Your Top Five Least Favorite Episodes
 

1.) Emancipation Complication
2.) Setting A President
3.) Cuckcoo For Coco Cards
4.) Bye Bye Nerdy
5.) When There's A Wilt, There's A Way/ Everyone Knows It's Bendy

1. Imposter's Home For, Um... Make 'Em Up Pals ~ A vile and traumatic mess. A callous insult to Frankie and her fans. A complete disgrace to Foster's.

2. Where There's A Wilt There's A Way ~ Just like "Imposter's"--same writer, same long-winded title, same unwarranted cruel treatment of sympathetic and beloved characters.

3. Foster's Goes To Europe ~ Basically a mish-mash of inconsistent scenes and gags assembled together under a very basic premise... up until the ending, which is brutally coldblooded and absolutely disgraceful on part of the entire crew. Eurotrish was an entertaining one-shot character, and the fact she manages to return home might be considered as the saving grace--except she gets cynically mocked and rejected in the ending credits. Yes, they definitely weren't trying to hurt people's feelings... :jk:

4. I Only Have Surprise For You ~ The meanspirited nature of this episode took a while to kick in for me, but once it did, it stung pretty badly. Like with the other listed episodes, the writers completely misunderstand conflict and making characters "suffer for their art". It's funny to see the egocentric, larger-than-life Looney Tunes cast endure extreme physical pain--but it is NOT funny to see a sympathetic and wholesome kid like Mac become psychologically traumatized over what should be a day of joy and happiness.

5. Phone Home - This had a very promising storyline and setup -- Bloo envying Wilt and his heroic achievements -- that really deserved it's own half-hour episode. Ironically, though, it didn't even bother to make proper use of it's 11-minute runtime, as it derailed with the annoyingly obvious saga of Cell Phone Guy. The Groucho Marx chicken was cool, at least.

Additionally, I find it almost impossible to get into any episode in which Frankie is absent or only makes a blink-and-miss-it background appearance("The Big Leblooski", "Eddie Monster", "One False Movie", "Infernal Slumber" and "Make-Believe It Or Not"). They definitely aren't bad episodes because of it, but for me at least, the show loses a lot of color and warmth without Frankie.

I had a feeling that it was only a matter of time before someone posted a topic like this...the evil cousin of the Top 10 Fave Episodes thread, if you will. :scaryberry: You many notice that I've bashed out another monstrously long post, and I'm sorry about that (is that OK? :(); this wasn't so enjoyable to write, either.

Now, these aren't in any order, nor are they actually my picks for "worst episodes" per se - there are one or two that I think are actually worse than some of the ones I've picked. These are just episodes with which I have specific problems that I want to highlight.

Adoptcalypse Now

This episode had its moments (notably, Herriman's realisation that he doesn't wear any pants), but I feel the writers really miscalculated in their assumption that I could sympathise with Mac and Bloo's efforts to sabotage Adopt-A-Thought Saturday. I've always loved the poignancy of the Foster's concept, which was evoked very well at the end of "Good Wilt Hunting"; Foster's is really like an orphanage, a place for lost and abandoned friends to stay until they can find a loving family, and another chance at happiness both fr themselves and for their child. Wilt even says as much in this episode when he's reprimanding Bloo for his actions, but he and Mac, in their self-serving quest to ruin the day, simply ignore him. Obviously the audience is supposed to do the same, but I just couldn't.

My So-Called Wife

It feels a little harsh to include this episode in this list, because it did make me laugh a few times, but the fact is I was really disappointed by how this one turned out. There's a Chinese proverb I learned that really summed up how I felt about this episode - "to paint legs on a snake", ie to ruin something by adding things which are superfluous. The central premise, of the stuffy Mr Herriman having to give the insane Coco the My Fair Lady treatment to pass her off as his wife, is fantastic, but the writers seemed unable to follow it through, instead adding a huge host of entirely extraneous additional plotlines and twists (Bloo's sarcasm lessons, Mac and Bloo inexplicably deciding to crash the party, the ludicrous millionaire games plotline, Mr Factor turning out to be a conman) that gave us a few laughs but completely compromised any narrative coherency, and also rendering the great central plotline practically irrelevant. Coco doesn't get many showcase episodes, and I was sad to see how this one was hijacked. :(

