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Vampyre 10-10-2006 06:27 AM

I don't really ahve that much of a Cockney accent but because of the area of England I live in which is filled with people that do sometimes a bit of the old black country slips out when I'm talking such 'doe' for don't and 'ae' for isn't. It's quite fun to make Zigzag talk like that really in a sort of Hagrid type way from harry potter.... Ok let's get back on topic:D

antgirl1 10-11-2006 05:51 AM

Hmm..........um..............my brain stopped.

Vampyre 10-11-2006 06:50 AM

Okay um... I know. If GWH was written by you and you had total contorl (as long as you keep to the already set storyline) what would happen in it?

For me, since I've become a pretty big fan of Wilt/Frankie, it would be Frankie in particular who would want to find him. And perhaps before he left to find his creator. Wilt would go into her room while she's sleeping and I dunno kiss her on the cheek, showing a little bit of indearment or something.

How would you write it?

pitbulllady 10-11-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Vampyre (Post 10192)
Okay um... I know. If GWH was written by you and you had total contorl (as long as you keep to the already set storyline) what would happen in it?

For me, since I've become a pretty big fan of Wilt/Frankie, it would be Frankie in particular who would want to find him. And perhaps before he left to find his creator. Wilt would go into her room while she's sleeping and I dunno kiss her on the cheek, showing a little bit of indearment or something.

How would you write it?

I guess it's no big surprise to anyone on here that I'm a big supporter of Wilt x Frankie myself, so I'd really like to see some one-on-one bonding taking place between them in GWH as well. I believe that there already IS a relationship between the two of them that's unique, something Frankie does not have with any other IF's in the household, though exactly what the nature of that relationship is, I'm not certain. I do not think that it's a romantic one at THIS time, but there is something. I'd like to see them draw closer during the movie, and for Frankie to be the one who finds out Wilt's deep-dark secrets when he finally can keep them to himself no longer. It would be great if they have something in common, perhaps something to do with the emotional trauma he's been through, and what she's experienced with regards to whatever happened to her parents(assuming something has). I don't think that Craig & Co. are going to break with their policy of "No Romance", so I doubt we will ever see anything serious happen between Wilt and Frankie(or any other twosome), but I can see a sort of subtle "Grissom x Sarah" thing going on between them, a' la "CSI", where the really observant will know that there's a more intimate relationship there, but it won't be so obvious as to offend the easily-offended parents or bore little kids or others who simply aren't into that sort of thing.

pitbulllady

Voxxyn 10-11-2006 02:13 PM

I must agree with PBL. I doubt they'll have anything TOO heavy; it doesn't even have to be romance. But something involving the two redheaded "fan(gender) magnets" of Foster's would be nice.

I'm envisioning a scene late in the GWH movie, where the journey to find Wilt seems to become totally hopeless(all thanks to Bloo's crackpot theories). One by one, the gang decide to just quit and go back home... except Frankie, who instead gives everybody a speech on just how important and valuable Wilt really is to Foster's, and that she's NOT willing to turn back the bus until they find him.

InsaneFan 10-11-2006 03:53 PM

Ooh, yeah, that'd be cool!

CG 10-11-2006 03:56 PM

I highly doubt they'd give up on Wilt. Did the guys give up on Eduardo when he ran away? That doesn't sound like something any of them would do, and I know, you're writing what you would want to happen but personally; that's a pretty awful thing to want to happen.

And I just want to say this of Good Wilt Hunting. I personally am looking forward to when it airs, but then when it finishes. There's far too much build up and expectations going on, and once it's all over and done with it will be a sigh of relief from me, personally.

I know you guys will see this as a flame, or a bashing, but please don't. As much as I am fond of Wilt and his character, I'm just not on the same level as some of you. Good on you for connecting to emotionally with a character and all, but please do put on the brakes now and then.

Also just have to say I don't think it's rightfully fair that you guys can discuss Wilt/Frankie while any othe relationship discussions aren't really smiled upon. I just don't think it's fair.

I suspect I'm going to get a lot of backlash because of this, as I normally do when I voice my opinion on something like this but I just felt I had to say it. Because I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. But hey, someone has to be the fall guy.

Might as well be me.

