Goo is nowhere to be seen in "Bloo's the Boss", which will officially debut this Friday. "Make-Believe It Or Not" is confirmed to be Goo's next major role. I don't know about "Emancipation Complication" or "Good Wilt Hunting", but I wouldn't be surprised if she makes an appearance in the latter, as it's a special and might have special appearances by notable characters outside the main ones(I know Goo is extremely close to becoming a main character herself due to her many recent appearances, but still...).

I really like Goo myself--but if she shows up in "EC" and proceeds to rescue the house from Lil' Lincoln's evil plot instead of Mac and Frankie, I won't be very happy.

Goo's apperance in Good Wilt Hunting would make for an awesome visual gag,
if we see her show up at the Imaginary Friend/Creator reunion picnic literally surrounded by the hundred upon hundreds of the imaginary friends she created.

Of course, that depends on how many are left- she's like an obessive Girl Scout cookie seller on speed if you ask me.

Well, it depends if the picnic is only for the friends currently living at Foster's, which I'm guessing it is.

But, hey- the movie didn't premiere yet.


-Marty :goo:

I agree wholeheartedly. I adore Goo, but there needs to be a limit to her, and that's one of the things that really irked me at the end of "The Big Cheese". While I love Goo, there is no reason for her to ever eclipse the originals of the show. While I wouldn't mind seeing her in 4-5 episodes a season, the best number to monitor her at would probably be 2-3 (preferably 2) so she doesn't verge on annoying the people who dislike her too badly and they start losing viewers.

Why is it a problem or Goo to have "shining moments?" It seems to me, if she had more "shining moments," people would like her more.

If she saved the day instead of just being bossy, people would be probably be more open to her.

True, true. I would like her better if she wasn't so bossy all the time, but then again, take bossy out of Goo and what you have left isn't really Goo.

Oh, I'm not saying she shouldn't have shining moments, but if you just let her be a deus ex machina like she was in "The Big Cheese", you're going to end up offending your long time viewers no matter HOW MUCH they like Goo if they're fans of her. I'd like to see Goo have a shining moment now and then, but I'd also like it to happen logically and not just because "Hey, here I am! We need to do THIS!" with no rhyme or reason.

Okay cool, I understand now.

There is chemistry between her and the Foster's regulars. They just haven't shown much of it. The best example of it (in my opinion) is "Infernal Slumber."

It's not that I don't want Goo to have shining moments. It's that her recent appearances have overshadowed and even somewhat disrespected the characters that have been around since the beginning.

I'm never going to understand why Louise couldn't have been used instead of Goo at the end of "The Big Cheese"; I mean, she CREATED Cheese in the first place. And as much as I love Japanese Bloo, I REALLY don't like how Goo is powerful enough to create copies of the other characters(even if not entirely perfect) when they're missing like in "Bus the Two of Us".

About Goo being bossy: I do like that they've added a less-savory side to her personality. But I hate how she's repeatedly tormented Eduardo. I have no problem if she's being bossy to Frankie or Wilt, since these two are very mature and strong people who have put up with infinitely worse. But Eduardo is too innocent and vulnerable for such harassment to be considered funny by anyone outside of Ed-haters.

And about Goo saving the day: if there's a SEPARATE episode in which she's the protagonist and must save the house from some kind of threat, that's cool with me. In fact, "Make-Believe It Or Not" seems like it will be exactly that--which will debut the week after "Emancipation Complication". THAT is why I'll be displeased if she takes the spotlight in "EC" as well; Mac and Frankie(which are touted as the protagonists by the CN.com summary) should be the stars in that episode.

In other words, you guys say that she should compliment the original characters instead of taking over and overshadowing them. I agree whole-heartedly.

The thing with Goo is they really toss around her ability to make imaginary friends too lightly. Mac and Terrance show that it takes time to really put into effort into making an imaginary friend, and that popping them out is just plain cheap.

Half assed imaginary friends get created on pure whims and that makes me kinda feel bad knowing they got pumped out of Goo simply because she can't keep her mind (or her mouth at times) shut. I too think Goo gets way too agressive with certain characters.

She has an annoying sense of arrogance and rudeness about her, for someone who's Mac's "friend", she sure doesn't act like one. "Big Cheese" showed her like she was some kind of super professional and that Frankie and Mac's attempts were a joke.

