Nicktoon had been a favorite of mine). I tried to watch those shows with an open mind, and found myself enyoying some of them in spite of the shows that were lost in their wake. But what goes around comes around. Pepper Ann, Doug, and even Recess vanished in the wake of Kim Possible, reruns of Disney Channel live action garb, etc. It's a life cycle. Similarly, I wasn't happy to see Animaniacs, Earthworm Jim, Freakazoid, Histeria!, etc. leave KidsWB only to be replaced by Pokemon, Cardcaptors, Yu-Gi-Oh, Batman Begins, and Detention. I gave all those a chance, and I liked some of them (like the Zeta Project, or more recently, Xiolin Showdown), hated others. I miss the old shows, but they can't last forever, and the new shows aren't at fault for the change (as much as I'd love to blame anime). Or in other words, blame Michael Eisner, not his lackeys (or their work)... |
I don't blame shows for leaving, I was never upset for Animaniacs or Tale Spin, Reboot, etc. They all had a very good run and had enough time to do what they wanted to do. But alot of those good shows were cut down in their prime.
Freakazoid and Earthworm Jim for examples were very adultish, modern day toons that were never really given the chance to shine for very long. Darkwing Duck pisses me off the most because it was doing well, they even had a 4th season planned for the show a very BIG 4th season. That's what upsets me, that show had enough potential and popularity to go on longer. And it's not so much as me being upset the toons got cancelled, but more or less WHY they got cancelled. Freakazoid was too early (Family Guy styled) type comedy to be understood by kids, and I understand that. But most of those Disney Afternoon shows were canned simply because disney was going in a "new direction" with Eisener and Recess and etc. The shows were not that great if you ask me, particuarly Recess. But it's more or less on the reasons why they got canned that bothers me. What makes a good cartoon is one that can apply to everyone, and this mostly lies in the dialouge and script work. Kim Possible, Foster's, and even Ying Yang Yoi have fresh, original, and downright crazy dialouge that works on a much more adult level. I especially saw this in Kim Possible. The way Ron Stoppable spoke like a true teen, using slangs for everything, even slangs that didn't exist. Or Dr. Drakken, who in and of himself is a brilliant cartoon villain, he had some AMAZING lines. I remember there was a Christmas episode and he was getting off track during one of his bad guy speeches.. Drakken: "Soon the world will be mine and all the money, and riches, and those who flangers and who trumplets and" Shego: "Doctor D, you've stopped using real words" |
Darkwing Duck was out of production long before Recess and Pepper Ann were in production. The last new episode of Darkwing Duck aired in late 1992, Pepper Ann and Recess debuted in late 1997.
If anything replaced Darkwing Duck production in Disney's studios, it'd be Goof Troop, Bonkers, and/or Aladdin; which all were released within 3 years of the last DD. Now, the Mighty Ducks may have died in favor of Recess, Doug, and Pepper Ann and that is unfortunate. But it isn't unprecedented and certainly isn't the fault of those who created the new shows. Networks move in new directions all the time. It's just TV business. Now, I thought Recess was applicable to most folks(even to me), Recess is something that most American kids have experienced. Reminded me of all the fun I had with my friends on the elementary school playground with all sorts of silly, quirky, and exaggerated things thrown in. There was made up slang in Recess as well... For what that's worth. |
I kinda like Totally Spies; on CN I watch only Foster's. There's only 1 anime I watch, but only if I have the time: Shaman King. I think it's a cool and funny show, and it's not all about fighting like Dragonball and other garbage.
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Try telling that to Fox and Matt Groening. 8D |
I'll just post my favourite shows as I see the discussion is getting more specific. I absolutely adore cartoons and my favourites are Courage TCD, Ed, Edd and Eddie, Grim and Mandy (though I've seen a few of those), PPG and Simpsons I guess but the old ones.
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Darkwing Duck was still being planned to release more stuff, every where I've looked a 4th season is constantly referred to and even episode titles and plans for certain characters to return. Plus the ending of one of the episodes in the 3rd season clearly sets it up.
Just because businesses go in "new directions" that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to be one everyone likes. Pepper Ann and those shows were of an entirely different breed of cartoon then the likes of Bonkers, Goof Troop, and the others. Which is one of the reasons I dislike Eisner. Neither Darkwing nor any of those afternoon shows had any bad ratings, Darkwing wouldn't have been preparing a 4th season if the ratings said they were bad. Disney's toons are nothing like they used to be, everyone knows that cartoons of today don't match up as good as the toons from back then. And by today I am referring to "majority" of new toons. |
Actually, I can't stand KND's animation (the enormous, balloonish hands and feet and impossibly skinny limbs, I think), but I'm just weird.
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kageri is rite.
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Disliking the folks who made the decision to kill the Disney Afternoon (etc.) I can understand. Of course, Eisner was also in charge back when the Disney Afternoon was born. Today's cartoons vs. yesteryear's cartoons is rarely an objective debate. There's folks who don't undertand why we like that old 1990's junk. There's folks who'll say that cartoons have gone downhill since production of Silly Symphonies stopped. There's folks who have no idea how you can watch anything not drawn in Japan. Not "everyone knows" that cartoons of today can't compare to cartoons of the past. I've found that most folks (regardless of age) seem to believe that the "golden age" of cartoons occured during the era in which they grew up. Makes sense... |
It's a generalization, not a literal term. It's just something a person can not only hear from others but also see with expierence, the more shows you see the more you compare as you live through the years and think about things as they go by. Things were different back with older cartoons.
