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x_dummkoff_x 09-01-2007 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 55145)
But I thought that was Jenny's number...

We all know that Wilt and always shall be NUMBER ONE!

pitbulllady



YEAH!
he even has a one on him to remind him.
all he gotta do is look in the mirror.
[I mean, it'll be backward, but oh well]

antgirl1 09-01-2007 05:48 PM

I think his number is 111-1111. :D

pitbulllady 09-05-2007 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by A mysterious girl (Post 55474)
I think his number is the same number of the whole house. :D

Changing the subject, I know this is a cartoon and that things on here are exagerated sometimes, I don't know if this was discussed before, but a question -well, many questions- came to my mind a short time ago.
How can all Wilt's organs fit on his thin body? Were are his lungs, stomach, etc.? I mean, does the food go into his feet?.. I'm sorry!, I'm sorry! That was awful! I'm terrible! I don't think that actually happens! *runs towards the wall and hits her head with it, then she runs into the kitchen and spills lemon juice on her eyes. She returns to the computer* I had to punish myself... In what was I? Oh, yes... SORRY! I'm sorry! I didn't mean to!... Well, let's continue.
And what about his ribs? Wouldn't they have to be really thin so they fit? And something REALLY important, how can his heart fit in there? At least on all of us, human beings, our heart has a similar size to our fists, and have you seen the size of Wilt's fists? I'm sure you have. But maybe, like in other living things, that does not apply to him.
Maybe Mac, Goo, Cheese and many other imaginary friends and children are more or less as "fat" as him, but they are much shorter.
So... in conclusion, how can everything fit there, on his body? Only the cartoon's "magic"? Do you think there might be another explanation?

If you notice, ALL of the characters have impossibly-exaggerated physical features, including the human characters. There's no way, for instance, that Mac's body could possibly support such a huge head, or Frankie's neck could be so long and not collapse, or Madame Foster's legs be so short and virtually triangular! Animators use those exaggerations to make characters more appealing, and easier to draw, especially in Flash. Wilt's torso, in most shots, is the same size as Frankie's; it's just that his head is so huge and his limbs so long in comparison! If you look at the screen cap from Good Wilt Hunting, where he gets pulled down into that group hug by that overly-emotional family after returning "Floofy Woogums" to them, you'll see that his body is the same size as the two adults' bodies. I tend to think of it this way: if these were real, live characters that we could actually meet(wouldn't that be nice?), their proportions would be the same as those real people, more or less, without the exaggerations. Most of them would have MUCH smaller heads, Frankie's legs would have a more feminine shape and her grandmother's would not be triangular, the humans would have fingernails(which they do not have in most scenes), Mac's eyebrows would not be in front of his bangs, etc. Wilt's proportions would be the same as you'd expect if a human could be that tall, and he'd have clearly visable muscles, tendons, etc, just like you'd see under the skin of a tall, sinewy athlete(like most pro basketball players), which means he'd have plenty of room for the same organs that we have in his chest cavity and abdominal cavity. The characters' eyes, most of them anyway-would have irises(I mean Frankie's driver's license says that her eyes are green, but you only see her pupils). Most of the characters would have visable lips, not just a slit for a mouth.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 09-05-2007 06:47 PM

You know, I've asked this question too, and I personally believe since Wilt was "built" as he was, the organs were just arranged to fit in his body, one way or another. I also believe that the shape of Wilt's skull is round like a circle, but the rest of the head, would just be muscle, tissue, fat, and/or cartilage, much like a human's ears. Those lobes of his seem to be "boneless", as they just flop around as they please, and not retain a position.

antgirl1 09-15-2007 08:04 PM

I, for some reason, would think that Wilt's favorite color would be green, and not blue, as most would probably assume. What do you think his favorite color could be? (BESIDES blue)

Sparky 09-15-2007 08:15 PM

It's not orange? :D Lol, I dunno.

Vampyre 09-16-2007 12:28 AM

Well, I don't know really, because I'm convinced that his favourite colour is blue. I certainly can't see him liking PINK, even if these days pink is considered to be a man's colour (at least round here anyways...) hmm... If it's not allowed to be blue I'll say... Turquoise, cos THAT is an awesome colour...