Even if she got the code out of Cheese, she bragged like she was so masterful before and didn't seem to care the house was getting smashed which was the whole POINT of getting the code to look good for the photo shoot.

The only reason Goo could read Cheese properly is because she's as scatter brained as he is.

I agree. But let me ask you this, is that annoying thing also in another character we love? Like Bloo? Go really cares. But like Bloo she gets so preoccupied with what she's currently doing that she throws other peoples feelings out the window.

But that's Bloo's nature. Goo was introduced as someone not nearly as bossy, rude, and ego based in her episode. Bloo is by nature this whiny, selfish, and at times, incredibly stupid character that has basically become his entire gimmick.

The thing with Goo is also that unlike Bloo, things seem to go her way or work out for her more so then Bloo. Bloo's schemes or plans usually end up biting him in the ass in the long run, the show MOSTLY has a sort of karma thing going.

But nothing EVER bad happens to Goo either. Mac, Bloo, Frankie, Mr. Herriman, Wilt, Eduardo, they have all had bad things happen to them and situations turn sour. But nothing phases or harms Goo with the exception of Mac's snap attack.

Other then his screaming fit at her, Goo remains free to do and act the way she wants with zero consequences.

I agree whole-heartedly. However, if we're going to use the whole "she wasn't introduced as such" argument, Bloo also wasn't introduced as the character he would become. Granted, this is due more to a story fact than anything else (him still reeling from having been put into Foster's), but I'm just saying.

I'm expecting a partial turn-around of this in "Make Believe It or Not". Not guarenteeing it, but I am expecting one.

To be honest, Goo's current aggressive streak leaves me worried. While I still like the character, I have a hard time accepting such an about-face of her character from her first appearance. If anything, I hope they correct that.

Truer words have never been spoken.

Goo created all those hundreds of imaginary friends, but she never even took the time to get to know them. She just kinda let them get adopted by a bunch of other people. And when she created the green friend, the purple friend, and the silver friend in The Big Picture and boy of spotted tongue and Japanese-speaking Bloo in Bus the Two of Us and nobody reproached her, (I know she was trying to be helpful) it makes me sad. Imaginary friends aren't just created for one-time uses and passed on to some other kid.

Yeah, "Make Believe It or Not" may be the episode that does that, but I really don't know.

Goo's "new" aggressive and even somewhat braggy (I say braggy because when she says "leave it to the professionals" in "The Big Cheese" that kind of sounded a bit braggy and SLIGHTLY pompous to me, but that's just what I think) behavior is even bothering me a bit too. It's like she has a bipolar personality now! Personally, I still like her too, but like I said awhile back, I don't like how she was being overused because it was taking away from her character. Hopefully "MBIoN" will fix that, though. :)

You all that have mentioned the fact that Goo hasn't really taken time to get to know the friends she creates have a good point as well. I never really thought about that. In that episode she really DID just create friends then just turned around and sent them out for adoption without even getting to know them or anything. Heck, did she even name any of them because now that I think about it I don't even think she did that.

You're half-right; she didn't get to know them on any intricate level, but she did at least on some basic one (primarily because she created them), as well as the fact that she at least named some of them, as she does say the name of one friend who she's recommending to that kid at the end. Not that she got to know her creations on any deep, intricate level; but then again, at the time she herself didn't seem to understand the concept of having an imaginary friend, or even real friendship for that matter, until near the end of that episode.

That being said, I find it fitting that, of the IFs, the one she seems to have really bonded with is Coco. Her mistreatment of Eduardo, however, really confuses the hell out of me. I wish the writers had given us SOME kind of explanation for this, especially with how impressed she initially seemed with him.

Shruple, I think it was. With the gravy.

Yeah, I really don't understand the eduardo thing either.

Oh, so she DID name some of them. ;) Sorry, I couldn't exactly remember for sure whether or not she did. Guess that clears it up.

I'd also say that she really seems to have bonded with Coco the most out of the IFs at Foster's. I could actually see that coming, though, to be honest because the two of them have such similar personalities and seem to have similar interests as well. ;) I don't really like how she has mistreated Eduardo, either, honestly. I mean, what has he done to make her so hostile and bossy toward him? :-/

Again, the Eduardo thing confuses me to no end. The only real idea I have concerning it is the fact that Goo sees a bit of herself that she doesn't like (her crybaby side, which we have seen demonstrated at least once in "Go Goo Go"), and thus lashes out at Eduardo as a means to lash out against something about herself she dislikes.

