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Prutnick 05-22-2008 11:47 AM

Ooh, I would so like to see that: an episode, where somebody replaces Frankie at Fosters, while she moves out and e.g. goes to college or another job.

But I doubt it. However, it would make an interesting ending.

Mac-a-lacka 05-22-2008 12:14 PM

I don't know, I think Frankie is kind of fond of her job, sort of, she seems to like caring for imaginary friends, (with the exception of two.::):herriman:.)

Cassini90125 05-22-2008 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Xroc88 (Post 79523)
Do you think that if fosters ends that frankie should get her own spin-off, like she finally moves out of fosters and goes to college and we get to see her adventures and whatnot?

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Originally Posted by Prutnick (Post 79526)
Ooh, I would so like to see that: an episode, where somebody replaces Frankie at Fosters, while she moves out and e.g. goes to college or another job.

Uh, guys? She's already graduated from college:

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"Wow, I heard that's a really tough major, I'm impressed! So, what do you do, now that you've graduated?"
Dylan Lee, from Frankie My Dear. :frankiesmile:

Xroc88 05-22-2008 01:49 PM

Okay then how about make a spin-off show about her tryign to find her parents. If wilt goes to find his creator then why cant we see frankie trying to find her parents?

Prutnick 05-22-2008 01:53 PM

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"Wow, I heard that's a really tough major, I'm impressed! So, what do you do, now that you've graduated?"
Oh, sorry! To be honest, I heard ,,are you graduated?". Sound silly, but it's true. How much more can we learn from you about Frankie, Cassini? Sorry I haven't even cast my eye on the previous page, but did you consider writing Frankies bio or something like that?

Lynnie 05-22-2008 05:48 PM

I like her big eyes and eyelashes. I'm also fond of hoodies, and wear them often myself. On top of that, I always liked the colors purple and green. Almost right away, I felt we had some things in common. I kind of see her as a sister. And as a sister, I wish I could help her out with all that housework and caregiving that she does. :frankiesmile:

WiltsAKGirl17 05-22-2008 10:31 PM

Hmm... what do I like about Frankie? Wow, I actually have to think about this one.

I like her personality as a whole-- she's very nice, but she takes little in the way of bullcrap. She's basically everything I'm not; I suppose I agree with Lynnie-- I see a sister in Frankie. :frankiesmile:

Cassini90125 05-23-2008 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Xroc88 (Post 79544)
Okay then how about make a spin-off show about her tryign to find her parents. If wilt goes to find his creator then why cant we see Frankie trying to find her parents?

There are still a few episodes left; we may yet learn a few more details about her background, if we're lucky. I don't honestly think a spin-off would work, though.

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Originally Posted by Prutnick (Post 79545)
Oh, sorry! To be honest, I heard ,,are you graduated?". Sound silly, but it's true. How much more can we learn from you about Frankie, Cassini? Sorry I haven't even cast my eye on the previous page, but did you consider writing Frankie's bio or something like that?

I'll leave that to Craig; I can speculate all day about her background but I don't think it's my place to write a complete biography for someone else's character. I may throw in some bits and pieces of such things in my Sims story as needed but I don't want to violate canon anymore than I have to if I can avoid it. Enough people have already done that, both with the Foster's characters and those from other shows, and the results are often little more than senseless, out-of-character agenda-based wishful thinking. I don't care to do that on a public website.

Back on topic... It's not unreasonable to assume that Frankie does in fact get a vacation once in awhile, or at least a weekend off, away from the House and the rest of the residents. Where do y'all think she'd like to spend it? An island getaway, a tour of the orient, a mountain retreat, a ski resort, a cruise... all sorts of possibilities come to mind. If I had to guess I'd say she'd head for the islands; Hawaii, the Caribbean, some place like that. We know she enjoys the beach, as we saw in Squeeze The Day, and I think the steady warmth of the island climates would be a nice change of pace for her from the weather of the Pacific Northwest. Again, though, that's my thinking on the subject; what's your opinion? Where do you think Frankie would like to go relax and unwind for a week? :frankiesmile:

Mac-a-lacka 05-23-2008 07:29 AM

Let's not forget that she, Mac and the imaginary friends went to a water park.
I don't know about a week, maybe a camping trip?

WiltsAKGirl17 05-23-2008 09:29 AM

I agree about the islands, Cassini. I think she'd enjoy a big city, too, like New York or Washington DC. I can very easily picture Frankie enjoying the variety of amusment a major city would have to offer-- museums, theater, high-end shopping (that Bloo wouldn't get her banned from), etc.

So who wants to chip in to send Frankie on a nice vacation? :-* I'll start with... <rifles through pockets> 25 cents.