Cassini90125 10-11-2006 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 10251)
I suspect I'm going to get a lot of backlash because of this, as I normally do when I voice my opinion on something like this but I just felt I had to say it. Because I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. But hey, someone has to be the fall guy.

Might as well be me.

Then I'm going down with you. I hate the pairing, period. And while I hope GWH is an excellent episode, it can't live up to this much hype, though I'm sure I'll be told otherwise.

Sparky 10-11-2006 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 10251)
Also just have to say I don't think it's rightfully fair that you guys can discuss Wilt/Frankie while any othe relationship discussions aren't really smiled upon. I just don't think it's fair.

I *would* like to ask everyone to try and keep pairing discussions in their OWN, clearly-marked threads. Not everyone wants to read about pairings - and this is a "Wilt" thread, not a "Wilt and Frankie" thread. So please move that discussion to a new thread, guys. Perhaps the W/F posts can then be moved to it, as well.

(I know that wasn't what you were talking about CG, but I can't keep up with this particular thread and your comment just alerted me to this, that's all. I don't support *any* pairings, but they all may be discussed on this board as long as such duscussions are clearly marked.)

x_dummkoff_x 10-11-2006 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 10254)
Then I'm going down with you. I hate the pairing, period. And while I hope GWH is an excellent episode, it can't live up to this much hype, though I'm sure I'll be told otherwise.




-reluctantly raises hand-
I hate that pairing too.

pitbulllady 10-11-2006 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 10226)
I must agree with PBL. I doubt they'll have anything TOO heavy; it doesn't even have to be romance. But something involving the two redheaded "fan(gender) magnets" of Foster's would be nice.

I'm envisioning a scene late in the GWH movie, where the journey to find Wilt seems to become totally hopeless(all thanks to Bloo's crackpot theories). One by one, the gang decide to just quit and go back home... except Frankie, who instead gives everybody a speech on just how important and valuable Wilt really is to Foster's, and that she's NOT willing to turn back the bus until they find him.


I'd figure that Frankie's search for Wilt, and the rest of the gang's search for Wilt, will most likely be two separate searches, with each not knowing about the other until they chance to run into each other. I can't see Frankie looking for ANYTHING on a cross-country trip while hauling an eight-year-old kid that's not hers, and a bunch of other Imaginary Friends...especially a certain small BLUE Imaginary Friend! That's just too much to deal with while trying to find Wilt. I figure that Mac, Bloo, Ed, and Coco will probably set off on their own, probably without Frankie knowing about it, until their paths cross, at which time she'd send them on home(or, TRIES to). Wilt is her legal responsibility, after all, so it would be up to her to find him, but looking after someone's kid(and that someone won't have any clue where said kid has gotten to)and all the rest would be far too distracting and stressful. Besides, Frankie may have some issues of her own regarding Wilt she feels she needs to deal with, such as some of her recent treatment of him(and NO, I am NOT bashing Frankie), and may feel that she is to blame for his departure, since she does not apparently know the real reason he left Foster's.

Bloo will, of course, at least at some point, blame a Galactic Overlord.

pitbulllady

Voxxyn 10-12-2006 12:03 AM

I have to admit, the hype for "Good Wilt Hunting" is making me dread it as much as I am anticipating it. Not only do I have fears for the humor/drama/character possibly not development living up to the heightened expectations; deeply personal and wildly varied expectations seem to have built up in many people--meaning that some of them are going to be VERY disappointed. And I'm unfortunately guilty of this, as I probably won't enjoy GWH much if Frankie only has a tiny role.

And as for the whole pairings argument... I love this board, and I love all of you guys. So I hope you'll understand when I say that I'm a little disheartened with the nature in which this board and it's users treat that concept.

Just for the record, I'm not a "shipper" person at all. There are some canon pairings in fictional works that I do like a lot, but I don't obsess over them. In that case, I'm not obsessed with the idea of Wilt and Frankie getting together in the official canon--even though I wouldn't mind that happening, completely unlike something like FrankieXHerriman. But if they don't ever become lovers, that's fine with me; just as long as they remain on good standing by the end of the series.

I understand that a lot of people aren't into that stuff, and that's fine; and it's definitely a good idea to separate such discussions into their own threads for their sake. But I have to be honest. Some users here have become extremely cold and hostile towards shipping, fanfiction and anybody who supports both--and that, in my opinion, is not fine AT ALL.

