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pitbulllady 08-28-2006 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 2988)
Probably Bloo or Mac, seeing how they're the main characters....


I absolutely cannot see Wilt telling something that important or serious to Bloo, knowing that Bloo would just blow it off or act totally disinterested. Bloo is simply too immature and too self-centered to be able to sympathize with the physical, mental and emotional trauma that Wilt has been through. It would be like a Vietnam vet and former POW trying to tell of what happened to him to a five-year-old child. Mac would be a bit more understanding, but even still, I am not sure that Wilt would burden an eight-year-old with something of that nature. If he does wind up telling that story, it might be either to an adult he trusts, like Frankie, or perhaps to someone from the press. In either case, though, I don't think that Wilt is going to be able to keep his story a secret for much longer. He's already showing signs that the stress is getting to him.

pitbulllady

Sims Katie 08-28-2006 01:26 PM

You say "of that nature" without knowing what the that and nature parts really are. It may not be as OMG tragic as we think.

Tonya 08-28-2006 01:41 PM

Yeah, that'd be a good idea, Wilt telling us his problams. I'm just coming up with random thoughts on how the show could start. We do know how stress has been getting to him latley, right? Well, remember in "Where There's a Wilt There's a Way" when he was pressured so much that he went off? Well, he could be under that same kind of pressure again, only this time THIS kind of pressure trigers his emotions from his past, he gets so mad that he practically snaps and blurts out his past in the midst of going off. Like, you know when something bad has happened to you (or you did something), and when the pressure becomes to much, you blurt it out without really meaning to? Then everyone keeps buging him all day about whatever he blurted untill he finally spits it out a little more, taking baby steps. Hmm, this theory kind of reminds me of "Bus the Two of Us", when the pressure became too much it practically drove him insane.

pitbulllady 08-28-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 3057)
You say "of that nature" without knowing what the that and nature parts really are. It may not be as OMG tragic as we think.


We KNOW that Wilt was NOT imagined that way by his creator, and even if he DID lose his arm and eye in an accident, something that could not have been prevented, it is STILL "OMG tragic"! Wilt's behavior, as has been discussed many, many times, is pretty typical for someone who has at least undergone severe physical and emotional trauma of some sort, whether or not it was caused by someone's deliberate act of violence.

pitbulllady

pitbulllady 08-28-2006 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Tonya (Post 3060)
Yeah, that'd be a good idea, Wilt telling us his problams. I'm just coming up with random thoughts on how the show could start. We do know how stress has been getting to him latley, right? Well, remember in "Where There's a Wilt There's a Way" when he was pressured so much that he went off? Well, he could be under that same kind of pressure again, only this time THIS kind of pressure trigers his emotions from his past, he gets so mad that he practically snaps and blurts out his past in the midst of going off. Like, you know when something bad has happened to you (or you did something), and when the pressure becomes to much, you blurt it out without really meaning to? Then everyone keeps buging him all day about whatever he blurted untill he finally spits it out a little more, taking baby steps. Hmm, this theory kind of reminds me of "Bus the Two of Us", when the pressure became too much it practically drove him insane.

That makes sense. We already know that the movie will start out with the Annual Imaginary Friend/Creators Picnic, and that Wilt's creator will once again fail to show up or respond. However, apparently this has been the case ever since Wilt showed up at Foster's, so just WHY this particular year should be different, and why he will just NOW decide to go find his creator after all this time(what is it, 22 years?) waits to be seen. It does appear, though, that Wilt has been getting closer and closer to "going over the edge" with recent episodes, so apparently he's having trouble dealing with something. Perhaps his frustration at not being able to locate his creator, or the grief of discovering that his creator is deceased, could be the trigger that results in him finally revealing his past to someone.