Sorry, I'm being a dorkfish again... :-[

Medikor 05-23-2008 12:32 PM

I could see Frankie enjoying the country. After the hectic and often fastpass atmosphere of Foster's, I think she would like to just slow down and enjoy some of the mellow comforts that you can find outside of the city.

Xroc88 05-23-2008 01:37 PM

I Agree, but only if she invites one of us to tag along, OOH She is gonna vote for mE!! i just know it!!

Lynnie 05-23-2008 06:11 PM

Haha, I can certainly imagine Frankie wanting to escape the Pacific NW. I personally love it here, but I can understand when friends of mine want to get to a warmer and sunnier place SOOO BAAADD! :P

I personally don't see her wanting to experience busy city life. Life at Foster's must be busy and complicated enough to want to visit a city that never sleeps in order to get away from it all. It might add to the stress. I see her more the self pampering type, like visiting a spa or enjoying a hotel suite in a tropical climate. Aaah, peace and quiet!

But contrary to peace and quiet, I can really see her enjoying mildly extreme sports like snow boarding, white-water rafting, bungee jumping, rock climbing and mountain biking. I can picture her getting active to release tension and stress from her every day life. And maybe releasing an occasional whoop at the adrenaline rush. Then relax in the peace and quiet when the day is over. Yeah, I can see her taking a vacation like that. :frankiesmile:

Mac-a-lacka 05-23-2008 10:17 PM

I can kind of picture Frankie horse back-riding.:frankiesmile:
Or maybe a trip to Europe.8D

WiltsAKGirl17 05-25-2008 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-a-lacka (Post 79650)
I can kind of picture Frankie horse back-riding.:frankiesmile:
Or maybe a trip to Europe.8D

Ooh, nice one. (Does anyone recall Frankie's reaction when they all got home from the airport after Mac "lost" their tickets in FGTE? I don't.)

Horseback rading would be good for her, too.

Mac-a-lacka 05-26-2008 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WiltsAKGirl17 (Post 79781)
Ooh, nice one. (Does anyone recall Frankie's reaction when they all got home from the airport after Mac "lost" their tickets in FGTE? I don't.)

(Shouting) Grandma, we're home!:frankiemad:
Barging through the door rather upset.

But she's also the only one who didn't scold Mac.:)

Dragonrider1227 06-17-2008 01:23 PM

I'd like to take her to Disney World, but then that's my answer to everything 8D

Hinata4 07-04-2008 01:05 AM

I'd take Frankie to a camp, or something. I don't know, but I thing she'd like it :frankiesmile: .

L.G. 07-04-2008 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Xroc88 (Post 79544)
Okay then how about make a spin-off show about her trying to find her parents. If wilt goes to find his creator then why cant we see Frankie trying to find her parents?

A spin-off for Frankie? I don't see why not: there's talk about a Billy and Mandy spin-off. I'd love to see a spin-off that's focused on Frankie.

Cassini90125 07-04-2008 03:20 PM

It's a doable idea but it assumes that Frankie's parents are missing. We don't know that, or anything about them at all, really. For all we know they could be living just down the street and simply not be on speaking terms with Frankie. I'm hoping that we'll get more details about her parents, and other aspects of her background, in the few remaining episodes. There are too many mysteries surrounding my favorite character; I want some answers. :frankiesmile:

L.G. 07-04-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 82143)
It's a doable idea but it assumes that Frankie's parents are missing. We don't know that, or anything about them at all, really. For all we know they could be living just down the street and simply not be on speaking terms with Frankie. I'm hoping that we'll get more details about her parents, and other aspects of her background, in the few remaining episodes. There are too many mysteries surrounding my favorite character; I want some answers. :frankiesmile:

:oNot on speaking terms?? What could Frankie have done that her parents won't speak to her??

Xroc88 07-04-2008 07:27 PM

She Probably owned them with her awesomeness.

Cassini90125 07-04-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by L.G. (Post 82150)
:oNot on speaking terms?? What could Frankie have done that her parents won't speak to her??

I didn't state it as a fact, only as a possibility. It's speculation; as I've said, we simply have no information about her parents or the current state of Frankie's relationship with them, if any. During the course of the series she's mentioned them only once, in Who Let The Dogs In?, and all she said about them was that they told her there's no such things as ghosts.

We've discussed this topic before but with the show winding down there's the possibility that we may finally get some answers; if so, I'm willing to bet we'll get them in the series-ending movie, which would be a good place for a lot of loose ends to be tied up. Either way, it couldn't hurt to take another look at the subject of Frankie's parents here and now. What does everyone think? Are Frankie and her parents on speaking terms? Are they estranged? If so, why? Or have we never seen them for no reason other than the writers never having gotten around to writing about them? My own feeling is that there's some degree of estrangement between them, and I think it's related to her work at Foster's. I have long believed that the reason Frankie doesn't have an Imaginary Friend is because her parents wouldn't allow her to have one (for whatever reason); having been denied one of her own, she went to work at Foster's to take care of everyone else's IF's and make sure they get adopted so that other kids might have what she never had herself. There could be some lingering resentment over all that on both sides. That's my belief, anyway, at least the basics of it; there are many other possibilities, ranging from sensible to ridiculous. (One theory I heard in the ridiculous category was that Frankie works at Foster's because a judge sentenced her to do community service there. Possible, but highly unlikely.)