Alandra 09-16-2007 12:24 PM

Well its kinda hard to tell what Wilts second favorite color, we all know his first is blue as you guys have said before.. hmmmmm *thinks*



and for this..

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Originally Posted by A mysterious girl (Post 55474)
I think his number is the same number of the whole house. :D

Changing the subject, I know this is a cartoon and that things on here are exagerated sometimes, I don't know if this was discussed before, but a question -well, many questions- came to my mind a short time ago.
How can all Wilt's organs fit on his thin body? Were are his lungs, stomach, etc.? I mean, does the food go into his feet?.. I'm sorry!, I'm sorry! That was awful! I'm terrible! I don't think that actually happens! *runs towards the wall and hits her head with it, then she runs into the kitchen and spills lemon juice on her eyes. She returns to the computer* I had to punish myself... In what was I? Oh, yes... SORRY! I'm sorry! I didn't mean to!... Well, let's continue.
And what about his ribs? Wouldn't they have to be really thin so they fit? And something REALLY important, how can his heart fit in there? At least on all of us, human beings, our heart has a similar size to our fists, and have you seen the size of Wilt's fists? I'm sure you have. But maybe, like in other living things, that does not apply to him.
Maybe Mac, Goo, Cheese and many other imaginary friends and children are more or less as "fat" as him, but they are much shorter.
So... in conclusion, how can everything fit there, on his body? Only the cartoon's "magic"? Do you think there might be another explanation?

If Wilts Heart is as big as one of his fists (knowing he only has one), he has one BIG heart ^_^. Cause I think if he balls his hand up into a fist, its like 2/3rds the size of his torso. We all know Wilt has a big heart

The Huntsman 09-16-2007 05:49 PM

This question has probably been asked before, and it’s probably a subject of great debate, but why hasn’t Wilt been adopted? I’ve missed a lot of episodes and I’m not really sure if this has ever been addressed. Wilt has been seen by a lot of people, and nobody is freaked out by how he looks, so what’s the deal? With his personality, as “Good Wilt Hunting” had shown, he’s pretty much one of the best Imaginary Friends that a family could adopt.

Granted, I know the “real reason” is that he’s a main character and having him get adopted would be a serious problem for the series. However, I wish there was some sort of explanation.

Ub3rD4n 09-16-2007 11:41 PM

He'd most likely try to convince them to adopt some other, "more deserving" friend out. Remember World Wide Wabbit.

The Huntsman 09-17-2007 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ub3rD4n (Post 56739)
He'd most likely try to convince them to adopt some other, "more deserving" friend out. Remember World Wide Wabbit.

Ah, yeah, that’s a valid point. Still, in the end, you would think somebody would convince him to allow them to adopt him. When the show ends, and it has its series finale, I hope that all the characters get adopted, or get back with their original creators. Wilt’s too nice to not get adopted, though maybe he could be “hired” by Foster’s, or something. It worked for Mr. Herriman, though I understand that he had a special status because he was Madame Foster’s Imaginary Friend.

pitbulllady 09-17-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Huntsman (Post 56711)
This question has probably been asked before, and it?s probably a subject of great debate, but why hasn?t Wilt been adopted? I?ve missed a lot of episodes and I?m not really sure if this has ever been addressed. Wilt has been seen by a lot of people, and nobody is freaked out by how he looks, so what?s the deal? With his personality, as ?Good Wilt Hunting? had shown, he?s pretty much one of the best Imaginary Friends that a family could adopt.

Granted, I know the ?real reason? is that he?s a main character and having him get adopted would be a serious problem for the series. However, I wish there was some sort of explanation.