Imposter's Home For Um...Make' Em Up Pals

I wrote a very long analysis of exactly what I thought went wrong with the infamous "Imposter's..." in the "Goofball John Magee" topic on the "Supporting Characters" board, so if you want my full thoughts on this episode, head over there. In short, I don't despise the episode with the same fervour a lot of others do, because I don't believe the writers actually intended it to be mean-spirited or malicious; I think it was intended to be twenty minutes of zany fun with a surprising and emotionally satisfying ending. Needless to say, that therefore makes the actual execution a mind-bogglingly colossal failure in all respects, as what it came across as was a deeply, deeply irritating story of an extremely obnoxious character harassing an extremely likeable character and getting no comeuppance for it whatsoever. The episode is not evil, in my opinion; just rubbish.

Foster's Goes To Europe

EuroTrish was an amusing parody of Don Bluth-brand schmaltz, but otherwise this was just another example of how to completely mismanage audience reaction. Just like "Imposter's..." here we had a very sympathetic protagonist (Mac) being walked all over for twenty minutes by entirely unsympathtic antagonists (everyone else really, but mostly Bloo). What kind of satisfaction are we supposed to take from that? And that's not even mentioning the ludicrously mean-spirited ending...in my opinion, the character of Madame Foster was generally handled really quite badly right up until late Season Three. The idea was always that she's supposed to be a really lovely, pleasant and sprightly old dear who's occasionally prone to the odd burst of craziness or belligerence for comedic effect, but for most of the first three seasons, her pleasant side was just kind of assumed; they didn't bother to actually show it very often at all. As a result, the impression I got of her was that she was just a senile, actually quite unpleasant old lady. :wiltshock: They've since rectified this with episodes such as A Lost Claus, Bloo's The Boss and Emancipation Complication, but her actions in Foster's Goes To Europe still stand out as the series's nastiest moment.

Camp Keep A Good Mac Down

This suffers from a similar problem to the previous two episodes, but Mac isn't quite as sympathetic here. In fact, this is one of those episodes where none of the characters is particularly sympathetic; the writers aren't trying to engage you emotionally here, they're just using the characters' established schticks to drive forward a series of events. This isn't a problem in itself, as many great episodes have come from this template (Bus The Two Of Us being a standout); the problem is that they unbalance the whole dynamic by making Bloo so utterly unlikeable. This is a show whose emotional basis and underlying theme is one of friendship, primarily the one between Mac and Bloo. Sure, Bloo is a hyperactive, overly impulsive and often selfish character, but if you just make him an obnoxious jerk to the extent he doesn't even seem to care about his friends, you undermine the entire basis of the show. This and the previous two episodes I mentioned formed a quick-fire triple whammy at the beginning of Season Three which could have actually killed the show dead; the writers have thankfully since got it right back on track, but they need to make sure they remember and learn from the mistakes they made then.

I am REALLY surprised to find "Camp" and "My so called Wife" on here, because I laughed my ass of at those two episodes. I know each his own and all, but I really enjoyed those.

1. I Only have Surprise for you

Aside from Eduardo's great performance just "doing what everyone else does" I can't stand to watch a second of this travesty anymore. This episode is nothing more then a flaming red hot poker in the eye for Mac and myself, a hardcore character bashing episode with NO resolve.

Frankie even got SOME resolve from her nightmare episode, but I refuse to find the humor or enjoyment in seeing a kid becoming psychologically damaged and permanently terrified of his own birthday by his own BEST FRIEND. It's painful to watch any of it just knowing that it's just a means to cripple poor Mac.

2. Foster's home for um....Make'em up pals

While happy at the end, Frankie didn't deserve any of the hellish crap she was put through in this episode. Anyone with a pair of eyeballs and a BRAIN could come to suspect Goofball was a fake. This episode did nothing but abuse, drain, and suffocate Frankie and abuse her contributes to this house hold.

Watching her scrubbing scene is like having pins jammed in my skin, it's just too painful to take without cringing. Frankie didn't deserve this, and Frankie fan or not, no one should have to put up with someone like Goofball EVER.

3. Make-Believe it or not

I'll be honest, I have no idea why this episode was popular because frankly, it made my head hurt. Goo being knocked down a peg took way too long to come around, and to continue seeing her act so arrogant in her "perfect imagination"ness, was still annoying.