Most likely, though, this is overanalyzation, and we'll never get any conformation as to why Goo dislikes Ed so badly.

Er... well, I don't think we've ever seen her be nastier to Ed than anyone else in particular...

Or maybe I'm just missing something?


(*missed the 100th post mark in this thread by one*)


-Marty :goo:

Maybe because Eduardo is an idiot? I know sometimes people can piss me off just by being idiots. :(

Well, Goo's bossiness does bug me. But at least it has had Mr. Herriman mocked, Goo saying that the old way for AATS wasn't even a way before (going "blah blah" etc.).

I'm sorry, but that's just plain cruel and sad. I already ranted about this on the General Character Discussion thread, so here comes the shorthand version:

Ed is too kind, too gentle, too sweet, and is too innocent to honestly deserve any of that bashing crap. THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON WHATSOVER FOR GOO TO TREAT HIM LIKE THAT. End of story.

Being childlike and innocent does not make someone an "idiot". :P

I'm sorry but I too have to say something here.

Eduardo is the epitome of innocent in this show. He doesn't hate, he doesn't think only for himself, he cares about everyone around him AND he's a true friend to all who need him. He does not deserve to be terrified of Goo, OR to be called an idiot by you, MasterKnight DH.

There's a huge difference between being an idiot and being innocent.

There are circumstances of course when Eduardo doesn't appear the brightest bulb in the group, but they never make him out to be stupid or treat him with any kind of malice. He still treats things, and acts, like everything is new to him at some degree. Plus the fact his fear overrides basically anything else he does is a major factor.

Goo has been mean to Eduardo. The first time she met him she complimented him sure, but then she unleashed that 'really scary' imaginary upon him which he definately didn't deserve. All the guy was doing was watching tv, next thing he knows he had nightmare fuel for a year. The second time was in Neighbour Pains; Goo was getting way too ahead of herself and being a bossy little girl and took out a lot of her frustration upon those around her. But especially at Eduardo, causing him to pretty much break down from her verbal assault on him. I'm sorry but that isn't fair either. Eduardo hardly knew what was going on himself, so how cuold he explain to her? The other instance I can think of is from Internal Slumber when Goo brings up the subjects of ghosts, and when Eduardo fearfully asked how someone would die; she brings up the point 'they might have chocked on a piece of popcorn!' and thus displayed how a person would look. Death seems to terrify Eduardo like practically everything else, but even MORE so since he was eating popcorn at the time. Luckily he didn't cry, or run off.

So does Eduardo deserve what Goo inflicts on him be it in good humor or out of malice? No. A million times no. Eduardo wouldn't hurt a fly.

Well. Maybe Terrence and an Extreme-o-saur but that's another story. Sorry about going on like this about Ed in the Goo thread but it's something that's been bothering ME since those things I listed happened to Eduardo via the hands of Goo.

Well said. And perhaps Goo treats Ed that way because he's vulnerable. I remember having a real shocker in my own life when I had a discussion with my mechanic one day and I asked him why I keep attracting these older guys who are perverted or crazy, and he said to me, "I guess cause you look vulnerable." (Which scared me, not that he intended anything by saying that.) So if Goo was made to feel "little" by being teased or whatever, she basically takes her own social problems out on Ed, who is the most vulnerable in the group, because he's so scared of everything and is also gullible. Basically, she takes advantage of him, but I don't think she necessarily means to purposefully, because even she is naive and still has a lot to learn. (Hence her extreme likeness to Bloo.)

That is just plain wrong.

Makes sense to me.
Goo's not the only one who tortures Ed. In "The Big Cheese," Ed didn't want to be filmed pantsless, but the camera person kept filming him even when he stepped out of view.

In "Go Goo Go," Goo created countless imaginary friends, she kept returning even when told not to, she forced the residents to move into the bus, she raised hell for Mac, and she almost ended his visits to Foster's. But she still had the nerve to cry. It's like she didn't even consider what trouble she caused at Foster's. And at the end, it was Mac apologizing when it should have been Goo. I find that a bit ironic.

Rewatched a few episodes. It seems to me like Goo is like that to everyone, not just Ed (I'm not arguing with anyone at all). I think that we notice (I noticed it, that's for sure) it a lot more because everyone else can take Goo's bossy orders and comments, and Eduardo is more sensitve and can't.