While we've never seen anyone "freak out" by Wilt's appearance, it is apparently a rather frequent occurance, since he himself makes a mention of this in the pilot, when he thought that's why Mac and Bloo were just staring at him. I teach school, and I know how a lot of kids, especially younger kids, are about something that's "broken" or imperfect. They don't want anything to do with it. To them, and probably to some of the parents, too-Wilt is just messed up because he's had an arm amputated and he's got that blind "wonky" eye. Even a lot of adults are uncomfortable around a handicapped person, even if they try to hide it. I guess, too, that Wilt's tendency to put others ahead of himself, and even to put himself down at times, has had something to do with his not being adopted. Perhaps as well, HE has some intuition as to when that perfect kid, that kid who really needs him, not just as a friend, but in that same role of mentor/helper/surrogate father/big brother figure that Jordan created him for in the first place, comes along. Me, personally, I'd rather see Wilt go to live with his creator, or find another way in which he can live at Foster's(he's pretty darn indispensible there, after all) and serve as a friend and role model to many kids. Wilt would be perfect working with an organization like Big Brothers; he could coach after-school basketball programs for at-risk kids, and that way, he wouldn't limit his need to help others to just one kid or one family.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 09-24-2007 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Huntsman (Post 56711)
This question has probably been asked before, and it?s probably a subject of great debate, but why hasn?t Wilt been adopted? I?ve missed a lot of episodes and I?m not really sure if this has ever been addressed. Wilt has been seen by a lot of people, and nobody is freaked out by how he looks, so what?s the deal? With his personality, as ?Good Wilt Hunting? had shown, he?s pretty much one of the best Imaginary Friends that a family could adopt.

Granted, I know the ?real reason? is that he?s a main character and having him get adopted would be a serious problem for the series. However, I wish there was some sort of explanation.

I'm not sure if this counts, but he was once adopted by Mac's principle, but too bad he was brought back in the end. He seemed so happy to be a flagpole...XD

pitbulllady 09-24-2007 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 57364)
I'm not sure if this counts, but he was once adopted by Mac's principle, but too bad he was brought back in the end. He seemed so happy to be a flagpole...XD

Wilt would act "happy" if he had to be a kennel cleaner at Michael Vick's place, but whether or not he actually IS happy is another situation. We know that he's certainly appeared happy since the beginning of the series, but that all this time he's been "bottling up" a lot of pain and anguish, until he just couldn't deal with it any longer, thus his trek to confront his former opponent in the movie. He was not actually "adopted" in "Emancipation Complication" by the Principal; he was SOLD, like a slave, by Lil' Lincoln, who planned to use the profits he made by selling the Imaginary Friends to turn Foster's into a cassino. I don't count the actions of Lil' Lincoln to be "adoptions" at all, because of that. Many of the IF's, like Eduardo, were sold to families who mistreated them, without any consent on the part of the IF. Wilt himself was being used, in every sense of the word, as an inanimate object, for a laugh, and he was not part of a family or actually helping anyone, just filling in for something that the school was apparently too cheap to buy(sounds awfully familiar).

pitbulllady

Kootiebirdo 10-06-2007 02:26 PM

For such a generous kinda guy who wishes to be adopted by a loving family, he truly deserves better than the way he was treated in that episode.:(

antgirl1 10-06-2007 07:10 PM

You know what Wilt also deserves? More screen time. Not a second of screen time in a whole episode. Do I need to explain? :(

Lynnie 10-06-2007 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 58404)
You know what Wilt also deserves? More screen time. Not a second of screen time in a whole episode. Do I need to explain? :(

Nope. I wish he got more screen time too. I haven't really seen much of him since "The Buck Swaps Here". Well, and then "Bloo Superdude" but he wasn't really "himself" in that. I miss seeing Wilts optomism and cheeriness, and being more of a parental figure to everyone else. But really all they've shown lately is his great smile, and saying a word or two. I miss you, Wilt buddy! :(

pitbulllady 10-07-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynnie (Post 58408)
Nope. I wish he got more screen time too. I haven't really seen much of him since "The Buck Swaps Here". Well, and then "Bloo Superdude" but he wasn't really "himself" in that. I miss seeing Wilts optomism and cheeriness, and being more of a parental figure to everyone else. But really all they've shown lately is his great smile, and saying a word or two. I miss you, Wilt buddy! :(

Antgirl, Vampyre and myself have been discussing this very topic on DA. Wilt has really not had a major role at all in Season Five, and in fact, he's been AWOL in many episodes, or he's only glimpses for a millisecond, in the background somewhere. It's starting to really bug me, since it seems like he's being written off the show, more or less. While I know that there are some folks who'd love to see that happen, Wilt is one of the most popular characters on Foster's. Anywhere I've seen a favorite character poll, he and Bloo are usually tied, or very close, for the top spot, and if being the subject of fan art and fan fiction is an indicator, Wilt is probably THE most popular. It would seem that in spite of the network's insistence that little kids are the "core" audience of this show, and that little kids want to see more of Bloo, Bloo, Bloo, getting rid of a character as popular as Wilt would prove detrimental in the long run. I believe, though, that before GWH ever aired, there was some thread in which I expressed concern that after that movie, Wilt would either be pushed aside as a character and more or less become one of the lesser, background characters that we just occasionally see or hear, or he'd be written off the show entirely.