Is it necessary to say "I HATE SHIPPING/FANFICTION OF ANY KIND" that bluntly and at the top of your lungs? Do you have to treat it as if it were an incurable disease or mass murderer? Do you have to crush the spirits of any shipper potentially reading these posts? Do you really have to make them feel persecuted and even hated just because of their beliefs? Isn't that called DISCRIMINATION?

I believe in having an opinion and the freedom to express it. But I also believe in treating everybody else with the respect they deserve. I'm sorry, but I don't appreciate how some people here feel the need to speak so harshly and stomp on people's spirits and dreams, especially on a fan forum to a show that is dedicated to sparking and stimulating such imagination.

pitbulllady 10-12-2006 04:47 AM

Uhm, guys...I think we probably need to drop the subject of pairings, especially where "Wilt x Anybody" is concerned, OK? Some people are bothered by the pairing choices of others, and this topic has caused some disagreements that escalated into arguements in the past on the old board, so I'd prefer to avoid that here. Yes, I did mention my support of a particular pairing, but I'm not going to go any further than that or get dragged into an arguement to defend it, and I just think it would be a good idea to move on to something else Wilt-related.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 10-12-2006 05:52 AM

Which is why I wasn't even speaking of this. :D

Um.........I wonder how big Wilt's teeth are, since they seem bigger than the rest of the character's. XD

Cassini90125 10-12-2006 10:09 AM

I've noticed that, too. They vary from time to time of course, as things in cartoons often do, but I'd guess they're a little larger than those of a horse.

Vampyre 10-12-2006 10:58 AM

I'm quite surprised he hasn't got buck teeth actually, since his two front teeth ARE unusually large. By the way speaking of the oral area of his face, as anyone ever recorded an episode and watched Wilt's mouth move in slow motion when he talks? :D Gotta love his gi-huge-ic mouth! 8D

Also I'm sorry about the 'pairing' thingy going round. That was kind of (completely) my fault. You can digitally punch me now :P

scary_dream 10-12-2006 01:00 PM

Aw, I love Wilt's huge mouth/smile. I think that's one of the things that make him so charming!

However, I'm not really surprised that he doesn't have buck teeth. Yeah, his teeth are large, but if you'll notice whenever he open-mouth smiles, they're all even and straight. I think whenever he smiles like this :D, the "ginormous teeth" effect is just some cartoon-y stretching.

(Whew... so glad I stayed out of the "Pairing/Fanfic" argument! I don't plan on punching Vampyre though ;))

Vampyre 10-13-2006 06:56 AM

Hooray I get to keep my teeth!:D

Invader Bloo 10-14-2006 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CG (Post 10251)
I highly doubt they'd give up on Wilt. Did the guys give up on Eduardo when he ran away? That doesn't sound like something any of them would do, and I know, you're writing what you would want to happen but personally; that's a pretty awful thing to want to happen.

Bloo did. :grin:

Kzinistzerg 10-14-2006 09:06 AM

That, dear boy, is becuase he's bloo.

antgirl1 10-20-2006 06:21 AM

*notices silence that's been going on for the last what? 5 days?*

Well, it's offical, only 35 days left (for today) for the Foster's movie, when last I checked was about over 100 days...how fast time flies, eh? What else that's Wilt-related can we talk about that'll last on the 35 remaining days?

LaBlooGirl 10-20-2006 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 10255)
I *would* like to ask everyone to try and keep pairing discussions in their OWN, clearly-marked threads. Not everyone wants to read about pairings - and this is a "Wilt" thread, not a "Wilt and Frankie" thread. So please move that discussion to a new thread, guys. Perhaps the W/F posts can then be moved to it, as well.

(I know that wasn't what you were talking about CG, but I can't keep up with this particular thread and your comment just alerted me to this, that's all. I don't support *any* pairings, but they all may be discussed on this board as long as such duscussions are clearly marked.)

Therefore you need to erase all mentionings of Wilt/Frankie and any other pairing from EVERYBODY's thread, including PBL. If I can't even MENTION MacxBloo without it getting edited out (it wasn't even a pairing discussion, just a mention!), then do the right thing and edit out everyone's in every thread. You can't pick and choose, that isn't fair at all.