The logic in this episode is completely backwards and confusing, even for this show. Bloo closing the door on Mac is a sight I will NEVER forget no matter what anyone says. And to top it all off, Frankie, Herriman, and Madame Foster apparantly vanished into thin air and no reason was given, poor choice.

4. Bye Bye Nerdy

You know, it's amazing to think Bloo and Mac are best friends considering Bloo puts Mac through emotional, mental, and now SOCIAL hell through out most of the show. Bloo thinking Mac was a nerd simply because of that single image he briefly saw was pretty stupid.

As was his half assed ideas how to make Mac cool. I didn't really find them funny because they were too lame to be considered comical, plus, when did Bloo become an expert on labeling what's cool and what's nerdy? He hasn't been to Mac's school often, and in the end, Mac just ends up getting hurt.

5. Adoptcalypse Now

Not a bad episode but not a great one either. It seems odd to me that Mac wouldn't understand the point of a Foster home until now, and I don't think he would be the kind to go out of his way to ruin everything his friends and the others worked to put up. Mac can be sad, but not THIS stupid about things.

I also despite the obvious irony and appropriateness of the ending tie up scene, didn't really like it. It just bothered me thinking Wilt, Frankie, and Mr. Herriman would be "okay" with tying Mac and Bloo up in a closet. Bad image.

1. [Toilet Medal. Whoo.] Phone Home.
What Herriman did to Bloo was mean. It's unbelievable Bloo was told there's no price to it, he even admitted Wilt won, which is unlikely for Bloo, but no-one cares, until Mac comes in and gets a freaking CAR? Stingy, especially towards Bloo. Oh yeah, I guess you didn't notice, but the sound sample at the end makes it more annoying! ;)

2. [Dirt Medal. Yup.] Foster's Goes to Europe.
Madame Foster was harsh to everyone and everything. Who the hell steals a ticket from an 8-year old and a bunch of IF's? Sure, CN though it's funny, but emotionally, no.

3. ["This was left under my bed" Medal. Here we go.] Beat with a Shtick.
(New Guy = Anti-Bloo) + (Bloo = Anti-Ed) + (Madame Foster = Anti-Bloo) + (Terrence = Anti-Mac) + (Bloo = for Terrence) = Horrible. No-one, or hardly anyone was really supporting Bloo, and what Bloo did to Mac just for TERRENCE, was unbelieveble. Side note: It's _always_ on tv here, I've seen it 6 á 7 times. :(

4. [Carton Medal. All right.] Camp Keep a Good Mac Down.
Mac etc etc goes camping, Bloo eats all food, everyone is in trouble, Madame Foster dissapears for days and no-one wonders about her (meanwhile, Frankie is at home with no-one telling her to do chores), Everyone gets saved by bees, but whatever, Wilt _was_ almost dead, but in the end, all other things that happened was Herriman who got mad on little bunnies. In my line of sight, nothing really happened in this episode. Just some straight gags with nothing fitting chars.

5. [Wooden Medal. Almost cut my finger for this one. OH SNPA. ): ]Everyone Knows it's Bendy
No-one took time to listen to Bloo, and at the end, Bendy _got_ catched, but because Bloo did something worse, does that mean Bendy doesn't get any punishment? Riiight.

1- Blooooo - Though I know many would disagree, I found this episode to the least entertaining round of Frankie-torment. Not that such things are normally entertaining... The ending really sunk this episode. One of 2 episodes that made me genuinely angry (the other hit #3).

2- Phone Home - What little happened in this episode was extremely unentertaining. Easily the worst episode plotwise and entertainment-wise.

3- Imposter's Home for Um... Make-em' up Pals - Everyone loves to hate it, so why should I be the exception?
The only thing keeping it out of a tie for first is that I do think that Frankie, Goofball, and Herriman's dialouge in the office is hilarious.


4- Camp Keep a Good Mac Down - This episode was one heck of a frustrator. I found myself more frustrated than the cast. Add to that the failure of most of the jokes and gags (they annoyed me more than entertained me). As HappyFoppy said, nothing really happened; and that nothing had little entertainment value.

5- Foster's Goes to Europe - Another frustrating episode. Instead of laughing at the character's frustrating experiences (which is plenty possible when done right) I just got frustrated along with cast. "Twist" ending didn't help.