He was in "Cheese A Go-Go", though he clearly wasn't himself, and wore this woe-be-gone expression the whole time(and I DON'T think it was because he struck out as a defense attourney, either) and barely spoke. He didn't have many lines in "The Buck Swaps Here", and got treated like dirt. He was in "Something Old, Something Bloo", but really didn't have a major role there, either. He has a pretty good line in "Bloo Superdude and the Potato of Power", but, as has been pointed out, you couldn't even see all of his face since he appears only via Bloo's story, and naturally Bloo is going to be the central figure there. He had a pretty decent role in "Schlock Star", but we only glimpse his legs in "Bride To Beat", and he's not in "Affair Weather Friends" at all, and then there's that token glimpse in "Ticket To Rod". Coco isn't doing much better, though Eduardo has had several moments to shine in Season Five, since I more or less consider both "Cheese A Go-Go" and "The Buck Swaps Here" to be Eduardo-centered, and he's also supposed to be the main character in the upcoming "Better Off Dead". It's like someone just thought, "Hmmmm...Wilt got his own movie, so everyone is tired of him now, so we can put him on a shelf and more or less forget about him." I guess it waits to be seen how much we see of Wilt in the Halloween episode, but since it really seems to be yet-another Bloo-centered episode, I don't have my hopes up.

I'm really, really starting to miss that smile and that familiar squeak of Converse sneakers, too. What I'm REALLY missing, though, is that old chemistry, that group dynamic, if you will, between Wilt, Eduardo, Coco, Mac, Bloo and yes, Frankie. We haven't really seen them all together as a team not once this season, have we, except for the ending of "Schlock Star"? It seems that rather than cooperating and having little adventures together, they're always splintered into smaller groups and competing against one another, like in "Schlock Star", where we only briefly saw Wilt, Ed, Coco and Bloo together before Bloo "fired" the others and decided to go solo. They only came back together right there at the end, to perform Pizza Party's song, but mostly we've only seen glimpses of one or the other, and then Mac and Bloo. Yeah, it's nice to see Mac and Bloo together as best friends, but let's not forget that this is "Foster's Home For Imaginary FriendS", not the "Mac and Bloo Show", or just "The Bloo Show".

Sorry, but I had to get that out, if that's OK.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 10-07-2007 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 58468)
"Hmmmm...Wilt got his own movie, so everyone is tired of him now, so we can put him on a shelf and more or less forget about him."

That makes me very sad, and wanting me to take him off that lonely, possibly dusty shelf where the other things that are there, like Wilt, seem to have been forgotten as well.

...Gosh, he might hack up a storm up there, with all that dust!

Ub3rD4n 10-07-2007 11:24 PM

I wish I could argue. I wish I could say it's not really been that bad. I WISH I could. But it HAS been that bad. Be aware that you guys aren't alone in wishing for more ensemble episodes, and more Coco and more of WILT to be seen. I keep telling myself that they're waiting 'till the end of the season to show the REALLY good episodes, and that Wilt has a big part coming soon.

Uh.....sorry bout all the caps.:D

Kootiebirdo 10-08-2007 11:50 AM

Judging from the last couple of episodes, I agree that Wilt should recieve a more substantial role again. And since this is related to him, I hope his buddy Stats will make another appearance as well.

pitbulllady 10-08-2007 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kootiebirdo (Post 58542)
Judging from the last couple of episodes, I agree that Wilt should recieve a more substantial role again. And since this is related to him, I hope his buddy Stats will make another appearance as well.

Yeah, and it would also be interesting(to put it MILDLY)to see how Wilt and Foul Larry will interact, assuming that Larry DIDN'T get adopted(I've noticed that the really big IF's do tend to be ignored by potential adopters, which is understandable given how much they probably EAT). Larry's continued presence at the house could really test Wilt's capacity for forgiveness, and Wilt's popularity among the other house members could really test Larry's propensity for being "foul", in terms of personality, anyway.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 10-08-2007 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kootiebirdo (Post 58542)
Judging from the last couple of episodes, I agree that Wilt should recieve a more substantial role again. And since this is related to him, I hope his buddy Stats will make another appearance as well.