Oh and back on the topic of Wilt, I keep envisioning his creator with wounds similar to him. In fact, I think if the writers go with the "Wilt was made like his creator" theory, they will have this creator with the same injuries. I don't know why, but that keeps popping up in my head. I refer to GWH which is forthcoming, of course. :)

Sparky 10-20-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LaBlooGirl (Post 11417)
Therefore you need to erase all mentionings of Wilt/Frankie and any other pairing from EVERYBODY's thread, including PBL. If I can't even MENTION MacxBloo without it getting edited out (it wasn't even a pairing discussion, just a mention!), then do the right thing and edit out everyone's in every thread. You can't pick and choose, that isn't fair at all.

It is NOT against my rules to make brief mentions of pairings in posts as you did, and what happened to you was innappropriate. It is only when a full-blown discussion breaks out that myself or mods are supposed to step in and ask people to move it to another thread. (Notice all I did in this thread was ask people to move it elsewhere, I did NOT edit or move anyone's posts myself.) I hope I have made this clear to my mods, and if this ever happens to you again Ami, let me know. Same goes for everyone else.

(Sorry for being OT. This post is NOT to be replied to.)

InsaneFan 10-20-2006 04:30 PM

*blinkblink* Arguements....*twitch*

So, anyone else think that maybe Wilt doesn't remember what happened to him? I mean, with all the injuries to his head, you might think he'd have some sorta memory loss...Sorry if someone's already brought this up and discussed it, I wouldn't know. I'm not on that much anymore, so, yeah...

CG 10-20-2006 05:37 PM

Back on subject.

Now I know I haven't been a welcome ray of sunshine in this thread and I'm sorry for that; but this is 'Wilt discussion' so here comes some Wilt discussion between myself and kageri which happened over AIM.

~*~

kageri: i'll be relieved when GWH is done with. not that i'm not looking forward to seeing it.
CG: It has a lot of expectations.
kageri: yeah, i think a lot of people will be at least a little disappointed
kageri: if it isn't as emotional as they want it to be
CG: Seriously.
CG: I think some are expecting like, violin solos or some poop like that
CG: Wilt in the snow.
CG: That kinda stuff.
kageri: sad Wilt in snow
CG: *cringes at mental image*
kageri: they seem to expect Wilt to cry and cut and so on, and for there to be stuff that isn't kid-friendly, which isn't a very reasonable expectation of a kid's show
CG: I think he'd at least cry. But not all out bawling. Wilt doesn't seem the type.
kageri: nope
kageri: he's a pretty good internalizer when it comes to emotion
CG: He doesn't seem to show his emotions as much as some. Always perky. Only in the 'extreme' cases does he get angry.
kageri: yep. maybe that's why I don't like him as much as the others, I tend to like characters that have a bratty/mean side
kageri: Eduardo's an exception
KAGERI: he's just awesome.
CG: That he is.
CG: When Eduardo gets sad, he bawls his eyes out. When he gets mad, he becomes this raging monster. When he gets scared, he's terrified. His emotions are out of proportion but he's a sweetheart non-the-less.
kageri: he wears his heart on his sleeve
CG: A very furry sleeve.

Wilt, meanwhile, barely shows any. I mean he shows his happiness and everything, but we've never seen him actually cry, or get mad at anyone. More like he's afraid to show his emotions.
kageri: yeah :S
kageri: he gets irritated but never shows it
CG: "Cut it out please!"
kageri: i dunno why -- everyone else in the show has shown anger and they're still pals
CG: Can't even get angry without adding a 'please' which is like his anchor to not get overly emotional.
kageri: that's a good point :o
CG: I'm making poins! :3
kageri: : DDDD
kageri: some people don't really consider that maybe that's just his personality
kageri: some people are just mild, i think
CG: I think Wilt's afraid or can't show emotions.
CG: Maybe he sees them if he does it, as a sign of weakness and a sign of weakness is what got him abandoned/hurt in the first place.
kageri: that sounds very likely.
CG: He's obviously got abandonment issues.
CG: He certainly didn't say 'is that okay' to Mac when he thought he'd abandoned Bloo.
kageri: oh yes.
CG: "Well well well, if it isn't Mister Mac Abandon Pants!"
kageri: xDDDDD
CG: Certainly hasn't used that tone since.
kageri: i hate to say it but i think that's the funniest thing wilt's ever said.
CG: lol
kageri: by which i mean it's the only funny thing he's said.
CG: He's not really comedic gold is he.
kageri: nah. maybe i just have a different sense of humor.
CG: In 'Bus the two of us' all he did was worry and lie his way through the episode.
kageri: yeah :[
kageri: i guess it wasn't really right of Mac to threaten him, though
kageri: with the "we're your friends aren't we?" angle
CG: Not threaten, more like . . blackmail.
kageri: he must know Wilt seems to have issues with that
kageri: yeah.
CG: A very mild case of it.
kageri: that's the word i was looking for.
CG: Everyone knows Wilt holds friendship and trust high on his priorities list.
CG: He strengthens those friendships by doing any and everything he can for everyone.
CG: If he feels he's let them down in anyway it makes him feel totally worthless all over again.
kageri: yeah. :S
CG: Hence why he went on that mission in 'Crime after Crime' to punish himself.
kageri: but doing things for people isn't what friendship is about.
CG: Especially so when Frankie told him off.