pitbulllady

antgirl1 08-28-2006 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 3062)
That makes sense. We already know that the movie will start out with the Annual Imaginary Friend/Creators Picnic, and that Wilt's creator will once again fail to show up or respond. However, apparently this has been the case ever since Wilt showed up at Foster's, so just WHY this particular year should be different, and why he will just NOW decide to go find his creator after all this time(what is it, 22 years?) waits to be seen. It does appear, though, that Wilt has been getting closer and closer to "going over the edge" with recent episodes, so apparently he's having trouble dealing with something. Perhaps his frustration at not being able to locate his creator, or the grief of discovering that his creator is deceased, could be the trigger that results in him finally revealing his past to someone.


pitbulllady

It was maybe because Wilt had lost patance (I know I spelt that wrong) with waiting for his creator to visit, and finally wants to know WHY he/she won't show up. I'd go look for MY family if they never came back for some reason, I'm not an adult, I still need my parents to care for me until I'm old enough to go off by myself. So, I'd understand why he'd go off looking for his creator after so many years of neglect. It happens because they still care about the people who loved/used to love the one in question. I'd do it cuz I care, so he'd probably do it cuz of that as well.

kageri 08-28-2006 05:35 PM

Re "telling stranger on a park bench": He probably wouldn't, but then again, people tell people they've never met on the Internet about serious issues because they don't know them. Or maybe that's not why. Still, I don't think he'd tell Mac or Bloo, as pitbulllady said -- Bloo.... I love him, but he has the attention span of a hummingbird with ADD and isn't the most compassionate person in the world. He'd probably think Mac was too young to hear his story (although, seeing as six-year-olds watch the show and it's on Cartoon Network, I really don't think it could be that bad).

Cassini90125 08-28-2006 05:54 PM

Nobody's mentioned Madam Foster; she'd be a pretty good choice, I think, to hear his story.

kageri 08-28-2006 06:02 PM

Yeah, that would be a good way to show the side of her that came out when she decided to make Foster's in the first place. Interesting change from her standard "kooky, sprightly old lady" thing.

scary_dream 08-28-2006 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 2970)
Someone has mentioned it before and I'll mention it again: Maybe the most trusting person might BE a stranger, like a tharipist. (I know I spelt that wrong)

There's a HUGE difference between a paid, trained therapist and some loon on a park bench, though.

I mean, if I've got something really heavy on MY mind, I don't get in my car and drive to the park to talk about it with some (possible) crazy sitting on the bench. Estimating on Wilt's secretive nature on the subject AND his want to not trouble others, I'd say this is relatvely unlikely.

I could, however, also perhaps see something like what was posted before, about how he might accidentally let it slip during an outburst.

Sims Katie 08-29-2006 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 3113)
Nobody's mentioned Madam Foster; she'd be a pretty good choice, I think, to hear his story.

I think she would already know by now.

LaBlooGirl 08-29-2006 06:37 AM

If any of this has been mentioned before, please forgive my mentioning again, I just can't remember.

Would Wilt's creator not want to show up out of GUILT? Because he/she was somehow involved (not even directly) with Wilt's injuries?

Or two...

Is Wilt denying his creator is not around? Does he go in search for someone whose not there, and no one has a clue about this? (That his creator is long dead, for example.) If there was an accident, for instance, the creator could have died and Wilt was the survivor.

Or perhaps we should take the title literally. Perhaps the sport of hunting caused some of Wilt's injuries...
That would be a shocker.
Just some thoughts....this is gonna eat at me until November! LOL

antgirl1 08-29-2006 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by LaBlooGirl (Post 3189)
If any of this has been mentioned before, please forgive my mentioning again, I just can't remember.

Would Wilt's creator not want to show up out of GUILT? Because he/she was somehow involved (not even directly) with Wilt's injuries?

Or two...

Is Wilt denying his creator is not around? Does he go in search for someone whose not there, and no one has a clue about this? (That his creator is long dead, for example.) If there was an accident, for instance, the creator could have died and Wilt was the survivor.

