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BlooCheese 08-18-2006 12:17 PM

C'mon down to South Park!
 
Well, I know a few people here like South Park. Just wondering what the rest of you thought. Personally, I think that if you excluded the coarse language and some of the more violent or not so "clean" scenes, you'd actually have a very beautiful story with a very clear message. So, uh...what say you?

kageri 08-18-2006 12:24 PM

Personally, I think if you excluded the coarse language and some of the more violent or not so "clean" scenes, you'd have nothing but commercials. But seriously though, folks, seriously though, it's got great characters and great music, and that anime spoof episode, "Good Times With Weapons" made me rofl because it was so accurate.

BlooCheese 08-18-2006 02:45 PM

LOL. What I meant to say was that South Park would still be great and all without the profanity, but not cut out the whole scene. Just no cursing and stuff.

Cassini90125 08-18-2006 02:58 PM

Why no cursing? Who does it hurt?

BlooCheese 08-18-2006 03:01 PM

Well, it makes my mom mad.

Kzinistzerg 08-18-2006 03:29 PM

It's put in so that it attaracts the mainstream. If you peel away all the layers and just watch the episodes, though, usually you end up with some very brilliant commenting on today's society. The fact that they can get it in there without shoving it down your throat is genius. Usually Kyle or Stan ends up making a speech in which they sum up the entire point of the show. Cartman is just... hehe...

kageri 08-18-2006 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzinistzerg (Post 906)
Cartman is just... hehe...

....winning at life. He is great.

But yeah, Stan and/or Kyle's "I learned something today" speeches are good at summing up what they were trying to say, but it's usually pretty easy to figure out.

BlooCheese 08-18-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzinistzerg (Post 906)
It's put in so that it attaracts the mainstream. If you peel away all the layers and just watch the episodes, though, usually you end up with some very brilliant commenting on today's society. The fact that they can get it in there without shoving it down your throat is genius. Usually Kyle or Stan ends up making a speech in which they sum up the entire point of the show. Cartman is just... hehe...

I guess that's what I was trying to say, but I didn't express myself very well. Take away the profanity and you still have a wonderful satire and sometimes a very good moral. Even with the cursing, South Park still can deliver an important message to its viewers.

And I think there's usually a piano playing in the background while they're doing the "I learned something" speech. Always same tune.

Kzinistzerg 08-18-2006 05:07 PM

Eh, usually characters have thier own music for the moment. Notice Goo has her own little stuff that's ALWAYS in the background?

I pretty much copied that verbatim from what my brothers said a while back. They certainly have some... interesting... stoylines...

GrimTheLost 08-21-2006 11:24 AM

With South Park the course language is usually not the punchline, it's just part of their language. And they are very socially aware . It is a smart show with a funny art style.
"I'm cereal guys, cereal."- SPs version of Al Gore

BlooCheese 08-21-2006 04:17 PM

Don't get me wrong. I love South Park. I love how they poke fun at modern society and politics.

Kzinistzerg 08-21-2006 05:03 PM

I love their animation style. Gives some of us hope.. hehe...

BlooCheese 08-21-2006 07:13 PM

What do you mean? (Yeah. I'm slow when it comes to picking up hints.)

Mac 08-21-2006 08:10 PM

I used to LOVE them when they first came out. But now they just aren't funny anymore and sometimes cruel. Like the kids in school who picked on others. I'm into that kind of humor. Though when they poke fun at celebrities I can't stand (Tom Cruise) then I do enjoy them.

GrimTheLost 08-21-2006 11:03 PM

I was kind of sad that Isaac Hayes left because of the whole Scientology thing. That made me mad.

BlooCheese 08-21-2006 11:35 PM

Yeah, it was kinda cruel of them to do that.

GrimTheLost 08-22-2006 02:13 AM

I think Isaac Hayes was in the wrong for leaving. He only left because they made fun of his religion. He has no problem with making fun of everyone else, but when it comes to his own he gets whiny. A pox on Mr.Hayes! A POX!

Kzinistzerg 08-22-2006 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BlooCheese (Post 1664)
What do you mean? (Yeah. I'm slow when it comes to picking up hints.)

We crappy animators, I mean.

Mac 08-22-2006 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GrimTheLost (Post 1733)
I think Isaac Hayes was in the wrong for leaving. He only left because they made fun of his religion. He has no problem with making fun of everyone else, but when it comes to his own he gets whiny. A pox on Mr.Hayes! A POX!


I felt the same way. How can he sit there and help them make fun of everyone else on the planet and then get 'upset' when they did it on his own religon? Ugh. It's south park! He should know what to expect from them.

Kzinistzerg 08-22-2006 06:50 AM

Yeah... Exactly. That annoyed me too, if you're going to poke fun at others you need to be able to poke fun at yourself first.

BlooCheese 08-22-2006 11:18 AM

Now I see it in a whole new light.

Before, I just thought that it was cruel for Trey Parker and Matt Stone to make fun of Scientology because it indirectly meant hurting Isaac Hayes. But now I see what you guys mean, and it's very true.

Kzinistzerg 08-22-2006 11:40 AM

Well, Kyle said it in the cartoon wars episodes, that you have to either make EVERYTHING ok to make fun of, or nothing is.

BlooCheese 08-22-2006 11:48 AM

I never saw Cartoon Wars, so OK.

Imaginary Light 08-24-2006 08:55 AM

I LOVE South Park!
Anyone else think that Kyle, Stan, Cartman, and even Kenny are a little too mature for the age of 8 (well, in the newer episodes...age of 9)?