Exactly. But Wilt doesn't know that, or he forgot.
kageri: he's there for his friends, and is patient and understanding adn everything a friend should be. he just doesn't realize that the doing things for people all the time really isn't necessary.
CG: He's seen how easy friendships can end, how easily he was abandoned by his child. Feeling he let the child down, he vows to strengthen the bonds with people around him by being overly nice, the guy you go to, the guy who never ever lets you down. The guy you wouldn't want to leave behind again.
kageri: yeah. that's sad. :[
CG: It is.
kageri: like he thinks Bloo would hate him if he didn't keep getting him chips.
kageri: ok maybe Bloo isn't a good example
kageri: but i mean
CG: Yeah.
kageri: yeah
CG: It's there, the underlying feeling that if he didn't, Bloo would hate him.
CG: Thus, Bloo hating him would lead to Bloo not being his friend anymore.
kageri: that's a little disturbing.
kageri: poor wilt.
CG: And for Wilt, even loosing friendship with someone who always does taken advantage of him is a big deal.
kageri: he wants to be friends with everyone
CG: Even the mean people.

~*~

And that is that.

LaBlooGirl 10-20-2006 05:48 PM

Wow CG what an intense discussion there! ::sniff:: Poor Wiltie. WHATEVER happened to that sweet Imaginary, I just hope his creator IS a good person and has a good reason for not showing up at the picnic. And well, in the end, maybe one possibility is that Wilt will not find his creator and learn that he has all the friends he needs right there at Foster's, with people who obviously care for him. :D That would be a pretty satisfying end for me if it came down to it....

kageri 10-20-2006 06:01 PM

So just to clarify, guys, I don't hate Wilt or anything.

.....

....And I agree he'll learn that his real friends are at Foster's. Someone who abandons you isn't a friend, but the folks at Foster's are behind him through thick and thin. Awwww. Group hug!

antgirl1 10-20-2006 07:03 PM

The confort's never gonna end, isn't it? XD

And YES, it has high expectations, I even ranted about it. XDD

And I can agree with Insanefan, what if he doesn't show his disabilities because he doesn't REMEMBER that he HAS them? Like, when he got injured he got Amnesia, and thinks he was made this way, it'd make sence for him to not show any signs for disability. (by that I mean asking to self why he can't/thinking to self why he can't/just plain unable to do something without two arms/two eyes) It's possible. Possibly he doesn't KNOW what happened to him, or REMEMBER when or how it happened.