Or perhaps we should take the title literally. Perhaps the sport of hunting caused some of Wilt's injuries...
That would be a shocker.
Just some thoughts....this is gonna eat at me until November! LOL

Don't worry, it's already almost September, only about 2-3 months to go. :D

AND, it's airing the day after (not "Tommarow" XD) Thanksgiving! Weird!

And I'll bet that on the month that it airs, that it'll show ADs for it - I'll make sure to watch every last one of them! I don't care if they're short - even a little counts! They're ALL a piece of footage from the movie!

Fomalhaut 08-29-2006 11:32 AM

Well, I don't think it was his creator who did this to him, or at least not on purpose. Otherwise, why would he want to see him/her again?

- still lingering on the "Mac's Mom created Wilt" theory. Now, after Infernal Slumber, we can see that she doesn't know about Mac going to Foster's; probably she doesn't even know about Foster's! And, based on this, she DID really think that Mac was too old for an imaginary friend, she told him that not only because she wanted to get Bloo out of the house. A reason for not showing up! And remember - only Eduardo saw Mac's Mom, Wilt was out in the living room!

Sims Katie 08-29-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fomalhaut (Post 3237)
- still lingering on the "Mac's Mom created Wilt" theory. Now, after Infernal Slumber, we can see that she doesn't know about Mac going to Foster's; probably she doesn't even know about Foster's! And, based on this, she DID really think that Mac was too old for an imaginary friend, she told him that not only because she wanted to get Bloo out of the house. A reason for not showing up! And remember - only Eduardo saw Mac's Mom, Wilt was out in the living room!

So far, the episode description for GWH says Wilt's creator was male, and we know he was created by someone who loved basketball - that doesn't sound like Mac's mother. Also, Wilt has to search for his creator in the episode. Search where, down the street?

Fomalhaut 08-29-2006 12:00 PM

Wikipedia, maybe...? :P

Sims Katie 08-29-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fomalhaut (Post 3242)
Wikipedia, maybe...? :P

Lol, MapQuest? MySpace? 8D

LaBlooGirl 08-29-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 3241)
So far, the episode description for GWH says Wilt's creator was male, and we know he was created by someone who loved basketball - that doesn't sound like Mac's mother. Also, Wilt has to search for his creator in the episode. Search where, down the street?

LOL. Well for all we know, that could be the whole surprising irony in it....that Wilt's creator, whoever it may be, DOES live just down the street.
Wow, if I were Wilt and found that out, I'd be MAAAAD.
XD

pitbulllady 08-29-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 3241)
So far, the episode description for GWH says Wilt's creator was male, and we know he was created by someone who loved basketball - that doesn't sound like Mac's mother. Also, Wilt has to search for his creator in the episode. Search where, down the street?

The only source that says that Wilt's creator was male is Wikipedia.com, and we all know how reliable THAT is! The summary on Cartoon Network does not mention the gender of Wilt's creator at all. The Wikipedia summary is mere speculation, with no more grounds of reality than what any of us can come up with, myself included, and is based on the incorrect notion that only boys can be into sports, like basketball. That is simply untrue. While we've seen no overt evidence that Mac's mom was into basketball as a kid, we have also seen nothing to suggest that she WASN'T. As an adult, her priorities no doubt have changed greatly, especially with two boys to care for, rent to pay, and a career. There are many girls who love basketball and become quite obsessed with basketball players. For that matter, it's just as much speculation to assume that Wilt's creator was fond of basketball, though it's a very logical conclusion. What would we assume about BLOO'S creator, if we did not know Mac? Or of Red's creator, if we did not know Terrence? Those assumptions, based on what we see in the Imaginary Friends in question, would probably be totally wrong, wouldn't they? Wilt could just has well simply turned out with a fondness and natural ability in basketball, regardless of his creator's interests, just as Red had that fondness for flowers not shared with HIS creator.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 08-29-2006 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 3261)
The only source that says that Wilt's creator was male is Wikipedia.com, and we all know how reliable THAT is! The summary on Cartoon Network does not mention the gender of Wilt's creator at all. The Wikipedia summary is mere speculation, with no more grounds of reality than what any of us can come up with, myself included, and is based on the incorrect notion that only boys can be into sports, like basketball. That is simply untrue. While we've seen no overt evidence that Mac's mom was into basketball as a kid, we have also seen nothing to suggest that she WASN'T. As an adult, her priorities no doubt have changed greatly, especially with two boys to care for, rent to pay, and a career. There are many girls who love basketball and become quite obsessed with basketball players. For that matter, it's just as much speculation to assume that Wilt's creator was fond of basketball, though it's a very logical conclusion. What would we assume about BLOO'S creator, if we did not know Mac? Or of Red's creator, if we did not know Terrence? Those assumptions, based on what we see in the Imaginary Friends in question, would probably be totally wrong, wouldn't they? Wilt could just has well simply turned out with a fondness and natural ability in basketball, regardless of his creator's interests, just as Red had that fondness for flowers not shared with HIS creator.