Okay, I'm done rambling. What do the rest of you think? :frankiesmile:

L.G. 07-04-2008 08:05 PM

I doubt there's bitterness between Frankie and her parents: I fear that her parents may actually have passed away when she was very young. Sad yes, but IMO, why else haven't we heard from them or Frankie's grandpa for that matter?

Cassini90125 07-04-2008 08:20 PM

That is a possibility. It's likely that Madame Foster's husband is gone but I don't think that's the case with her parents, mostly because I doubt Cartoon Network would want the subject of dead parents brought up in a children's cartoon. It could make for a powerful storyline but the execs aren't likely to see it that way.

Lynnie 07-04-2008 11:03 PM

Regarding Frankie's parents, the way I always saw it was that for some reason or other they couldn't care for her, so Madame F gained custody of her. Perhaps one of them is deceased, and the other just wasn't responsible enough to care for a child by themselves. So the state handed her over to her grandmother instead. I've also entertained the thought of them living on the other side of the country, and Madame F wanted to "show off" her IFs to her granddaughter when she was little. Frankie loved it there so much, she asked to stay, and vacations just to visit turned into a permanent residence sometime during her teen years, perhaps when she started middle school or something. As for why her parents have been mentioned really only once in the entire history of the show so far, it's possible she wasn't very close to her parents and, not that she has any remorse or anything, she simply doesn't think about them much, and in turn doesn't bring them up. Madame F isn't in the show enough I don't think for us to really expect her to bring them up, although she may bring them up "off camera".

And as for why Frankie never had an IF herself, my thoughts have always been that she spent so much time at Foster's, whether visiting or actually living there, to feel the need to imagine up one of her own. :frankiesmile:

Cassini90125 07-30-2008 03:16 PM

For those interested, one of the things I asked Craig about at the Con this year was the nagging question of what Frankie's college major was. Surprisingly, he told me that they never picked one. So I guess we can keep speculating until doomsday, but none of us will be completely right or wrong. I'm going with social work, for now, anyway; it's a difficult major, as Dylan noted, it's a pretty good fit for her, and several people I know who went into that field have similar personalities. But in truth her major could be something completely unrelated, like mathematics or agriculture. We'll likely never know for sure.

I also learned that Frankie's natural father is in fact Madam Foster's son, as most people have assumed, so ideas about her being an Imaginary Friend herself or adopted or an alien can safely be thrown out.

Xroc88 07-30-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 84182)
For those interested, one of the things I asked Craig about at the Con this year was the nagging question of what Frankie's college major was. Surprisingly, he told me that they never picked one. So I guess we can keep speculating until doomsday, but none of us will be completely right or wrong. I'm going with social work, for now, anyway; it's a difficult major, as Dylan noted, it's a pretty good fit for her, and several people I know who went into that field have similar personalities. But in truth her major could be something completely unrelated, like mathematics or agriculture. We'll likely never know for sure.

I also learned that Frankie's natural father is in fact Madam Foster's son, as most people have assumed, so ideas about her being an Imaginary Friend herself or adopted or an alien can safely be thrown out.

hahah frankie an alien? I lol'ed.:frankiesmile:

Cassini90125 07-30-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Xroc88 (Post 84185)
hahah frankie an alien? I lol'ed.:frankiesmile:

It was one of the sillier theories about her background, yeah. Don't recall where I read it, though. I don't think anyone other than the loon who dreamed it up ever believed it. ::)

Medikor 07-30-2008 04:29 PM

I think Frankie being an imaginary friend would make more sense than an alien. I could see a very lonely and neglected child thinking up a loving and thoughtful individual like her, but an alien? That may just be thinking a little too hard.;)

Xroc88 07-30-2008 04:32 PM

I really don't think frankie's a IF, i would want her to be a human like us.

Howard 07-30-2008 06:59 PM

There is only one Frankie (who had a father), and an IF Frankie (CN Comic story), and that's it! :frankiesmile:

Medikor 07-31-2008 10:24 AM

I wasn't saying that she is an IF, just that there are more likely theories than her being an alien. I'm with you guys that Frankie's all human.:D

Mr. Marshmallow 08-02-2008 10:59 PM

I find it laughable that the even remote possibility or thought of Frankie being more "likely" to be an alien or an imaginary friend simply because there's so much mystery behind her life. I mean, I think that's really putting too much thought into her life and just trying to come up with something totally outrageous.