Where there's a Wilt, There's a Way just barely missed the cut, but make no mistake, I did not enjoy it. I made an exception for the much reviled Everyone Knows It's Bendy because of "I'm Punk Rock..." The Trouble With Scribbles used to really annoy me (and still does a bit), but not anywhere close to enough to get on a list such as this.

I've found little worth hating in the other episodes.

Here's MY top 5 least favorite:

5. Bye Bye Nerdy: Mac becomes a nerd, Mac finally becomes cool, but turns back to a nerd. Not cool.

4.Bloo Done It: This really irks me, especially the song. The only thing I like about this is Bloo's story of Uncle Pockets.

3.Only A Surprise For You: At first I enjoyed it, then I hated it when everoyone got mad at Mac for breaking some other friend's party when Mac thought it was his, began to lighten up massively at the part when Mac is making Artie's party a blast as a clown, and then... I permently hated it when Mac gets laughed at the end and Bloo succeds again. Not funny.

2. Imposter's Home For, Uh... Make `em Up Pals: Frankie not getting to have the fun of seeing the concert all because of some snotty and lazy friend. Terrible.

1. Everyone Knows It's Bendy: Oh, man, THAT episode was the worst! Everyone, including Wilt, gets blamed, and Bendy won at the end! I HATE it when that happens!!

Those are my opinions of the top 5 most terrible episodes.

I didn't see anything wrong or upsetting with "Bloooo". It was a very intense and physically harsh time for Frankie, but since it was a misunderstanding on her part and the hook-armed friend didn't really do anything remotely malicious, I'm able to enjoy it. It wasn't like a certain Season 3 episode that did nothing but abuse and destroy her in every way possible, and cynically mock and insult her fanbase.

it's a miracle I still watch this show!!!!!!
 

In order from 1(worst) to 5

1.Imposter's home for blablablablabla.

Cruel and malicious treatment to Frankie(which she did NOT deserve),plus since WHEN did everyone start to hate Frankie?! I mean Goofbarf was a SLEAZEBAG! Every time this wreck of an episode comes on I FLIP THE CHANNEL!WHAT WAS THE FOSTERS CREW THINKING?!


2.Emancipation complication:the musical number sucked,plus it was kinda boring.


3.I only have surprise for you:Just,meh plus Mac wasn't treated very nicely,either.


4.Challenge of the superfriends:zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzenough star wars parodieszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzz


5.the trouble with tribblesscribbles:I just didn't like this one.

I disagree. I had this discussion with Mr. Marshmallow some time ago.

The Season 1 unnamed episode continues to irk me more than the Season 3. It's a writer issue.

I. found. a. writer!
 

The idiot writer of Bloooooooo and imposters is CRAIG LEWIS!!!!!!


Look at tv.com,enter fosters, look for imposters, click craig lewis, and it says he also wrote the season 1 episode you don't like!

Lewis isn't the only one responsible, though. It still hurts me how Craig McCracken, Lauren Faust and everybody else actually thought the extremely vile and cruel nature of "Imposter's Home" would be funny and well-received.

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I guess they were ALL responsible,then but I will discuss this more in the goofturd thread. I'm also disturbed that they made the episode too:frankiemad:

I totally agree, I never let my personal feelings totally rob me of enjoying a movie, episode, or TV series unless it is a continuous jab or insult towards the character and it becomes a "mean spirited" attack on the character. What Frankie endured here to me was more like a bad day then a nightmare.

Frankie's treatment was done through 3 channels that to me, make the difference between a night in hell for her and a bad day for her:

1. Halloween based episode, so fear is kind of the point.
2. EVERYONE was having problems this episode.
3. Everyone misconcepted everything and everyone.

I think Blooo worked having Frankie as the typical girl who gets scared, especially with the art work in the dark rainy nights and seeing her frantic "POV shots" when she was looking for the hook guy. But more importantly, I do admit that I do enjoy SOME form of bad antics happen to my characters.

Example? I was just watching Animanicas Volume 2 today and a cartoon came up from the "Rita and Runt" portion. Rita, the small female cat of the duo was nabbed by a berzerker gorilla who wanted her as a "pet" and Rita didn't want to go. The gorilla beat, smashed, and pretty much made Rita a living toy.