pitbulllady

My thought was a girl who was the only basketball fan in the place she lived, and probably wanted someone who was like her - loved basketball. Ereka! (misspelled XD) Wilt is born, I guess. Then after whatever it was that happened to Wilt happened, the family has to move, and we know that he was abandoned there. After being abandoned, in some point, he goes to Foster's, where then he was not adopted. The end.

It's like a puzzle, you have to piece the pieces together to find out what it is. (saying you can't see a completed version of it) I think I ruined everything now. 8D

Sims Katie 08-29-2006 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 3261)
... based on the incorrect notion that only boys can be into sports, like basketball. That is simply untrue.

I never said that, I just said she didn't seem like the type.

Mac's mother is such a minor character that in many ways she's more like a plot device. And whether you agree with me or not, I don't think think she's Wilt's creator. I think its going to be someone we've never met.

pitbulllady 08-29-2006 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 3328)
I never said that, I just said she didn't seem like the type.

Mac's mother is such a minor character that in many ways she's more like a plot device. And whether you agree with me or not, I don't think think she's Wilt's creator. I think its going to be someone we've never met.

I never claimed that YOU said that, now did I? I DID say that whoever wrote that summary on Wikipedia.com is the ONLY source claiming that Wilt's creator was male, and that this person most likely based that notion on a belief that only a boy could be that much into sports to have created an IF that was also into a particular sport. What would be the reasoning, after all, for insisting that Wilt's creator HAS to be male, when there's been no evidence pointing to one gender over the other? My little hypothesis that Wilt was created by Mac's mom is just that-a hypothesis-though there is as much evidence to point in that direction as there is pointing towards his creator having been male by default. People's tastes and priorities change, often drastically, as they grow up. Things that meant a lot to a person when they were a kid often cease to have any importance to them as adults. Whoever created Wilt as a child might very well have been really obsessed with basketball, or a particular basketball player, but as time progressed, and that person grew up, began dating, got married, had kids, had to get a job, buy or rent a home, buy a car, and all the other hassels that are part of being an adult, that basketball obsession might very well become a dim and faded childhood memory...like his/her Imaginary Friend. I can say from personal experience that many of the things that were VERY important to me as a child, are all but forgotten now, and that most people who meet me probably would never figure me for "the type" to have liked those things at any point in my life.

pitbulllady

scary_dream 08-29-2006 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 3340)
People's tastes and priorities change, often drastically, as they grow up. Things that meant a lot to a person when they were a kid often cease to have any importance to them as adults.

I can vouch for that; whenever I was little, I wanted to be a ballerina SO bad. Now I'm just like "Eh... ballerina... no thanks."