Dude! I totally forgot about that cute little scoreboard friend! XD

Ah, but for now, we can only dream and complain for more Wilt, or better, equal character screen time which all has to do with a plot. :D

Lynnie 10-08-2007 08:17 PM

This trend the show is in, with the lack of Wilt, Ed, and Coco, has got me thinking. I'm not so sure it's because they're trying to focus less on them, although I can understand when there's a few episodes where they're not focused on as much. It could be something out of their control. For instance, I think we all know there's more to a cartoon character than drawing it, animating it, and giving it a voice. Someone needs to write what it's going to do, what it's going to say, exactly how it does things and when, and someone needs to supervise the whole thing so everything goes smoothly with the rest of the show. It's easier said than done. And although they're not credited, I'm sure the Foster's characters each have three or four people solely in charge of them. It's also possible one person is responsible for more than one character, like one animation supervisor is responsible for the animation of two or three characters, not just one. I'm not wanting to blame anyone of course, being a loyal fan and I support the whole crew, so I'm wondering if one of these people had to take a personal leave around the time the episodes were being written. And in wanting to save time and money, and not wanting to pass the job onto anyone else (who surely has enough on their plate as it is), those characters simply weren't written into the episodes as much as usual, or at all, as is Coco's case. Perhaps this person carried most of the responsibility for Coco's character, and maybe also had some responsibilities for Wilt and Ed. Thus we don't see Coco at all for a few eppies, and only small cameos of Wilt and Ed.

Just a theory. ;)

Zeitgheist 10-17-2007 11:53 AM

I must be the only one who doesn't like Wilt

I mean, I don't have anything against him, I just don't connect with him.... I suppose I'm a heartless jerk XD The only time he made me smile was when he screamed "NOOOOOOO!!" when Bloo drove him over the edge on the couch about those damn chips, and in Squeeze The Day when Wilt had somehow ruined the entire day at the beach (how!? XD damn those you'll-never-know moments)

pitbulllady 10-17-2007 12:46 PM

People who connect with Bloo tend to either dislike Wilt, or just prefer him as background. Wilt and Bloo are polar opposites, and it's hard to relate to one and still like the other. Me, I barely can tolerate Bloo, and that's only because he does have some funny lines. If I actually had to spend, like 10 minutes with him, I'd probably wind up hurting him, which is ironic, since I myself tend to be insensitive at times, though nowhere near the extreme that Bloo is, and I'm not much like Wilt at all, personality-wise. Wilt represents maturity and responsibility, though, things which I, as an adult, respect, and things which many people find reason to rebel against. Bloo is totally opposed to those things, so I cannot relate to him. Still, I don't like it when Bloo is in any danger, or gets hurt, or is threatened in some fashion. I don't get any pleasure from seeing him suffer, unless he totally brought it on himself. I felt sorry for him in "Blooooooooo!" when he had that rotten cold, and when he got mad and gave Chuck away in "Bloo's the Boss", then realized he'd gotten rid of something he really cared about. I felt bad for him in "Sweet Stench of Success", even though he DID bring that on himself! I would have to absolutely hate a character to actually want to see that character suffer and to get pleasure from their pain, and there's no one on this show that I despise that much, not even a certain IF from you know...that place up there...with the bacon. Bendy MIGHT be an exception, though, but I guess he's probably got a legitimate reason for acting like he does, and he did seem genuinely distressed at being separated from his kid, so I really can't comprehend someone enjoying seeing one of the characters put in a really unpleasant situation. To each their own I guess...

pitbulllady

Ub3rD4n 10-17-2007 02:15 PM

Well, I love both Bloo AND Wilt! In fact, it was difficult to decide which was my favourite. Bloo has the crazy, good-times manic edge to him which I so love, and Wilt has the comedically-good-natured thing down pat, which I felt was awesome and proves you don't need to either a) be a jerk or b) get hassled to be funny. In the end, Wilt won because Bloo is a jerk, and even I have a hard time tolerating him some times. I suppose you could put it down to the fact that Bloo is very close to being me, I'm self-centred (not the same as selfish) and a bit crazy at times, but Wilt is more of a character I wish I could be more like: confident, athletic, charismatic, TALL and very, very giving.