Now, while I love Rita and find her to be a charming character, I enjoyed seeing her go through some hell just because it's interesting to see a character go through these changes. Just like in RL, everyone has a bad day. It all depends on if that torture becomes the main joke and nothing else.

Rita was tortured in various "toon" ways so it was hard not to laugh at it, knowing still it was a nightmare for her. Like with Frankie in "Bloooo" there was a purpose to it, it wasn't just directly making Frankie suffer and it was all part of the plot. "Imposter's" though didn't really derive any humor out of the pain.

The PAIN was the humor, and since this episode was handled in a realistic manner then a toony one, and Frankie was pretty much bashed at every waking moment of the episode (where as in Animaniacs, Rita eventually got some "justice") it was hard not to hate that episode, Frankie lover or not.

"Blooo" will always be one of my fav episodes because I think that episode shows the right way to handle making characters suffer for their art, while keeping the humor IN and the intentional character bashing OUT. Sorry that took so long :-/.

Well said. That episode and "The Big Cheese" are examples of how you make characters suffer for their art, without being cruel and malicious.

What Ditchy McAbandonpants said at the end of his post is completely true. Craig, Lauren and everybody else must NOT forget how dangerously close they came to completely ruining the show in Season 3. They have rebounded, of course, but I hope that they've truly learned their lesson and that there will never ever be another hurtful fiasco like "Imposter's".

Get the syrup in, 'cause here's a big portion of waffle.
 

Nicely said, Mr. Marshmallow! With your point about characters "suffering for their art", you've really put your finger on something that I've thought about for a long time.

When I was a kid, I was a proper little misogynist when it came to watching cartoons; that is to say, I used to really dislike female characters, and find them really boring in comparison to their male counterparts. Looking back, part of that could be attributed to a good, healthy juvenile phobia of the opposite sex (girls?? Ewww, GROSS!!! :D ), but in other ways, I actually still stand by what I thought then, because female characters, particularly in older cartoons, are frequently one-dimensional, tokenistic and utterly bland Little Miss Perfects, included solely to add a bit of glamour and girl appeal and usually completely unwilling to get their hands dirty for the sake of humour. Penelope Pitstop, Daphne from Scooby-Doo, most Disney heroines...their role is never to be the one doing the pratfall, taking the anvil on the head, heck, even cracking a joke; they're always just there, being oh-so-pretty and oh-so-dignified, always coming out on top, whilst the less "delicate" male characters are the ones off carrying 100% of the comedy burden. :(

The most pronounced example of this that springs to mind is Lola Bunny from Space Jam. Surrounded by the crazy, idiosyncratic Looney Tunes gang , each of whom is a flawed, lovable loser in their own way, she swans through the film being smugly perfect and untouchable, with a teaspoon of "sass" and "sex appeal" (both of which are totally wasted on a young audience) apparently supposed to compensate for the fact that, in a cartoon comedy film, she does nothing funny at any point. Look at the basketball game; the rest of her Looney Tunes teammates get smashed about six ways from Sunday, often in very funny slapstick ways. Does Lola "take one for the team", even once? No - the one time she's in any danger, Bugs pushes her out of the way and takes the hit himself, completely cementing her role in the film, like so many toon gals, as comedic deadweight. ::)

I've often praised Frankie for her "flexibilty"; when I say that, I primarily mean her ability to muck in and get down to the dirty business of making us laugh. Sure, she can do the glam thing, the sassy self-assured bit - but she can also be a hysterical fall guy, come out with some ridiculous gag, do something totally crazy and even engage in some good old-fashioned comedy violence. One of the things I respect most about Craig McCracken is that he's both willing and able to create universal comedy with girls at the centre, so even though it can go wrong (horribly, horribly wrong), I am willing to let rare botches like "Imposter's Home..." slide, because without episodes like "Bloooo", "Store Wars", "Cookie Dough" and "World Wide Wabbit" that allow Frankie to partcipate in the comedy just as much as her more extrovert male counterparts, she would be a much poorer character whom I doubt we would love half as much. :frankiesmile:

(Oh, man, this is so off-topic it's untrue...I'm sorry! Is that OK? :( )

Okay, back on topic...

