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Sparky 11-09-2006 04:40 PM

There is a difference between being unintelligent and just not thinking. "Stupid" is a vague term that can define either. Bloo isn't unintelligent but he often does not think, therefore in a *sense* of the word, he can be stupid. :) It just depends on how you define stupidity, really.

Kzinistzerg 11-09-2006 06:15 PM

Correct. Poeple with raw intelligence can still be stupid, in my view.

Emma 11-09-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 14544)
There is a difference between being unintelligent and just not thinking. "Stupid" is a vague term that can define either. Bloo isn't unintelligent but he often does not think, therefore in a *sense* of the word, he can be stupid. :) It just depends on how you define stupidity, really.

Yeah! That's what I was...attempting to say earlier. Inarticulateness thy name is Emma. ;)

BlooCheese 11-09-2006 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kzinistzerg (Post 14573)
Correct. Poeple with raw intelligence can still be stupid, in my view.

Ah yes. I agree, as I am living proof.

LaBlooGirl 11-10-2006 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sparky (Post 14544)
There is a difference between being unintelligent and just not thinking. "Stupid" is a vague term that can define either. Bloo isn't unintelligent but he often does not think, therefore in a *sense* of the word, he can be stupid. :) It just depends on how you define stupidity, really.

Okay so then I think a better word for him would be "clueless". Probably what's bothering me is that "stupid" has a rather strong conotation (sp?) to it, and isn't an appropriate term for him. Of course this is my own opinion, and you all know I could go on forever when debating (lol) but I just can't agree on it.
In that same respect, if Wilt was called "stupid", for whatever reason, it would probably bother the many fans or even just the people who know his personality well and don't understand the use of the word. That's kind of how I feel about Bloo, so maybe I'm being a little biased, but he simply is NOT stupid to me, and I'll hold to that. (He's selfish, sometimes a big jerk, and naive/clueless, yes all those things, but not stupid.)

And here I go, on and on and on...:gooblab:
lol

BlooCheese 11-10-2006 12:23 PM

I understand what you're getting at. Bloo's no Einstein, but he's definitely not "stupid" in the sense that he's a thick-headed, dimwitted numskull either. Some of his ideas may be brash and silly, but he's still clever enough to come up with brilliant schemes and solve things on his own. After all, who was it who discovered the secret behind the photos in "The Big Picture" and outsmarted Mac in "I Only Have Surprise for You"?

bloonuggets 11-10-2006 04:28 PM

And next week, she returns in "Make-Believe It Or Not!"

heartless95 11-12-2006 01:04 PM

If goo isn`t a bigpart she shouldn`t be there it`s just dumb

Kzinistzerg 11-13-2006 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooCheese (Post 14584)
Ah yes. I agree, as I am living proof.

Me too. Hence my confidence in my statement.

Nathander 11-17-2006 04:31 PM

As I've stated in the "Make Believe it or Not Thread", that episode, in my mind, confirmed that Goo has some form of abandonment issue. While it is natural for kids to react irritably and unhappily when they feel they're being ignored, Goo took it to an extreme. Not the fact that she created the IFs she created, but the fact that she couldn't let go of having failed to be able to keep up with Mac in their little "one-up" contest. While that wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with an abandonment issue, I personally think that she feels she has to prove herself, a lot like Bloo seems to at times, and that if she fails she feels she'll be all left alone. Probably groundless speculation, but it's my current belief.

Something else got me: they showed her at her house in MBION, but there were absolutely no shots of her parents. Not one. While it may or may not mean anything, you have to wonder how much attention her parents really give to her. While we know that they don't want to restrict her creativity, they don't appear to do anything to let it flourish, let alone help her current self-esteem. And I think that's what gets me: they don't want to stiffle her creativity so she'll have good self-esteem when she's a teen, but they're ignoring the fact that she already has lousy self-esteem. She feels the need to keep fighting on whatever grounds she's already fighting without giving up even when it's over, she has limited social skills, she herself seems fairly complacent with being ignored at times (she didn't really start interacting again until Wilt brought her back into the fold of the game), ect.

I'm just saying, you have to be a somewhat aloof parent to not notice your child already has what you wanted to prevent them from getting.

OVERANALYSIS! :gooblab:

billytheskink 11-17-2006 05:58 PM

Overanalysis seems a fair term to tab your theory. I don't see the writers going that far, but I suppose it is certainly possible.