So, although PitbullLady was right, I like to prove exceptions to things.

Zeitgheist 10-17-2007 02:59 PM

I think you both have excellent points

It's the cliché, but, yes, Bloo is closer to my personality. But most of that is because he's a gamer like me, and I take some enjoyment in that (like seeing him play that game during all of Emancification Complication). Bloo has never inspired me in any ways, it just NICE to see a character who's so insensitive and doesn't have a care in the world like him. That's why I love cartoons <3

Wilt is funny because his good nature is so often being joked around with, but it still gives me unpleasant shivers down my spine everytime he apologizes. I'm one of those who're too proud to apologize or simply can not feel guilt (my shrink says it's because I have asperger, but, I like to think that I'm broken :bloogrin:)

But neither of these characters are my favorite. That place belongs to Mac. Bloo has never annoyed me, and probably never will, it's just that he's too close to me that I get bored. Mac has the qualities that I want. Intelligent, calm, easily paranoid and manipulated by others (it's a good quality!) :cheesegrin:

antgirl1 10-17-2007 03:57 PM

It's good to find someone who doesn't like Wilt, but can still tolerate him to some extent. I have seen others on TV.com and DA, where people not only dislike Wilt, but want to actually...destroy him, and worst is, its really hard to find out why, other than he is "too nice", or some other stupid reason. People like that can have their opinions, but they shouldn't just randomly barge into the Wilt thread and bash him for no reason, saying how much he sucks like heck and say how much cooler another character is. That just really hurts the Wilt fans' feelings and angers them for such things.

But, the basher likes the attention anyway. ::)

pitbulllady 10-17-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 59678)
I think you both have excellent points

It's the cliché, but, yes, Bloo is closer to my personality. But most of that is because he's a gamer like me, and I take some enjoyment in that (like seeing him play that game during all of Emancification Complication). Bloo has never inspired me in any ways, it just NICE to see a character who's so insensitive and doesn't have a care in the world like him. That's why I love cartoons <3

Wilt is funny because his good nature is so often being joked around with, but it still gives me unpleasant shivers down my spine everytime he apologizes. I'm one of those who're too proud to apologize or simply can not feel guilt (my shrink says it's because I have asperger, but, I like to think that I'm broken :bloogrin:)

But neither of these characters are my favorite. That place belongs to Mac. Bloo has never annoyed me, and probably never will, it's just that he's too close to me that I get bored. Mac has the qualities that I want. Intelligent, calm, easily paranoid and manipulated by others (it's a good quality!) :cheesegrin:

Bloo is more like a very young child. Little kids believe that the universe revolves around THEM, and everyone in it exists to serve THEIR needs and wants. They do what they feel like doing, and often don't feel remorse when they do something wrong. Most child psychologists do not believe that children really develope the capacity to feel guilt, or to empathize with others, until they are five or six years old. Bloo DOES express guilt from time to time, but it's more like a nuisance that pops up every now and then, like a wart or something. In that respect, I don't see Bloo as "broken" at all, but as an example of pure ID. Wilt and Mac both are more similar to each other than either is to Bloo, with the difference being that Mac is still a kid and does, from time to time, "regress" back to more simpler and guilt-free childhood pleasures, like sabataging Duchess' tea party. Wilt, on the other hand, is the one who IS most definately "broken"-not so much physically, as he believes, but emotionally. Instead of blythly ignoring guilt, he's let it be his universe for the past 30 years, and it's nearly destroyed him. That was the whole point of having him undergo increasing "breakdowns" and erratic behavior in the past season, leading up to Good Wilt Hunting-to show his increasingly damaged status as all that guilt began to force its way to the surface, like magma rising in the neck of a long-dormant volcano, threatening to eventually explode, taking the entire mountain with it. I am sometimes bothered a bit when the show's writers seem to overuse Wilt's trademark "Sorry", but I understand now why he does that; it's an expression of all the guilt and remorse and pain he's kept hidden inside for all those years. All that time, knowing who his creator was, and being ashamed to even tell anyone, not even those closest to him. I would sorta hope that they'd tone down the chronic, gratuitous use of the "sorry's" now that Wilt seems to have finally started resolving his issues, and show some other sides to him, like that mischievous, somewhat-twisted humorous side as seen in "Nightmare On Wilson Way", or that fanatic "sports dad" side seen in the end credits of the movie, or that take-charge side displayed in "Eddie Monster", what "The Dog Whisperer" Cesar Milan would refer to as "calm, assertive discipline", when Wilt most non-apologetically back-handed Bloo upside the head! Wilt proved in GWH that he's very articulate and CAN speak in whole paragraphs without apologizing, and it's like from time to time we get those little glimpses of "the real Wilt", as he was before that ill-fated game 30 years ago, as opposed to the "broken" emotional shell he's become.