pitbulllady 10-20-2006 07:57 PM

Wilt's reluctance to show much emotion, beyond happiness, is actually VERY typical of an adult male in Western culture, ESPECIALLY one from the South, and at times Wilt does have a rather strong Louisiana Creole or South Carolina "Geechie" accent, whether it's because he's actually from one of those places, or because he was created based in part on someone who was, waits to be seen. Here in the South, especially among the African-American communities, people use the phrase "man-up" to describe what Wilt does: bite back on his emotions, especially by not crying or reacting strongly to negative things, but just internalizing the situation and moving on. It's no wonder that Southern males, both Black and White, have the highest incidence of heart attacks, strokes, and anurisms in the country. It would have been absolutely frightening if someone had put a blood pressure cuff on Wilt immediately following the events of "Bus The Two of Us"! Men, especially Southern men, are not supposed to cry, show excessive anger, act worried or get upset. They are supposed to be the ones that women and children(who are seen as weaker, of course)can turn to and depend on in times of a crisis. Yes, Wilt probably DOES think of crying as being "weak", "sissy", or "childish", and while he is not exactly the macho, tough-guy biker sort, he definately has this "jock" element to him, though he's a lot nicer and more discreet in how he deals with others. This whole demeanor seems to back up my theory that one of the primary reasons Wilt was created in the first place was not so much to be a playmate, as is the case with most IF's, but to serve as a surrogate/replacement father, and since he was to take the place of an adult human male, he naturally would be expected to act like one.

That leads me on to why Wilt is so afraid of upsetting others, which of course, his own anger would no doubt wind up doing, thus he cannot let himself show it, not much, anyway. Wilt no doubt has some pretty bad abandonment issues, but I don't think that is the whole story. I know it sounds "out there" and far-fetched, but many of my students insist that Wilt was at some time involved in some sort of illegal activity, whether he got involved in it for survival after his creator left him, or what. He might have confessed to the police after being stricken with a conscience, and paid a price for "snitching", resulting in the loss of his arm and eye(I still can hear that chilling recounting of gang retribution on a "snitch" as told to me by a student last year). Some of his more extreme behavior, such as his willingness to cover for Mac and Bloo when Bloo took the bus, in spite of knowing it was wrong and dangerous, and his fear of upsetting the "powers-that-be", or alienating those around him, could stem from that moreso than his being abandoned by his creator. I even have had one student suggest that perhaps Wilt's secrecy about his past might be due to him having been placed in some sort of witness protection program, due to his knowledge of some crime, and I've suggested myself that Wilt might not have always been this extreme Mr. Nice Guy, and that his apologizing, his not wanting to get involved in a conflict, or upset anyone, could be the results of him trying to atone for something REALLY bad he's done in the past. A person, like an animal(and I do consider the IF's to be "people", as I've said)will do whatever it takes to survive, and if Wilt found himself in a desparate enough situation following his abandonment, there is no telling to what depths he could have sunk to just to stay alive. That could very well have meant becoming involved with people that he knew he ought not associate with, and doing things he knew were VERY wrong, and justifying them at the time as a means of survival. Wilt has shown just how quickly he CAN become dangerously edgy in "Bus The Two of Us", and was probably much moreso in the past, after being recently abandoned and forced to make it on his own while dealing with that emotional blow.

pitbulllady

kageri 10-20-2006 08:14 PM

That makes sense, especially since Wilt is one of the only IFs in the house (or at least, one of the only significant ones) who is specifically supposed to be like a Western guy. Bloo's sort of like a child, Coco's a girl, and Eduardo.... is Eduardo. Wilt seems to be the only one who feels the "showing emotion is weakness" obligation since he's the only one who was created to be like someone who does.

BlooCheese 10-20-2006 08:56 PM

Wow. Just wow.
You guys are so analytical. I would never be able to think that deeply into something and come up with a good argument.

And it's sort of true that showing emotions is a weakness. Some people in the world will use your emotions for their advantage.

I like Wilt all right. He's an awesome character.

CCMars 10-20-2006 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneFan (Post 11473)
So, anyone else think that maybe Wilt doesn't remember what happened to him? I mean, with all the injuries to his head, you might think he'd have some sorta memory loss...Sorry if someone's already brought this up and discussed it, I wouldn't know. I'm not on that much anymore, so, yeah...

I was thinking of that as well. Post-traumatic stress disorder can also cause amnesia, even more so than blows to the head if I recall correctly. There are a whole bunch of articles on the issue if anyone is interested.

LaBlooGirl 10-21-2006 05:50 AM

Did anyone notice Wilt's incredible leg strength?

Spoiler Below
I mean in the Bloo's the Boss ep, when he's lying down in the tub, he gets up by simply lifting himself out with his legs and from a lying positionwhich we all know is NOT easy to do. In Big Cheese, when he was fighting to get Cheese off of him, he was going in all kinds of directions and positions with fluid ease! Geez, they're not kidding when they say Wilt is "130 lbs of pure muscle".