I'm not talking Japanese or other culture, I'm talking about the toons we saw and felt back then and how we see and feel them now. It's amazing to think how much older cartoons were capable of getting away with and saying and doing. How sometimes the smallest things can be the most important when you realize there taken away. Eisner may have been here since Afternoon, but one thing that is a fact is his outcome with Disney was not a good one, nor with the general public mostly. I don't hate the new toons because I like the old ones, I hate simply the basis on why it's removed. Like with Teen Titans and and Justice League, perfect example. Teen Titans was not a poorly rated show and it (along with JL) was cancelled when Cartoon Network stated they wanted more "cartoon" cartoons. If a show is doing good and it is not sagging in the ratings, no matter how business ethnic related or reasonable it sounds, canning them for different "directions" isn't fair to the fans. Putting a show on TV and having people create a fan base, favorite characters, and grow so attached to them, it's a terrible feeling to hear that there being pushed out simply because of a difference in directional approaches. To them, it's a show, it's a product that they sell and distribute. But people live off these cartoons and it matters alot to them, some more then even I can describe. Alot of the things and expierences in my life have been through TV shows and cartoons, and knowing the impact they have on you can make you feel crummy knowing that may have been dumped over such an issue as direction. I never liked Pepper Ann or Recess, but that has nothing to do with how they came about, I dislike them because I watched them and I didn't get hooked, fair and simple. I just get mad at how sometimes shows are dumped and I have to wonder, do they really realize the effect this will have on some people? |
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Nevertheless, I have better things to do than stay dissapointed, there is plenty of animation out there to enjoy. It's better that our favorites existed in the first place than if they hadn't existed at all. |
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That's how I found out about the 4th season for Darkwing Duck and even a possible crossover between him and Rescue Rangers. It's in those areas of information I find fans of the show sharing similar feelings of anger that they see what shows are replacing them. I simply refer to people I have talked with. Quote:
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Money comes and goes, quality TV that sticks with you the rest of your life is hard to come by. And I never said stay disappointed, but disappointment doesn't hurt to be expressed even if it was a long while ago. Recent events or situations can always stir up memories you never thought you'd bring up again. I am glad that they existed. But being a writer and someone who constantly can't help but imagine about the possibilities of any person, TV show, band, movie, comic book etc. One can't help but wonder if the thing or person you lost might have been capable of so much more then you expierenced. I'm not saying let it consume you, and I'm not saying dread and mope about it the rest of your life, I'm just saying it's worth thinking about what could have been. |
All good thoughts. Seems we're argueing (if you can call it that, eh?) over my misinterpretation of what you said, or your saying something you didn't mean. Maybe a little of both.
Then the discussion just grows from there. But that's why I like talking with you... Darkwing and Rescue Rangers crossover? Interesting. You have any more info on that? I'd love to read up on it. DuckTales and Talespin were my favorites in the TDA lineup, though. I remember watching Talespin with my grandfather, he enjoyed it because he was a pilot. There's a cartoon you won't see anything like anymore. Guns are pretty much taboo in kid's cartoons (even war-related ones, like Liberty's Kids, draw their scenes around the violence). The occasional appearance of Lorenzo Music or Hal Smith's voicework in Talespin nearly brings a tear to my eye. I'd trade the life of any cartoon to have those guys back... Guess I got off track there, but hey, it's fun. |
No see, it's that kind of classic stuff that I miss. I mean consider this: Disney actually allowed use of characters dying, guns, bullets, Satan, AND actually saying the word "dead" on their shows. They get away with more stuff then Teen Titans did in their entire run.
No laser guns, no "destroy me" crap, these shows were quality made with clever, adult linted humor and voice actors that are irreplacable. From Baloo to Scrooge Mcduck to even the Gummi Bears, these shows had quality voice actors that made an ever lasting impression with these roles, or at least i felt so. I wouldn't consider this an argument actually billy, compared to the other discussions I've had this would be considered preschool stuff. I've been in some HEATED and HELLISH arguments before. In regards to the Rescue Rangers thing, here's what I found out: There was an episode that more or less set this crossover idea up. In an episode called "Twitching Channels" Darkwing and Megavolt are zapped into "Our world". Meaning humans, RL, where Darkwing's life runs on a TV show and the guy that owns his show in this world is this pompus, blonde haired rich type snob. He reveals this invention called an "idea helmet". A device that was supposed to inspire people, but when he used it he got zapped and started receiving radio transmission from Darkwing's world. He uses the knowledge of the transmissions to create the episodes in the RL world, Darkwing eventually realizes he and Megavolt can get back through the helmet. At the end, they are zapped back and the company president thinks he's ruined. But when one of his assitants puts his ear to the fried helmet, they receive transmissions from Rescue Rangers including ACTUAL dialouge from the likes of Chip, Dale, and Monterary Jack. The guy hears them say Rescue rangers away and then he says "Rescue Rangers, hey, now there's a cartoon show!". Darkwing's season 4 was planning on doing a crossover with Darkwing after they had successfully brought over not only Launchpad from Duck Tales, but also Gizmo Duck and FOWL. FOWL (Fiendish organization for world larceny) was a Duck Tales villain syndicate that was transferred over to Darkwing. Other season 4 plans included tying up the loose ends with the newly resurrected cyborg Taraus Bulba (from the pilot) and bringing back 2 other villains for future plans. Those villains included the "original" Negaduck that was Darkwing's negative side made out of living energy, and Paddywhack (voiced by Phil Hartman) a skeletal clown like duck ghoul that lived inside a jack in the box and possesed Quackerjack's inanimate stuffed toy, Mr. Banana Brain. All these were issues they would have covered in season 4, and they were obvious plans laid out for it in the show, watch the episode "The Steerminator" and you'll see exactly what I mean. |
Fascinating stuff Mr. M. It's a shame that such a crossover never came to be.