I just came up with a theory, and I'm sorry if it might have been mentioned before, but what if Wilt got abandoned by accident? Like maybe for some reason he and his creator got separated by accident and he was left thinking he or she abandoned him and the creator was left thinking that Wilt didn't like him or her anymore. I mean, this would be especially plausible if they had just had some sort of argument or misunderstanding or something. That would also kind of explain why the creator never came to Foster's... maybe they created Wilt somewhat in their image (abandoned or not, you can tell that he was a pretty nice guy to begin with) and is extremely careful not to tread on others' feelings and therefore doesn't want to "bother" him if they think he's happier there without them.

While it of course doesn't explain the injuries (they could have happened anywhere in between separation and Foster's), it could explain Wilt's abandonment issues and weakness to become a door mat to just about anyone... he might not want to make others angry with him for fear of being forsaken at the drop of a hat again.

Sims Katie 08-30-2006 01:59 AM

That's also possible, scary.

Another idea is that his creator isn't unkind but simply outgrew imaginary friends and doesn't think about him. Wilt's been at Foster's for almost 20 years, so whoever imagined him would be an adult now. Imaginary friends would be the last thing on their mind (Look at Imaginary Man and Nemesister. Their creators did come back, but not until they were already grown up with children of their own, and only because they heard about the friends again)

pitbulllady 08-30-2006 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sims Katie (Post 3390)
That's also possible, scary.

Another idea is that his creator isn't unkind but simply outgrew imaginary friends and doesn't think about him. Wilt's been at Foster's for almost 20 years, so whoever imagined him would be an adult now. Imaginary friends would be the last thing on their mind (Look at Imaginary Man and Nemesister. Their creators did come back, but not until they were already grown up with children of their own, and only because they heard about the friends again)


Yeah, and the episode called much attention to how unusual it was for adults to reclaim their Imaginary Friends from childhood, too. Frankie was so stunned that it was like she didn't know quite how to react, and no doubt in her years at Foster's she has seen it all, when it comes to adoptions and abandonment.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 08-30-2006 06:00 AM

Now, arn't we all making up thoughts on how Wilt's past could've gone, who wants to vote on who you think is right? :D

scary_dream 08-30-2006 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 3406)
Now, arn't we all making up thoughts on how Wilt's past could've gone, who wants to vote on who you think is right? :D

I don't want to vote because I've found in my 18 years of living that I'm usually wrong... I seriously can't even predict movies very well! 8D

Plus, I don't want to consider anyone correct at this moment or come to expect anything, because whenever November comes, I want it to be a total surprise. You know the feeling - it'd be like opening a Christmas present after making guesses at it all season long, and some of the guesses may have been right, so it's just not that huge of a shocker anymore.

Not that I'm saying that GWH isn't going to be huge to me (it is!), but I still want to keep myself from guessing TOO much.

antgirl1 08-31-2006 05:53 AM

Oh, I see. What if it turns out to be something we never thought of? That would rock. XD

x_dummkoff_x 08-31-2006 03:48 PM

but don't you think that we've already thought about pretty much everything?
I mean,
what else could there be?
.....
well, I could be wrong, of course.

kageri 08-31-2006 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by x_dummkoff_x (Post 3661)
but don't you think that we've already thought about pretty much everything?
I mean,
what else could there be?
.....
well, I could be wrong, of course.

And yet, there's always something you haven't thought of. And when there is, they will use it. That is the beauty of Foster's.

....Or maybe I'm just unobservant, considering I practically never see the endings coming....

DoubleLatte 09-01-2006 12:25 AM

"What if it turns out to be something we never thought of?"

What if it does, but in the most disappointing way? :3 I'm not trying to be pessimistic. You've all laid out some really good stuff and these in-depth discussions and speculations will probably make the real thing seem bleak, specially if GWH isn't packed with the emotional drama we're craving. Darn it, I wanna see some tears! I don't want any disappointments.

And on the topic of Wilt's creator...
I'd prefer it so much if she were a girl. It would definitely throw a lot of people off, don't you think?

pitbulllady 09-01-2006 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DoubleLatte (Post 3710)
"What if it turns out to be something we never thought of?"