pitbulllady

Zeitgheist 10-17-2007 05:43 PM

antgirl1: I don't hate anyone on foster's I just don't connect with wilt :P I can't see him and me getting along too well. XD but yeah, bashers can go to... well, Heaven, because Hell seems pretty cool and they do not serve that D; they deserve eternal bliss of boredom

pitbulllady: see, that's one thing I dislike about the fan "view" on wilt :[ that he's "emo" and "broken on the inside"... but perhaps I've just gotten sick of pics and fanfics of Wilt crying like a little girl. My own humble opinion of Wilt is that while he may have had some regret, he didn't let it get to him THAT much.. I mean, 30 years is a long time. If he was that depressed he'd be dead now D; I see him as a compulsive soul rather than a depressed one

Most of my opinion comes from the make believe day when he decided to join the bad guys because he felt it was his duty XD it shows that he most likely has a compulsive behaviour rather than trying to mend something greater

pitbulllady 10-18-2007 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 59709)
antgirl1: I don't hate anyone on foster's I just don't connect with wilt :P I can't see him and me getting along too well. XD but yeah, bashers can go to... well, Heaven, because Hell seems pretty cool and they do not serve that D; they deserve eternal bliss of boredom

pitbulllady: see, that's one thing I dislike about the fan "view" on wilt :[ that he's "emo" and "broken on the inside"... but perhaps I've just gotten sick of pics and fanfics of Wilt crying like a little girl. My own humble opinion of Wilt is that while he may have had some regret, he didn't let it get to him THAT much.. I mean, 30 years is a long time. If he was that depressed he'd be dead now D; I see him as a compulsive soul rather than a depressed one

Most of my opinion comes from the make believe day when he decided to join the bad guys because he felt it was his duty XD it shows that he most likely has a compulsive behaviour rather than trying to mend something greater

I don't care for the "emo-crybaby, self-mutilating" Wilt as is so often depicted in fanfics myself, but just because a person, ESPECIALLY an adult male, does not wear his heart on his proverbial sleeve does not mean that he's totally happy, either. Men from the culture from which Wilt came typically do not show sadness, and tend to bottle up such emotions, or "man up", as they say. Crying or showing other outward signs of grief, guilt, or sadness are generally thought of as signs of weakness in a man, although they're perfectly acceptable for a woman. Wilt' feelings of guilt and remorse were very obvious by the time the movie came around because he simply couldn't deal with those bottled-up feelings any longer. That IF-creator reunion picnic was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. It wasn't as if Wilt just suddenly, out of the blue, remembered the outcome of that game and how disappointed Jordan had been. He'd been carrying that around, deep inside, for 30 years, and there's no way that anyone can harbor feelings like that, for that long, without it affecting their behavior in SOME way. Instead of becoming a morose, sullen, sobbing wreck all the time, though, Wilt displays those negative feelings by tending to blame himself, not just for that game, but for just about everything that goes wrong for anyone. His poor self-esteem is evident when he tells Mac that there are plenty of other Friends who deserve to be adopted much more than he does, and even when he tells Jordan, "I'm not that great". Wilt doesn't see himself as so many others see him, and it goes beyond merely being humble. Wilt puts up a good front to keep others from knowing what's going on inside that psyche of his, lest his mood affect theirs in some negative way. So much of his behavior is due to him not wanting to hurt anyone else, or disappoint anyone else, including a lot of his compulsiveness, or rather, his tendency to "waffle" in indecision as he mentally weighs the pro's and con's of doing or not doing something. This is something that people my age tend to do, actually(I catch myself doing this a LOT), which is why even though Wilt is only in his thirties, I had him pegged as someone at least a decade older, lol.