Makes me want to resume my search for the Darkwing Duck video game, it's not easy to find... Cartoons today seem to be able to get away with a lot more than they used to (like adult swim or some of those Japanese shows), or not nearly as much as they used to (most any kid's show). There's not much middle ground, even with cartoons aimed at folks between childhood and adulthood. I wonder if that is the reason Toon Disney thrusts older shows into the wee morning... |
Adult Swim's cartoons are designed to shock and awe us, there here to use adult related humor to make us laugh. They were created for that purpose alone. What shocked me about toons like from Disney was that being designed for children, it's amazing at what was so "dark" about some of their content.
Tale Spin had a character actually lined up for a firing squad, Darkwing Duck has someone sell his soul to a an animated version of Satan, hell in Pokemon the main character DIED and was a ghost during an episode and Pokemon is about as tame as anime as you can get. The trouble is older cartoons were able to get away with more due to their child like nature thanks to the fact we didn't have so many anal restrictions and guidelines. The cartoon "The Tick" was about as adult as you can get, half the jokes in there are more along the lines of Family Guy level weird humor then kiddie friendly. Alot of toons are adapting anime-esque styles into their shows like Witch, Totally Spies, Teen Titans, and even The Batman. What's nice about Foster's is that it not only is incporating an entirely new way of making a TV series, an original storyline (something I still haven't seen for a long ass time). But most importantly it has SHARP writing, it has powerful enough dialouge, and vareity in humor. Very few modern day toons that I have seen have been truly original and witty in their designs of the story, characters, and dialouge. The only ones that have come to mind are Foster's and Kim Possible. |
Yes, that sharp writing is one of the big things I love about Foster's. It's original, it's witty, it's ENTERTAINING. Whether it's Bloo drawing a straw or the occasional Star Wars parody quote, Foster's uses a broad range of humor and I love that. Dry, childish, simple, absurd, random... It all works so well.
Now, I love the Animaniacs (and Pinky and the Brain and Histeria!) for it's dry, sarcastic humor. I have yet to see a show match it (the Tick and Freakazoid were close, The Fairly Odd Parents has the very occasional moment where it nears such sarcastic brilliance). Those shows got some of the adults I knew out of bed early on saturday mornings and watching TV, they loved them. Watching those shows now is great, kind of like watching them for the first time. Realizing the Pinky and the Brain episode "Meet John Brain" is a biting parody of Ross Perot's 1992 presidential campaign is just refreshing for some reason (maybe because I always liked that election in history class). I really enjoy the simple humor of cartoons aimed at small children, not sure why. Sometimes I just like to laugh at the silly things in them (Dora the Explorer had an episode where she asks the viewers to help her boat jump over some sharks, I get it!), or I just really appreciate a simple joke. But yeah, good writing and good humor is not in abundance these days, on all of television really. Nothing new, I guess. |
Simple humor is hard for me to enjoy in a kid's show like seeing someone flattened or blown up, it's lost it's edge a bit as I've grown older. But stupid things still make me laugh. Practically everything said and done on Family Guy, Freakazoid, and Robot Chicken requires little brain power.
Other times it's the remarks and the lines the characters say that make them so enjoyable. I remember one time in Darkwing Duck he was trying to teach his daughter, Gosalyn, the difference between real life and what happens in cartoons (their cartoons anyway). And he got smacked by this bad guy and flattened like a pancake and I'll never forget what he said, as he groaned in pain: "Normally a cartoon character would spring back and say yahoo, yipee, or something like that....I on the other hand am expierencing pain like you wouldn't believe". I just loved that line. Which reminds me of a REAL good cartoon, a fine example of physical comedy in toons that I did laugh at: Super Dave. Thet old cartoon show about the stunt man who was bashed, beaten, broken, bruised or blown up every 5 seconds and everything he said was pain related. "Okay kids, count how many of my fingers aren't broken" That show was ;D great. |
By simple humor I also meant puns and visual gags that even toodlers can laugh at. I love that stuff.
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