Seriously, I haven't got many problems with Imposter's. It was cruel to Frankie, but it had its moments. (*gets killed by Frankie fans, with Cassini at their head*) I find it hard to pick, mostly because I find myself saying "I didn't like this and that episode... oh wait, it had the moment when...". That's why I won't put Europe in this list, despite the cruel ending. Eurotrish is my ultimate favourite character.

Sheesh. Okay, let's get down to it.

5. Phone Home
Boring. Boringgg. Boooriiinggg. Saw it once, found it nice (especially the Wilt bits :D ), but then... Bloo struggling with that poor phone all along was tiring, and there was absolutely no chance of getting a surprise at the end, as we knew all along it wasn't an IF. The second time I caught it I decided I'd rather study History (I had serious problems with remembering all the dates, it's not that I hate that subject, History lovers!). Sight for Sore Eyes was slightly boring too, but not in my least fave 5.

4. Emancipation Complication
Saw it once, and that was enough for me. It's not that bad, just not interesting enough to watch it several times, like I do with my fave, Bus the Two of Us. And, excuse my European point of view, the whole Lincoln stuff etc. was waaay too "American", I don't really know how to put this. Bloo and the videogames was a nice touch, but didn't bring this episode up.

3. My So-Called Wife
The Coco part was a nice touch. That I don't really like this one has nothing to do with me not being a Coco-fan, as "Cuckoo for Coco Cards" was one of my faves. No, Ben E. Factor lying, the stupid contest part... just uninteresting. And Coco at the beginning goes a bit OOC just to seem "worse".


2. I Only Have Surprise for You
This episode had its moments, I liked the "action-Mac" and his speech, it was nice... but the ending hurt me so bad. Sweet little Mac, my favourite (he somehow managed to replace Wilt and Terrence!). I won't forgive Bloo.

1. Blooo
When I first saw it I was like "OMG! How nice, my fave ep...". They aired it the second time, and the magic was gone. Despite the funny horror-parody.

And now I see, I have forgotten to say "Dinner is Swerved", in which I found Charlie the chicken leg the most annoying character EVER (and it made me hungry like 30 minutes after lunch), "Hiccy Burp", in which the 10 minutes of hiccups and burps were boring and gross...

1. I Only Have Surprise for you. : How Dare.....
2. Bendy's... Don't Remember the name, but, how dare he destroy's the foster's lives.
3. Camp Keep A mac Good Down. Don't like the bunnies
4. Emacipation Complication
5. Squeakerbooooooooooooooooox Bloo Should teach that Girl A Lesson and mac should help Because it's his friend, right?

Why are people using this?
 

5. I Only have Surprise for You - If Mac threw a piece of cake at Bloo at the end, this ep. wouldn't be on the list.

4. Sight for Sore Eyes - "Stevieeeeeeeeeee!!!!! My eyes make gross sounds when they move!"

3. Imposter's Home - Cheeseball. 'Nuff said.

2. Blooooo! - Had as much dialoge as a "Courage the Cowardly Dog" episode.

1. Emancipation Constipation - When you mix innocent imaginary friends with hard to understand politics and marketing... you create something worse than "The Andy Griffith Show".

I gotta talk about this, since this brings up another issue I've been bothered with. What you said about Frankie taking one for the team is true, I do feel the fact she gets bonked, bothered, and put through hell like the other characters is a good sign of, in a way, equality and like you said, flexibility.

The issue of Lola though bares more to a bigger problem I have noticed and that's females in media getting "special treatment". Alot of female toons don't have anything BAD happen to them, same with female characters in horror movies of more recently today. Think of the Jurassic Park movies for example.

All three films, know how many women died? NONE ZERO ZIP! How many males died? A hell lot more then you got fingers or toes (don't worry I'll swing this back into topic). Same thing has happened in Animaniacs, Ben 10, Rune Soldier, Darkwing Duck, Bonkers, and even Duck Tales.

All have suffered huge faults where female characters are magically saved from the burden of being bashed, blown up, or taken down the same multiple amount of pegs males do. And now the tie in: Goo. Goo is hard for me to like sometimes because alot of her antics tend to ruin really good episodes.

She didn't have jack happen to her up until "Make believe it or not" and even then, the fact her ego more or less became the plot of that episode shows she still has some peg knocking to be done. I was very upset with that episode because basically, Goo showed herself to be some kind of super god.