What if it does, but in the most disappointing way? :3 I'm not trying to be pessimistic. You've all laid out some really good stuff and these in-depth discussions and speculations will probably make the real thing seem bleak, specially if GWH isn't packed with the emotional drama we're craving. Darn it, I wanna see some tears! I don't want any disappointments.

And on the topic of Wilt's creator...
I'd prefer it so much if she were a girl. It would definitely throw a lot of people off, don't you think?


I think it would throw a lot of people off-guard, too, if Wilt's creator turned out to be female, since many people DO assume that boy are the ones who are primarily going to be obsessed with sports and sports celebrities.

I, too, will be disappointed by a lack of deep emotional moments in Good Wilt Hunting, though I would definately want it to end on a positive note. I want to finally see Wilt have some sort of closure to this particular chapter in his life, since it is apparently causing him some problems even now. If that's not what's generating his emotional/mental turmoil, SOMETHING sure is!

pitbulllady

antgirl1 09-01-2006 05:46 AM

We do know that BOTH Ed's and Coco's creators were both girls...if it's the same for Wilt, then they're ALL very different girls! XD

scary_dream 09-01-2006 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleLatte (Post 3710)
"What if it turns out to be something we never thought of?"

What if it does, but in the most disappointing way? :3 I'm not trying to be pessimistic. You've all laid out some really good stuff and these in-depth discussions and speculations will probably make the real thing seem bleak, specially if GWH isn't packed with the emotional drama we're craving. Darn it, I wanna see some tears! I don't want any disappointments.

And on the topic of Wilt's creator...
I'd prefer it so much if she were a girl. It would definitely throw a lot of people off, don't you think?

Yeah, although I know that the creators will NOT let us down in the sense that it will be a great special ep, like you said I'm still hoping that it comes to meet everyone's expectations. While I know they can't make the whole thing stone serious, I at least hope that Wilt's past is treated with the respect it deserves and brings him (and all of us!) some closure.

I could see Wilt's creator being a girl... after all, (and I'm not being sexist - you know it's true), most young girls tend to be more mild-mannered than most young and somewhat rambunctious boys. Someone as gentle-hearted as Wilt could definetely have come from a young girl. While I know that IFs pretty much have their own personalities on most aspects, having someone kind imagine him and hang out with him could contribute greatly to his personality.

(Hey now, I'm not saying that it's NOT a boy, though, because I know all things have exceptions)

Kzinistzerg 09-02-2006 05:17 PM

Well, look at Mac, he's nice.

In any case I jsut hope they work everything together well.

scary_dream 09-02-2006 07:45 PM

That's my point - there are exceptions. Therefore I'm trying not to be quick to assume anything!

antgirl1 09-03-2006 08:12 PM

About the "Good Wilt Hunting" thing....when it airs I hope I live in the end. (knowing me I *could* get a heart attack from over-excitment, although I have no heart problems that I know of XD)

DoubleLatte 09-03-2006 09:49 PM

I know. I'll probably do something stupid like forget. I just hope I don't find myself cramming for a test or finishing up a report on that particular weekend!

scary_dream 09-04-2006 12:15 AM

I don't think I could forget it because I've been waiting on it for so long (plus, I don't think that Cartoon Network is going to let us forget about it.) The thing I'm worried about is that I have to work on that night and my VCR doesn't record from the TV for some reason. I'm going to demand that my boyfriend Tivo it, and if he doesn't, he will pay.

However, it's such a huge thing, even if anyone does forget it or miss it, I'm sure it will be rerun several times.

Imaginary Light 09-04-2006 09:35 AM

Yeah, I'm just scared that work is going to conflict with when GWH airs, and then I set a tape for it, but the power goes out. That kind of stuff always seems to happen. But I can't wait for it to air! I will laugh if someone from this board's theory was actually correct.


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