Being that strong, here is my point. Wilt could definitely defend himself, I doubt he'd be so easily taken down and injured in the fashion he was. I'm not so inclined to believe he was hurt by any gang, at least not without a fight. My own personal idea is he was injured trying to help someone, maybe even his creator, and his creator won't show up to see him because of the guilt he/she feels over what happened to Wilt. I'm stickin' with that one. ^^ (And Wilt, being as apologetic and forgiving as he is, can't understand why his creator would feel that way, and so goes in search of him/her and still misses that individual, despite what tragic past he may have had.)

We DO analyze this to death, Bloo Cheese :bloogrin , but if you think about it, even Craig says he has a very "thinking" mind, and looks deeply into things. I mean the whole story of Coco is pretty deeply thought out if you ask me, with all of her little details. She's the result of some child suffering from a plane crash, too, so in my mind, it's not so "out there" to think Craig would give Wilt a story equally as tragic. Therefore we fans are constantly trying to predict what may have happened to Wilt.
LOL, if Craig is indeed keeping up with this board, he's going to feel awfully pressured with the storyline of GWH. I'm glad to know that they are actually taking their sweet time with this ep, and I think one reason for that is they want to carefully lay out what will happen and put a lot of thought into it. I highly doubt GWH will seem "rushed" such as some people think "The Big Cheese" was.

pitbulllady 10-21-2006 09:37 AM

Yeah, I saw the screen cap of Wilt in the tub that CG made into an avatar, and I didn't know(haven't seen "Bloo's The Boss")if he fell in the tub or was actually taking a relaxing bath. I DID notice that he still had his shoes on, though; doesn't he WASH his feet, for crying out loud? Given how much he can sweat, those socks must get pretty funky, and I do not mean that in a good way, by the end of a typical day! Maybe that's part of the reason he's so reluctant to take off his shoes, but at least washing his feet would help with that particular problem! I dated a guy in college who wore shoes into the shower, because he was afraid he'd catch AIDS or some other disease/fungal infection/somethingorother from the shower stall through the soles of his feet; he was just about as OCD as Wilt is, too. I seem to be attracted to guys with emotional issues, for some reason, LOL!

Wilt is amazingly strong and agile, though, almost like a large constricting snake, like a python or boa. It would be difficult for someone to take him down and hurt him if he fought back, since I can imagine one blow from his fist would probably put someone out for the "mandatory eight-count" at the very least, even if he WAS pulling his punch quite a bit! Still, Mac and Bloo DID manage to not only take him down, but tie him up with duct tape and hide him in a closet during "Adoptcalypse Now". It's true that not having but one arm, and having a blind side, would put him at a disadvantage, but the thing with gangs is that they are experts in taking people out, in torturing people, and they have numbers on their side. They also know the advantage of striking without warning, and if caught off-guard, even with both arms and eyes(at that time), Wilt would have been at a serious disadvantage against a large group. Someone could also have shot him with a shotgun, which has pellets that scatter rather than a single bullet, and could very well account for him losing an eye and arm at the same time, especially if he KNEW he was going to be shot, since he would have reflexively put his "weaker" arm-the left one-up in front of him. Those earlier concept drawings of him on Craig's blog show him with that eye completely gone, stalk and all, so I would guess that the scars on his face are from where a plastic surgeon used muscles and skin from his facial lobes to try and reconstruct an eyestalk to support a fake eye, to try and give his face some semblence of symmetry.

Wilt certainly does have many of the symptoms of someone with PTSD, though. The rapid mood swings, the feelings of guilt, the desparation to belong and not be left alone, as well as possible memory loss, could very well be indicators that he does suffer from this, and it would be very surprising if he DIDN'T. He might NOT recall what happened to him, exactly, having "buried" it far back in his subconcious, where it continues to plague him like a splinter underneath the skin. People with PTSD can be fine for years, and then something will trigger the symptoms again. Wilt seemed fine at the beginning of the series, but as the past two seasons went on, we started to see some disturbing behavior emerge and now it seems that he's almost teetering on the brink of some sort of break-down.

pitbulllady

Vampyre 10-21-2006 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 11528)
And I can agree with Insanefan, what if he doesn't show his disabilities because he doesn't REMEMBER that he HAS them? Like, when he got injured he got Amnesia, and thinks he was made this way

The theory that Wilt forgot what happened to him because Amnesia is actually very probable, however I think that he knows there's something wrong with him because he said it himself in the pilot that he is 'broken'. If he thought that he was made handicapped then i really don't think he would say that because if he WAS made that way then technically he would be broken because that's how he was supposed to be.