Starsky 08-24-2006 10:07 AM

I'm quite fond of this show. It's not a personal favorite, and it can sometimes get pretty tiresome, but it's pretty charming and the simple fact that it somehow manages to be crude and innocent at the same time makes it good in my book. I gotta say, the last few seasons, that focus more on "let's make fun of this particular subject", are quite enjoyable (Cartoon Wars was excellent, for instance, and so were Best Friends Forever, Two Days Before The Day After Tomorrow and such), but Season 6 is, to me, the best thing the show's ever produced. It managed to link all the episodes in a convincing storyline (the boys' life after Kenny's death, first trying various substitutes and then having his soul inside Cartman's body) and practically every episode was fantastic (with only one true dud, "Bebe's Boobs Destroy Society"). A Ladder To Heaven, The Return Of The Fellowship Of The Ring To The Two Towers, Free Hat, Professor Chaos or The Simpsons Already Did It still hold up as some of the biggest laughs I've ever had.
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Originally Posted by Imaginary Light (Post 2184)
Anyone else think that Kyle, Stan, Cartman, and even Kenny are a little too mature for the age of 8 (well, in the newer episodes...age of 9)?

It depends. They seem to be too mature whenever Matt and Trey use them as puppets to express themselves ("I've learned something today..."), but most of the time they actually seem incredibly realistic to me - sure, a bit heavy-handed, but well-treated overall. I've known dozens of kids who were practically like that at 8-9 (well, they didn't feed people their parents... forget Cartman), if only because, even if they're like that, they always seem to keep a certain naive feel that makes them quite charming. I personally think Matt and Trey do a far better job with the kids than with the adults, even if they're supposed to be distorsed, one-joke versions of reality. The angry mobs are getting pretty tiresome, really.

kageri 08-24-2006 03:27 PM

Speaking of Bebe's Boobs Destroy Society, that was one of the episodes that stuck out to me as being one of the times when they were like real little kids (another one being Stan's "and they hypnotized him with a little thing that goes whirirrr" in The Return of Chef) because they were into Bebe's boobs without really being aware that they were into Bebe's boobs. Butters almost always acts young, too. I love Butters.

Cartman does not count because he is psychotic.

Cassini90125 08-24-2006 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 2238)
Cartman does not count because he is psychotic.

I prefer to think of him as... "gifted". Yeah, that's it, gifted. ;) :D

BlooCheese 08-24-2006 04:28 PM

Yeah, sometimes they don't seem to be like little eight and nine-year-olds.

Cartman's in his own class. I have a grudge against the fat boy because he's always trying to make Kyle cry or make life miserable for Kyle. But other than that, he's cool.

My sister was so devastated when she saw that Stan, Kyle, Kenny, and Cartman had hair. She was moaning about it for days.

Kzinistzerg 08-24-2006 04:29 PM

Cartman is like a combination of Bloo and Berry. Ugh...

Plus some swearing.

Nyo 08-25-2006 08:51 PM

I really don't like this show, but I like Cartman.

"Respect mah authoritah!" (or something like that)

Kzinistzerg 08-27-2006 09:10 AM

I think 'authoritah' should be put in the dictionary.

Nyo 08-27-2006 04:16 PM

Ya rly.

Emma 08-29-2006 04:14 AM

I love South Park. Kyle and Cartman especially (but also Butters and Stan...never quite got into Kenny as much, but he's cool too). It's just...so great. And Scott Tenorman Must Die is possibly the best plot twist ever.

Not to mention it's side splittingly hilarious. Between Cartman and Randy, I'm completely helpless.

BlooCheese 08-30-2006 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma (Post 3174)
And Scott Tenorman Must Die is possibly the best plot twist ever.

The finger in the chili...priceless.

kageri 08-30-2006 12:36 PM

Randy is absolutely awesome. Stan has the coolest dad in the whole show.

And Butters is so adorable, if I had any desire to ever have children I'd want to adopt him.

Emma 08-30-2006 05:45 PM

"Hmm, what's the best way to put this...alright, everyone who does have a grandmother, step forward. ...Not so fast girls."

Randy owns all.

BlooCheese 08-30-2006 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 3472)
And Butters is so adorable, if I had any desire to ever have children I'd want to adopt him.

My sister is totally in love with Butters. :P

Nyo 08-30-2006 06:04 PM

I love it when I see see him as...

PROF. CHAOS!

BlooCheese 08-30-2006 10:53 PM

Hey, does any South Park fan like Kenny?

There's a little place in my heart just for him. I think that's mainly because of the episode "Kenny Dies." I was bawling. That episode touched my heart.

I have a thing for characters who always have a hard time. Kenny because he's always dying, and Kyle because Cartman likes to try and make him cry.

Emma 08-31-2006 01:28 AM

I love Kyle for that reason (but more because he's cute when he's frusterated, not to mention has an awesome jew 'fro), but I could never get into Kenny as much because of the "barely-talks-and-when-he-does-its-unintelligable" thing. I did warm up to him considerably after seeing Bigger, Longer, Uncut though. But, outside of a few exceptions, his character hasn't really developed at all. He's still one of the boys though, so I do love him.

What's funny is how many fangirls the guy has. It's awe inspiring! I'm assuming it's because of all the "angst" that can be extracted from someone who's poor and dies every episode. Ugh...just thinking about angst and SP reminds me of their section over at FF.net. It some of the absolute worst badfic anywhere. I mean, everyone is slitting their wrists and the only romance seems to be Kyle/any of the other three boys. WTF??


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