I'm not saying that Ed's stupid (and not saying anything against anyone who was discussing this topic earlier), but he is more sensitive. And that's not a bad thing, because it makes Eduardo... well, Eduardo!

It does bug me though.

Hey, no one's perfect. Goo's bossiness and ocasional nastiness just happen to be hers.

I think the reason why she's one of my favortite characters is because she's very interesting to read into. There are many aspects of her personality that are fun to explore and debate about.

And I am a true geek.

-Marty :goo:

I fail to see how, in any respect, Eduardo is an idiot. If you could provide some form of evidence I'd possibly hear you out, but from what I can tell, you seem to merely be making a claim based on your own personal bias towards the character without any substantial evidence provided by the episodes.

In a lot of ways, that's what I personally think it is. I doubt that she intends to actually hurt him, but I do think that she herself is so self-conscious about personality attributes that pertain to herself that she dislikes seeing in others that she tends to lash out at them. However, I still have the feeling that I tend to overanalyze everything pertaining to the world and the characters of FHFIF, which I guess goes with the territory of being a fan boy.

See, this was exactly what I was talking about in the favorite IF thread-the Eduardo bashing. Personally, I think there's a difference between being stupid and being innocent. Eduardo is definitely the latter because of his naive, child-like mind, in my opinion. He just simply can't comprehend some of the more complex issues such as love and probably other issues because he is child-like in nature, not because he is stupid. He has proven that he is basically a child IF trapped in a (supposedly) adult IF's body time and time again in the episodes.

However, getting angry at a character because of "stupidity" is just flat-out uncool and wrong, as others have stated. Besides, since this show is supposedly aimed mostly at the younger audience (with many adults included as well) then what kind of image would it be showing to children if it was screaming out "Hey, let's all take our anger out on certain characters because they're stupid! Their idiocy should be ridden of immediately!"

Now, I am not trying to be offensive here-that is not my intention. I am merely making the point that characters should never have anger taken out on them simply because they are "stupid", which, in my opinion, Eduardo isn't even that at all. I just hope that I have made it clear that I am not trying to flame or upset anyone, just to show you how I feel about this. :)

But to get back on topic, I will admit that Goo seems to be treating everyone like that lately-she got snippy with Frankie, Wilt and some others, too, all of them not really seeming to do anything wrong to deserve it, either (well, at least to my knowledge-it's been awhile since I've seen those episodes). Wonder what's up with that?

Yeah. Some of the characters on the show really ARE stupid, let's not get them mixed up, ok? :terrsmile:

XD Yeah, that's definitely true. But I have to admit that a lot of them are actually likeable because of their stupidity, which is what makes them amusing and interesting. ;)

Cheese, Bloo, Terrence (Hope that dosen't offend you, but you did say you liked how he's dumb :D )

I don't think she should boss Ed around he's as scared as it, let alone being bossed around by some girl who have his size. She can boss Frankie, Wilt, Mac, Herriman,Cheese,Coco (besides the fact that they're best friends) & anyone else around because they can take it (except Bloo who would fight back).

I dunno I disagree about Bloo being stupid. He's incredibly NAIVE, but since he's only five, can we fairly call him stupid? He needs to learn a lot of lessons and facts in general (like what reality is all about), but I don't like to think of him as stupid. Don't forget, he comes from the mind of a very complex kid and therefore I like to think of him as complex deep inside, especially as he matures. Bloo also directed an entire movie and finds ways to con people into getting what he wants, so clearly he can not be stupid....;)

I find Bloo to be, well, a wee bit stupid. Not in the sense that he can't think up some fairly elaborate schemes or show some ingenuity, which he can. But, well, he has a sort of "Daffy Duck" stupidity, because he's smart in many ways, he just isn't able to learn from his mistakes. And, to me, that's a basic element of intelligence.

Good grief.
 

I wasn't trying to piss anybody off. Why do you have to jump on a freaking bandwagon?

Okay, so maybe I worded incorrectly. But Eduardo is still definitely far from the smartest person on the Foster's block--something that's clear in various episodes. I'm not trying to insult him, I'm pointing out about his less than stellar intelligence. And I don't hate characters for that. I was simply saying that Goo could have some issue with Eduardo's low intelligence, which now that I think about it would have been fed by pride in her adoption method (described by her as "super-super smooth and super-super fast" so a weak link wouldn't make her happy).