Also, I'm sorry but, what IS PTSD anyways? Me being, well, a bit of a dolt with the attention span of a fly lost in the land of poo, I'm probably the only one on here has no clue what it means :-[

kageri 10-21-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Vampyre (Post 11608)
Also, I'm sorry but, what IS PTSD anyways? Me being, well, a bit of a dolt with the attention span of a fly lost in the land of poo, I'm probably the only one on here has no clue what it means :-[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-tr...tress_Disorder

Vampyre 10-21-2006 12:55 PM

Ooooooh! Thankyou. So uh anything else Wiltish we can talk about? Such as....

I dunno if this would be going off topic or anything but has anyone ever noticed that out of all the lovey dovey OCs, Wilt has the most ones made for him? I'm not sre if this is just going back to what we were talking about before or not with Mary Sues and stuff but i don't recall having something like this mentioned so uh... yeah. Opinions?

scary_dream 10-21-2006 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 11599)
I DID notice that he still had his shoes on, though; doesn't he WASH his feet, for crying out loud? Given how much he can sweat, those socks must get pretty funky, and I do not mean that in a good way, by the end of a typical day! Maybe that's part of the reason he's so reluctant to take off his shoes, but at least washing his feet would help with that particular problem!

8D LOL pbl!! True, "funky cheese" feet are NOT cute, even on Wilt.

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 11599)
It would be difficult for someone to take him down and hurt him if he fought back, since I can imagine one blow from his fist would probably put someone out for the "mandatory eight-count" at the very least, even if he WAS pulling his punch quite a bit!

Wilt does seem like he could be VERY strong if he really needed to be.

Plus, you know how someone moves their arm too quickly and their hand smacks you in the face or eye or something? Wilt could probably take someone out anyhow just by accident, especially since his hands are so large! It'd be like running into a wall with ONLY your face.

And yes, Vampyre, I HAVE noticed this. I think it's for two reasons: 1) Wilt is charming, pure and simple. It's hard not to fall for him! And 2) Even though Frankie has a lot of fan boys, girls tend to have more of the "dreamer" side left in them from childhood (I think there are very few girls who didn't pretend to be a princess at least ONCE when she was little), so they write themselves in as a lovey-dovey OC for Wilt more often than boys would for Frankie, I'd imagine.

But that's just my speculation.

pitbulllady 10-21-2006 02:25 PM

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Yes, Wilt definately displays many of these symptoms, so clearly, in fact, that you can read the list and descriptions of PTSD symptoms and pin-point exact episodes in which he shows them!

Speaking of said Wikipedia article, I found a link on there in which there's a list of fictional characters with PTSD, and added a section for Wilt. However, I failed to create hyperlinks within the article, so if any of you Wikipedia users could go to the page and create links for "Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends" and for the character section about Wilt within the Foster's article, I'd appreciate it. You can find the section on Wilt + PTSD here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...der#Television
His is the last paragraph in the section. That way, those who aren't familiar with Foster's, or with him in particular, can find out more, especially since the character description of Wilt in the Foster's article specifically mentions "hinting of some dark times in his past" and shows the missing arm, fake eye and facial scars that I mentioned in my edit.

pitbulllady

Tonya 10-21-2006 03:32 PM

Wow, a lot has been said since I've been gone. Very touching. Hope no one minds if I squeeze in my little Wilt thoerie, huh?
This thing has probably been repeated over and over through the posts, but, mabe whatever happened to him in the past was so tramatizing, and it was so much, and too much for him to handle, so his mind simply blocked it out.
I actually seen a movie once where something so tramatizing happened to a woman when she was little girl, that her mind blocked it out, and later, when she became a woman, she just discovered that she had a past life she never knew she had. And then later, little by little, she started remembering pieces of what hapened to her, and when she put it all together and got it all figured out, at the end of the movie she resolved her problams.
Sorry for getting back on topic if nobody wanted too, it's just that I really wanted to share my theory, or theorie, or however you say it.


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