HappyFoppy 11-19-2006 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by heartless95 (Post 15056)
If goo isn`t a bigpart she shouldn`t be there it`s just dumb

People think she's a fun character, so do I, and if the crew wants her in, they put her in. Every show has some small minor characters. I guess the whole community of the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy would look different without Fred Fredburger, and that the making of Foster's would be hard, if you had to have a house full of Imaginary friends that all have to be major. If you'd only take the major characters of this show, the whole house would be EMPTY. So just live with those minor characters. Good?

Mr. Marshmallow 11-19-2006 11:07 AM

Minor characters are fine but like I said before about Goo and even Cheese, characters are only good unless there over abused. Goo and Cheese don't really NEED to be in the show unless the episode is strictly surrounded around them like "Make Believe it or Not" or "The Big Cheese".

Sometimes it's funny like in "Inferanl Slumber" but other times it just seems like a pointless addition like in "The Big Picture" or "Bus the two of us". I don't think it was critically important to get Goo in there. Granted hearing Herriman speak jibberish was funny, but she didn't do much other then that.

Goo's latest episode did require her of course but other then that, I think she needs a break from air time just to make it easier to take in. I liked Goo's return here because it was a while since we last saw her, so it wasn't too bad seeing her again. But it'll get bad if they over use her too much.

lucyrocks73 11-20-2006 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HappyFoppy (Post 16579)
People think she's a fun character, so do I, and if the crew wants her in, they put her in. Every show has some small minor characters. I guess the whole community of the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy would look different without Fred Fredburger, and that the making of Foster's would be hard, if you had to have a house full of Imaginary friends that all have to be major. If you'd only take the major characters of this show, the whole house would be EMPTY. So just live with those minor characters. Good?

Exactly.

And, once again, let me compare Foster's to being in a play.

Y'see, in muscials and other plays, everyone really, REALLY wants the lead. They don't think that there is any point to having a part unless it's huge. But the chorus and background people MAKE the play. Without them, there's just a big stage and a shorter show (hey, all the chorus numbers, occasional humor ditties, and other stuff would be gone). For example, I'm Kelci (the piano playing chick?) in High School Musical right now. The entire show is about a high school, of course. Not just the six main leads. What high school has six people? You have to make it look realistic.

I never said that some of the chorus people don't bug me with their endless whining of, "But I'm so much better than [insert name here]! Why didn't I get the part?" Been there, done that... The chorus days were fun...

Just like the chorus people, the minor characters need to be there...

Or else there isn't Foster's, or there isn't a High School, or any kind of enviorment you want to show.

I always thought being in the chorus was fun, because you could have fun without a lot of pressure. Well, a minor character can add (or take away) from an episode because they don't have to do anything to the plot. The pressure is gone.

Of course, Goo doesn't always do that... Take the last episode. I think she's pushing her way towards being a main-esque (ha) character in that she's had to solve the plot of an episode before.

I like that happy medium- Goo can be a minor character ("I Only Have Surprise for You"), or a main character ("Make Believe it Or Not"). I think that it's pretty cool that a character can do that. I mean, you couldn't have an episode without Mac, because, y'know, he's Mac- one of the MAIN characters.

And now I'm ranting and babbling, so I'll stop now... :bloogrin

-Marty :goo:

BlooCheese 11-20-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by heartless95 (Post 15056)
If goo isn`t a bigpart she shouldn`t be there it`s just dumb

If we should get rid of Goo, then we should also get rid of the several dozen imaginary friends that only serve as background characters. And then Frankie's life would be a lot easier because she only has to care for Bloo, Coco, Wilt, and Eduardo, Foster's probably wouldn't even be needed, and the house would be abandoned. Characters that don't have major roles are still necessary and contribute to the overall caliber of the show. They are important.

lucyrocks73 11-20-2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BlooCheese (Post 16836)
If we should get rid of Goo, then we should also get rid of the several dozen imaginary friends that only serve as background characters. And then Frankie's life would be a lot easier because she only has to care for Bloo, Coco, Wilt, and Eduardo, Foster's probably wouldn't even be needed, and the house would be abandoned. Characters that don't have major roles are still necessary and contribute to the overall caliber of the show. They are important.