That she can think of ANYTHING and she'd be right or she'd always win. Hell, look at her alien creations, half the imaginary friends people think up are very simplistic and basic. Goo's are complicated, detailed, and much more unique, this is still kind of "showing off" her imagination superiority.

Even if she did learn a lesson, I still think that episode was so completely off kilter as far as logic and character representations go. I'm not sexist to female toons, and I don't hate them or Goo for getting the better treatment in the occasional episode or series I watch. But it does ruin my enjoyment of them.

Frankie's treatment in "Cookie Dough" "Bloooo" and "The Big Cheese" are fine examples of how someone can have a rotten day and not turn into a character bashing episode. Character bashing of any kind is one of the worst things to find in a toon, that's why I disliked "Surprise" and "Imposter's".

I really hope Craig and Lauren are paying attention to what Ditchy McAbandonpants and Mr. Marshmallow have said in this thread. They've done a wonderful job with making Frankie a very three-dimensional and diverse character who isn't tainted by the media's blind(and probably feminist-influenced) pampering of female characters.

If they're serious about making Goo the ninth regular cast member of Foster's, then they should give the same treatment to her. Her "perfect solution to a problem" persona would be fine if she was meant to appear only once or twice a season. But since they insisted on making her a near-regular in Season 4 while still keeping that flawless, 'deus ex machina'-esque personality--it's easy to see why so many people have become so annoyed with Goo(even though I love her).

And(swinging things back on-topic) I don't think it can be said enough just how horrible and traumatic "Imposter's" was. I REALLY hope the Foster's crew have taken the criticism and backlash to heart. Frankie and her fans deserve better.

Wow, I completely agree and have nothing constructive to add to that because you've said it all.

Unfortunately yes, I think perhaps sometimes the "infallible token sassy, smart, female character who scoffs at the male characters who have to carry the weight of the funny on their shoulders while she sits around and be's desirable" thing might be fueled by not wanting to offend women or something, I don't know. But basically what I'm trying to say is that this is perpetuating the "women are inferior to men" menality, not fixing it. It doesn't show that women have common sense and always come out on top. It shows that they can't handle anything besides looking pretty and providing "diversity" in the cast.

Anyways, getting back on topic, one episode I didn't like was Where There's a Wilt, There's a Way. It was just really boring and any character and/or plot development that occurred was totally undone by the end.

To Mr.M, I don't see "Cookie Dough" as being cruel to Frankie, she got something she was obsessed with. Although it makes the cookies seem like crack or dope,etc... for her.:wiltshock: Also "Big Cheese" was ebing cruel to just Frankie, Bloo had his treatment in "Mac Daddy"& I'm sure as heck another main character will live through that torture again soon.

1.Imposter's-Cruel treatment of a beloved character, plus the worst charcater in Foster's history.
2. Where Ther's A Wilt- Exactly the same as Imposter's besides the worst chracter thing.
3. EWIB- Only psitive thingis "I'm Punk Rock". Poor Coco, ED, Wilt & Bloo.
This look is cute though: :sadbendy: :bloogrin
4.Phone Home-Boring.
5. IOHASFY- Boring

Why all the abshing on Adoptcalypse? IMHO it was a good episode.

I didn't like The Big Cheese just because.... well, I didn't like it. It employed Goo of all people as an unwelcome deus ex machina, and having her and Cheese as the main characters of the same episode is like having to sit in the same room as Jar Jar Binks and Scrappy Doo (or some other character widely regarded as head-bashingly annoying) for half an hour. Also, Bloo hardly did anything. Yes, I know he's had his share of the spotlight in his own episodes but still. I'm a Bloo fan so I'm allowed to whine.

Cheese's list of diseases was pretty great though.

Frankie may not have been tortured cruel, but I wouldn't call what happened to her a rather positive outcome. Same thing with Mac and Bloo being tickled in "Make believe it", yeah it's funny, but after laughing non stop your jaw hurts.

It's a matter of perspectives, anything you do long enough no matter how funny it is will end up hurting in the long run. This was just funnier because of the crack/cookie drug addiction set up they gave Frankie in the episode.

Bloo put up with Cheese in "Mac Daddy" but I would say there are bigger "torture" episodes for him then that.