And in case you're wondering about an example of me being bugged by idiocy, I have a job correcting papers in a math class at a college. The math involved doesn't even hit the Algebra level, and yet I see some students make mistakes going against common sense. There was also a test yesterday, and when I corrected the papers for it, a good deal of students bombed on it. At least I (mostly) avoid venting about it--despite an already bad anger problem. Then again, with bigger fish to fry, it's a minor concern anyway. Well, at least it's better than using the threat of possible arrest on a charge of just friggin' loitering.

I hope this stops. Now I'm not even sure if I should have mentioned about idiocy. Smoking and teasing both get under my skin even more (definitely smoking) and I've been for about 6-7 years under an unhealthy love obsession toward somebody who not only would tease me but I would guess is a smoker as well.

Yes, and he managed to outsmart Mac in "I Only Have Surprise for You," so I guess if you can outsmart an already smart person, that makes you pretty clever. Bloo's smartness is on a totally different level.

I agree with you to a point, but in general, I agree with what Emma said on the topic. He's quite obviously not stupid stupid, but he doesn't have any common sense or the ability to learn from his mistakes, which shows a form of stupidity.

I apologize for jumping down your throat, but I still have to disagree with you on this subject. While Eduardo is far from the smartest person, I would say that he has average intelligence; he's merely limited in showing this by his paranoia and timidity, which comes up under almost every situation.

And if Goo does have an issue with Eduardo, it wouldn't be over stupidity due to the fact that, all appearances in "Infernal Slumber", stupidity does not appear to bother Goo. Her reaction to Cheese is that "he's stupid" (referring to the fact that she apparently believed her seance had succeeded and that Cheese was a spirit) and then says she's going to try again. Stupidity from others, therefore, doesn't seem to bother her but rolls off her; as far as I remember, she didn't have any real problem with Cheese in The Big Cheese (it hurts to even name that episode........). So the issue isn't stupidity, and we don't know (and probably never will know) what it is, which really bugs me.

Exactly. Whereas Mac is smart, both bookwise and in common sense, Bloo is cunning and creative. After all, he was able to deliver his SOS message in The Sweet Stench of Success.

However, back on topic to Goo.....

You know, I've been thinking about something about all the people who've created IFs, and the general idea behind them seems to quite clearly be that the IF they create compliments something missing from them. Bloo possesses all the bad traits Mac doesn't have, Red possesses all the good traits Terrence apparently doesn't have, Herriman is a lawgiver and a stick-in-the-mud whereas Madam Foster is carefree, rowdy, and adventurous.

So how do Goo's IFs compliment her, if at all?

From what we can tell from "Go, Goo, Go!", she made all her IFs merely to avoid and counteract her loneliness due to the fact that she has no friends. My question is this: why doesn't she really have friends? Is it really because her personality would have put that many people off (which I kind of find hard to swallow, as I could imagine there could be people as immature as Goo at her age that she could've gotten along with), or does she herself not actively try to make friends? I almost get the feeling that Goo has abandonment issues, that she was possibly hurt/betrayed by a previous friend in some childish way (as children do), and, as we've seen, she herself can be a crybaby when her feelings are hurt. So I'm wondering if she basically decided not to try to make friends, yet couldn't stand being alone and thus resorted to creating IFs. I believe the fact that she even really tried to befriend Mac was due to the fact that she saw they had some kind of even ground to stand on, that being interest in/love of IFs, and that she became more comfortable around him when she saw that Bloo was Mac's friend.

I wish that this would be something they would maybe delve into, but I doubt they will and, despite my love of the character, I don't have high hopes for "Make Believe it or Not", though that may be due just to the fact that I'm naturally a cynic.

And again, I'm probably overanalyzing the situation/character. :P

You may be overanalyzing, but it's nonetheless an excellent analysis. Excellent work! :)

Perhaps, but he DOES learn, albeit very slowly. I know a few people myself who have to have a certain situation happen SEVERAL times before they finally learn why it was a problem. I'm being vague on purpose because I don't want to go in detail about it.
But anyway, I still disagree about Bloo being stupid. He's very naive which may make him SEEM that way, but even a "wee bit" I don't agree with. LOL Great minds don't always think alike. ;)