(*nods in agreement*)

Minor characters rock. And it seems like the main cast has fun doing their voices occasionally...

-Marty :goo:

basilsunshine 11-27-2006 03:55 PM

I was so happy that Goo wasn't even mentioned in Good Wilt Hunting. I know this sounds mean, but without her in it, I was much more pleased with the outcome. I made a vow that if Goo ended up adopting Wilt in the end, I'd vow to never watch the new episodes, if not for a good laugh. But I couldn't desert dear old FHFIF. Even if I tried. Goo is just really blahblah:gooblab: . She's just like "OohI'msofunnycauseIcantalkfastandknowhowtosolveev eryproblemespeciallywhenitcomestoCheeselikeinthats ecurityepisodeeventhoughLouiseshouldhavebeentheone causeshe'shiscreatoerandshouldknowhimmorethanIdooo ooooo!" just like that.

I'm really sorry to the Goo fans out there. I just had to get it out.

some guy you dont know 11-28-2006 06:21 PM

yeah, she is pretty annoying. but then again, i guess thats how i can relate to her. i just dont talk at 20 miles a minuite. and im pretty sure that if imaginary friends could come real, that id be fosters favorite person.

The bloo 12-02-2006 09:19 AM

Goo is very annoying

Jabberwocky 12-02-2006 01:52 PM

Awww what? Goo is my favorite character. She has yellow cowboy boots! I wouldn't mind her being in more episodes unless it was completely totally totally pointless.

Nathander 12-02-2006 11:15 PM

ANd that's the thing; I think Goo is a great character when used in moderation. She's, in my mind, more of a minor character than an actual major character, and I think that she's better used as support than taking up the limelight. Not that it's bad if she's in the limelight once in awhile; however, when she is constantly, it becomes a problem. I mean, she obviously has her fans, but it's no where near a high enough fanbase that she can become a main support for the show.

I love the character, they just need to let her lay low for a little while.

X-Cheese-fangirl-x 12-03-2006 11:08 AM

Goo is cool, I am basically the British version of her but a tiny bit on the mature side, I don't have the same looks as her and probably taller.

BabyElephant 12-03-2006 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by X-Cheese-fangirl-x (Post 20158)
Goo is cool, I am basically the British version of her but a tiny bit on the mature side, I don't have the same looks as her and probably taller.

Ha, I would love to hear Goo with a British accent! Actually, there could be a "foreign" equivalent to all the IFs...a French Bloo, an Egyptian Eduardo, a German Mr. Herriman...:herriman:

Thornwhistle 12-03-2006 12:04 PM

. . . or an italian speaking Wilt.

some guy you dont know 12-03-2006 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Thornwhistle (Post 20173)
. . . or an italian speaking Wilt.

how about a spanish coco? ive always wanted to hear coco with a spanish accent. although its not much of a diffrence. and thinking about these foreign fosters makes me go back to topic, imagine if goo were to actually imagine them? like that japanese speaking bloo

megatron01 01-18-2007 01:54 PM

She is the only secondary character that I like. And I just keep rambling on how much I like her... :gooblab:

Crash-N-Cortex 01-18-2007 04:16 PM

Goo is a pretty, cool character to have in this show. She does talk a whole lot, but I'm quite used to it. Goo still needs to control her imagination though, so that she won't accidently create an evil force.

lalagooeyhead 02-21-2007 12:25 PM

Goo. She is uncreditedly awesome.
 
Why does no one care about Goo as much as the other characters??

Is she not one of the mostest bestest character like ever?? Haha all I know is that she is not considered a main character and it hurts me deeply. Please support Goo-- you know you want to!-- by adding her myspace!

http://myspace.com/hillarybritneylolipopstar :goo:

Nathander 02-21-2007 05:27 PM

Unfortunately, lala, I have to disagree. While I love Goo to pieces, I have no desire for her to become a main character. She's a character best served in small doses, unlike Cheese, who is a character better served in no doses (yes, that might sound hypocritical, but I honestly don't care by this point). There are very few times I think she's successfully been used as a major character in a story; see "Neighbor Pains" and "The Big Cheese" as examples of this.

Really, as I've said before: I adore Goo, I just want her to come by a little less often than she does.