Yeah but it's up there in the top 10 Bloo turture episodes. It's Cheese, no one not even the Cheese fan girls/boys could stand to be stuck with him. Not even Wilt can handle it!

Perhaps I should have said "writing issue", it's the writing more than the writer that seperates "Blooooo" from "Imposter's".

It's all about relative entertainment value... or so it seems.

I think that makes things subjective. I thought "Bloooo" was a fun horror homage with some great Frankie moments. We saw her compassionate side(at the beginning with her genuine concern for Mac), her angry side, her strong side and her vulnerable side; all while being hot and smokin' without her sweater. Her suffering wasn't directly caused by some careless and inconsiderate jerk, which is what matters to me.

"Imposter's" had the entertainment value of eating broken glass. :( :'(

an opinion/apology
 

I understand all of that(Blooooooooo is a great episode in my opinion)


I am terribly sorry to anyone who was offended by my comment I said earlier.


I just seriously hate "imposters" that's all.

horror homages aren't funny...

"Imposter's" had the entertainment value of eating broken glass. :( :'([/quote]

Even if you replaced with someone who deserved it (I dunno Bloo or Terrence or Duchess) the script was awful & not even funny. Itwas boring & cruel, just the awful side of Foster's.:frankiemad: :-X

1) Imposter's- You know why. Cruelty to Frankie.

2) The ending of Foster's Goes to Europe- Madame Foster, how can you sink so low, stealing a young boy's tickets?

3) Neighbor Pains- Goo's the pain, and this episode offically made me dislike her more than I do now.

4) Go Goo Go- Goo, of course. But Bloo cracked me up.

5) Everyone Knows It's Bendy- Oh, stop pretending to be an emo, Bendy. :jk:

Here's my least favorite episodes:
1. Everybody Knows It's Bendy
2. Imposter's Home For... Um Make Em' Up Pals
3. Blooooo
4. Duchess of Wails
5. Camp Keep A Good Mac Down

5. Foster's Goes To Europe
Eurotrish was amusing, but like Ditchy McAbandonpants said, Mac got walked all over and the ending is the most unneccessarily mean-spirited thing the series ever did.

4. I Only Have Surprise For You
Yet another instance of an idea (Mac's afraid of his birthday because of Bloo's ill-timed surprises) and its execution that aren't funny in the least. That, and too many bad memories involved.

3. Everyone Knows It's Bendy
The biggest jerk to enter Foster's doors that isn't named Goofball screws with everyone and gets away with it in the end. Yee-ha. ::)

2. Phone Home
Bloo at his most irritating.

1. Imposter's etc. etc. etc.
No comment. Everything that could be said has been said.

My lease favorite...
 

Here's a list of my lease favorite Foster's Episodes:

1) I only Have Suprise for You
2) Neighbor Pains
3) Mac Daddy
4) Neighbor Pains
5) Parts of Foster's Goes to Europe

Why did you list Neighbor Pains twice? Lol.

Oh. Sorry. I didn't realize I did that. What was really was supposed to go there was 2) Go Goo Go. That one is one my least of favorite episodes.

1. Blooo. That. Was. So. Boring. If I wanted to see a five year old wipe snot on the walls for twenty-two minutes, I would go babysit my neighbor's kid. Seriously, there was like, nothing funny in this episode, and I hate vacuum cleaners.

2. House of Bloo's. This is the pilot equivalent of foot odor. I'm glad I didn't see this until after I'd already watched most of the series.

3. Camp Keep a Good Mac Down. What was the point of that? Nothing... happened. I know cause I don't even remember most of it, except for Herriman getting all twitterpated, which was creepy.

4. Foster's Goes to Europe. This is stressful to watch. D: I like Eurotrish though. I'mma goooooing to Euuuuurope!

5. Eddie Monster. Eh. Really boring. And I don't like Eduardo.

Why does everyone hate Bloooooooo? The Ghost Busters reference was ROTFLOL, IMHO.

Yeah I mean honestly, I really got a kick out of that episode. I thought it was a great horror movie parody and despite what any Frankie fan says, I LOVED seeing her as the "cliche" horror actress/victim type character.

It just worked so well with her and the whole chasing sequence with Bloo and Wilt and the others Ghostbuster style was nicely done. I really enjoyed this episode.