I think Frankie is as simple and sweet and good natured as the honest person I have always seen when I watched the show. While there may be loads of twilight zone sounding scenarios behind her and her parents lack of reference, I don't think there is the slightest doubt that she is who she is: Frankie Foster.

I don't think she's a ghost, alien, imaginary friend or anything of the sort. As far as her parents go, I always stood by the whole death issue but I'm aware that's perceived as too negative for a kids show. Though I do disagree personally. A thought just came to me, what if Frankie's parents divorced and left her?

Like maybe neither one could come to a child visitation agreement, or maybe they were arguing and Frankie ran away from home. Madame Foster could have been seen as a kind of safeguard or escape from all the arguing and fighting. I understand this sounds a bit extreme cause this is Frankie after all.

However, I personally don't see why Frankie's parents can't be "bad" parents simply because she's so sweet. There are plenty of people who come from crappy families or from rotten parents and turn out great. I mean, Frankie has literally made NO mention or reference to them at all outside that ONE "Who let the dogs out" episode.

No reunions, no mail, no e-mail, no calls, no visits, nothing. Maybe her and her parents had a horrible falling out and they never wanted to see each other again. That might explain Frankie's sense of responsibility, maybe she strived to have something her parents never gave her or make up for lost time.

I also feel Frankie has a real sense of loneliness. Outside of the imaginary friends, we never hear any mention of her friends or buddies outside of Kathy and her infamous failed date with Dylan. Which to me makes me want to know even more about her, particularly how such a wonderful lady could be so lonely and especially how could she hide so much about her from everyone.

pitbulllady 08-03-2008 09:02 AM

It's really unusual for parents to divorce, and NEITHER of them get custody of the kid(s), unless there is a lot more to it than that. If there are issues like drug abuse, or child abuse by both parents, a court will award custody to a relative, or, none suitable being available, the state. Those situations do not happen often, though. Most of the time, either one parent will get full custody, or they'll share custody. There is a tendency among the courts to award custody to the mother unless she can be proved unfit or does not WANT custody. I tend to stick with the theory that something bad happened to Frankie's parents, like a car accident in which both were killed, perhaps. She's only mentioned them once, in "Who Let the Dogs In", and her memories of them do not seem to indicate that they were drug addicts or abusive but were, in fact, caring parents who tried to comfort and reassure a young child who was scared of ghosts. There's been no other mention of them, or anything to indicate that Frankie visits with or talks to at least one of them. We know that she's lived with her grandmother since she was around five or six years old, from the photos in "The Big Picture", so something happened to both parents between the time they told her that there was no such thing as ghosts, and her coming to live permanently with her grandmother.

pitbulllady

Mr. Marshmallow 08-03-2008 10:05 AM

My point was merely to take a note to bring up other possibilities that are usually ignored because they'd be "negative" for a kids show. I also believe something bad happened to Frankie's parents but if she's not too cracked up to talk about them if they are dead, I don't see how drug or bad parents would be any different.

I know its unusual for neither parent to get a child in a divorce, but it DOES happen. I was just trying to bring up a possibility that is possible and is usually greeted with implausibility simply because its more grim or negative in nature. That's all.

I figured after the alien and imaginary friend theory was brought up, a little reality based theory wouldn't be so bad, even if it was associated with more negativity.

Medikor 08-04-2008 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 84762)
I think Frankie is as simple and sweet and good natured as the honest person I have always seen when I watched the show. While there may be loads of twilight zone sounding scenarios behind her and her parents lack of reference, I don't think there is the slightest doubt that she is who she is: Frankie Foster.

That is a perfect way to describe her and her unexplained past, Mr.M! I couldn't have said it better myself.:D

L.G. 08-18-2008 07:49 PM

Thought I changed gears a bit. I've been wondering...if Frankie wasn't driving the bus, and Madame Foster allowed Frankie to get a car of her own, what would she drive?

Cassini90125 08-18-2008 07:56 PM

Hmm... not something I can really answer; all cars look pretty much alike to me. 8D I would guess it would depend on her budget to a large extent but other than that I think she'd lean more towards practical rather than flash.

Lynnie 08-18-2008 08:22 PM

I can easily picture Frankie dreaming of a sporty car, perhaps a convertible, but when it comes to actually making the choice, I too can only picture her with a reliable convenient car rather than one to show off. In fact, I can almost see her teasingly mocking her grandma for driving a Firebird. :P But when it comes to the car she herself choses to drive, I see a coup or maybe an SUV- something dependable with room enough for a number of friends (whether human or imaginary), and yet "young", without being too flashy.


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