Mr. Marshmallow 02-23-2007 11:02 PM

I agree with Nathander. Goo is just fine where she is, and does not by any means have to or need to become a central character. It wouldn't be smart for many reasons, one of the biggest being the show already has a wide cast of characters as we speak. The Foster's 5, Madame Foster, Herriman, Frankie etc.

Episodes are often dividing characters up and focusing on just one or two certain individuals, adding Goo to the mix would only increase the division, not to mention the fact that as we have all seen, just because your a main character doesn't mean you will be in every episode and be a big part of every plot.

Goo has certainly become a much more tolerable and enjoyable character since she was served humble pie in MBIN, despite the fact that episode still served as a vehicle for her ego. But what makes Goo less workable as a main character is her entire gimmick: her gabbing, that's basically what makes Goo unique.

The fact she dresses like a rodeo clown (and at times acts like one), makes it hard for me to see her as a main cast member. Her gabby mouth can't really function in every episode and I think she serves better for timely placed plot points rather then trying to stuff her into main cast mate slots every ep.

Goo is fine right where she is, and so is Cheese, I'm enjoying his absence considering that the episodes recently have not starred him and still entertained me a great deal. Even "Good Wilt Hunting" functioned just fine without Cheese or Goo, so like I said before, I think Goo is fine where she is.

I don't hate her and no one should take my words as flames either, I'm just saying that Goo is doing just fine where she is and I think she's better off here then having to be tossed into the main character mix.

Nyo 02-24-2007 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 34862)
I think she's better off here then having to be tossed into the main character mix.

YESTHANKYOUVERYMUCH.

Even thought I posted here earlier, I just want to post my more...detailed opinion on her, if you know what I mean. Before I was just plain anti-Goo, but now I'm neutral for her, although it's leaning towards anti-Goo once more. Be warned, there's a long post ahead:

Anywhoo...In my eyes, I don't think she's a terrible character, but she's not a awesome character. My first thoughts on her were rather negative, since Go Goo Go, I really hated disliked her. She let hell break loose on Mac, causing him to be near-banned from Foster's. True, she did redeem herself towards that end of the episode, but that didn't make me like her more.

Her 2nd role in The Big Picture was very good and she didn't do anything that would make me dislike her more, but it raised points on my "Pro-Goo" scale. This, and Bus The Two of Us, are the only episodes that had her in good roles, IMO (No offense to anybody). :frankiesmile:

Her 3rd sighting in Neighbor Pains, unfortuantly, caused me to lose almost all respect for her. I was starting to like her, but then this "Bossy Goo" bullcrap shows up. Frankie, Wilt and Ed go through enough torture enough as it is, and Goo just makes it worse. I would like to call her a certain word, but I can get banned for it.

Her 4th time with the friends in Infernal Slumber...well, I'm a bit wishy-washy about this episode, since Goo was a bit sexist. I really hate sexist things, and this caused even more anti-Goo points. However, she did get some pro-Goo points for calling Cheese a spirit. But, other than that...she's meh in this episode.

In the 5th appearance, I Only Have Surprise for You, she was meh as well. Insulting Mac got herself a whopper of anti-Goo points (yeah I know that's getting old but I don't care). Since I was annoyed by her in this eppie, I praise Mac for bounding and gagging her with a gift in her pie hole. Please don't jump down my throat for that. She was a part of Bloo's plan, so she got what she deserves. :scaryberry:

The 6th eppie with her, Bus The Two of Us, was a great one and Goo, thankfully, won many pro-Goo points, especially with Boy of Spotted Tongue and Japanese Bloo. I even offically turned pro-Goo when I saw this whole episode. :goo:

But with her 7th show, it all crashed and burned when she she had her "Leave it me 'cuz I'm a pro" deal. She was rather arrogant and braggy when Frankie thanked her. I hate people like that.

The 8th she-bang, Make Believe it or Not, she was once again meh. She got her fair share of hell when she made the video-game-type friends, and she got some pro-Goo points for the imangination game she made with the others.

I'm in no mood for flames because I worked hard on this post, so if you got nothing nice to say, say nothing at all.

Cassini90125 02-24-2007 11:42 AM

Excellent analysis. I can't say that I agree with all of it, but it was definitely well thought out and well written. Great job! :)

Nathander 02-25-2007 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 34862)
I agree with Nathander. Goo is just fine where she is, and does not by any means have to or need to become a central character. It wouldn't be smart for many reasons, one of the biggest being the show already has a wide cast of characters as we speak. The Foster's 5, Madame Foster, Herriman, Frankie etc.

Episodes are often dividing characters up and focusing on just one or two certain individuals, adding Goo to the mix would only increase the division, not to mention the fact that as we have all seen, just because your a main character doesn't mean you will be in every episode and be a big part of every plot.

Goo has certainly become a much more tolerable and enjoyable character since she was served humble pie in MBIN, despite the fact that episode still served as a vehicle for her ego. But what makes Goo less workable as a main character is her entire gimmick: her gabbing, that's basically what makes Goo unique.

The fact she dresses like a rodeo clown (and at times acts like one), makes it hard for me to see her as a main cast member. Her gabby mouth can't really function in every episode and I think she serves better for timely placed plot points rather then trying to stuff her into main cast mate slots every ep.

Goo is fine right where she is, and so is Cheese, I'm enjoying his absence considering that the episodes recently have not starred him and still entertained me a great deal. Even "Good Wilt Hunting" functioned just fine without Cheese or Goo, so like I said before, I think Goo is fine where she is.

I don't hate her and no one should take my words as flames either, I'm just saying that Goo is doing just fine where she is and I think she's better off here then having to be tossed into the main character mix.

I honestly believe this to be one of the few times I've agreed with you in entirety with what you have to say. Good show, sir! :)

Crash-N-Cortex 02-25-2007 08:25 PM

Goo is one of favorite characters on Foster's, so I glad to see her in upcoming Foster's episodes.

FostersFriend 05-17-2007 09:49 AM

I think Goo can be really helpfull when the time is needed. She has her own creative ways to figure things out. Example was when Cheese was the only one to know the security code, she was pretty smart to know that dancing would help him call out the security code sounds. And thank goodness she has an active imagination, Bloo and Mac would have gotten in alot of trouble if it wasn't for those two imaginary friends she made of them. (Wonder who asdopted them?)

But yeah Goo has her moments.

Ub3rD4n 05-20-2007 08:54 PM

Well, I for one would love to see her as a main character, but I can see why they might not want to do that. After all, she's not everyone's cup of tea. Although the same could be said for all the main characters, those are the ones that were there from the start, and attracted people to the show. So if people like her so much, there should be a show with her (or someone like her) in a more starring role (though not THE star, that just wouldn't work for Goo) which is seperate from Fosters, so that people who dislike her aren't forced to see her every episode. And a show with Goo as a main character would probably rock!

So, in conclusion, I think you guys are maybe a bit harsh on Goo, but that's your opinion and I'm fine with that. More Goo for the rest of us.:goo:

kageri 05-21-2007 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ub3rD4n (Post 44571)
Well, I for one would love to see her as a main character, but I can see why they might not want to do that. After all, she's not everyone's cup of tea. Although the same could be said for all the main characters, those are the ones that were there from the start, and attracted people to the show. So if people like her so much, there should be a show with her (or someone like her) in a more starring role (though not THE star, that just wouldn't work for Goo) which is seperate from Fosters, so that people who dislike her aren't forced to see her every episode. And a show with Goo as a main character would probably rock!

A show with Goo as a main character would probably give me dangerously high blood pressure.

Cassini90125 05-21-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 44601)
A show with Goo as a main character would probably give me dangerously high blood pressure.

Or a brain hemorrhage. Sorry, but I think a show like that would be very hard to take. I liked Goo in "Go Goo Go" but for me it's been all downhill from there.

koosie 05-21-2007 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 44614)
Or a brain hemorrhage. Sorry, but I think a show like that would be very hard to take. I liked Goo in "Go Goo Go" but for me it's been all downhill from there.


I've really enjoyed all Goo's contributions because she's pure cartoonism but I would happily compromise a few less appearances for a couple of properly Goo-heavy episodes. An entire show at that pace may be rather taxing for the average viewer.

cartman414 07-28-2007 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by koosie (Post 44623)
I've really enjoyed all Goo's contributions because she's pure cartoonism but I would happily compromise a few less appearances for a couple of properly Goo-heavy episodes. An entire show at that pace may be rather taxing for the average viewer.

And quite possibly the animation team as well. She defines near-perpetual motion with a bit of crazy contortion, especially due to her long, swinging limbs. Grey DeLisle is crazy to be able to keep up with her.


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