pitbulllady

Vampyre 10-18-2007 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ub3rD4n (Post 59662)
Well, I love both Bloo AND Wilt! In fact, it was difficult to decide which was my favourite. Bloo has the crazy, good-times manic edge to him which I so love, and Wilt has the comedically-good-natured thing down pat, which I felt was awesome and proves you don't need to either a) be a jerk or b) get hassled to be funny. In the end, Wilt won because Bloo is a jerk, and even I have a hard time tolerating him some times. I suppose you could put it down to the fact that Bloo is very close to being me, I'm self-centred (not the same as selfish) and a bit crazy at times, but Wilt is more of a character I wish I could be more like: confident, athletic, charismatic, TALL and very, very giving.

So, although PitbullLady was right, I like to prove exceptions to things.

I'm the same as you are; I love Wilt to absolute pieces, but I'm quite attatched to Bloo as well. I just don't show that round to much. For a month or so, when Season Two episodes were getting a bit old and there wasn't going to be any new episodes for a LONG time, there was a point I went off Wilt and started to like Bloo a lot more. I mean I still liked him, but his usual, dissapointingly small parts made me like Bloo more. Out of sight, out of mind, I suppose *shrugs* I feel bad about it sometimes, which I know is kinda stupid, but, you know, Wilt desreves all the love he can get, man...

BabyCharmander 10-21-2007 07:45 PM

Heylook a Wilt topic. %D

Wilt's my favorite character on this show. Dunno why, exactly, but looking over my favorite characters from anything it looks as though characters that can make me go "Awwww" and "HAHAHA ROTFL" and "Holycrapz that's cool" seem to be candidates for my favorites. Wilt has me saying all three of those, so I think that's part of it. %B

Um... slightly n00b-ish question, since I'm relatively new to Foster's and haven't seen all the eps yet. What Wilt-centric eps are there other than Where There's a Wilt There's a Way and Good Wilt Hunting?

Nem 10-21-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyCharmander (Post 60392)
Heylook a Wilt topic. %D

Wilt's my favorite character on this show. Dunno why, exactly, but looking over my favorite characters from anything it looks as though characters that can make me go "Awwww" and "HAHAHA ROTFL" and "Holycrapz that's cool" seem to be candidates for my favorites. Wilt has me saying all three of those, so I think that's part of it. %B

Um... slightly n00b-ish question, since I'm relatively new to Foster's and haven't seen all the eps yet. What Wilt-centric eps are there other than Where There's a Wilt There's a Way and Good Wilt Hunting?

One False Movie is one, the rest I list aren't all Wilt centric but have a lot of Wilt in them =P

Partying Is Such Sweet Soiree, not all Wilt, but has a lot of him in it, and a good episode to watch anyways XD

Room with a Feud, features a lot of Wilt, and the other characters (Ed, Bloo, Coco...), one of my favorite episodes XD

The Big Picture, again not a ton of Wilt, but he's in it, and it's also a good episode anyways =P

Neighbor Pains, has quite a bit of Wilt, and Ed's pretty funny with his "small talk."

Bus the Two of Us, lot's of Wilt, but I think you've seen that one XD

Make Believe It or Not, but I think you saw that one too XD, lampshade Wilt ftw =P

That's all I can think of off the top of my head, I'm exhausted so I probably missed some, or mentioned some that shouldn't be mentioned D:

Uhm...I believe this might just be the first time I've posted in a topic dedicated to Wilt, which is ironic since he's my favorite character too XD

Anyways yea, sorry if I messed up the list D:

Zeitgheist 10-22-2007 01:29 AM

Foster's Goes To Europe also has a lot of Wilt (being agonizingly slow XD)

Camp Keep a Mac Down I like because of the Wilt moment when Bloo just leaves him to die XD

Kootiebirdo 10-22-2007 03:49 PM

I kinda like the Wilt man myself! :D
It still bums me out though that Wilt didn't recieve ownership of that tricked out basketball room in "Room with a Feud" even though he truly deserved it the most.:(

antgirl1 10-22-2007 06:29 PM

Well, they HAD to make him want it somehow, right? If it wasn't just his style, he wouldn't want it. :D

BabyCharmander 10-22-2007 06:46 PM

Heh, he should've at least gotten the bed. XD That thing was a bunk bed. He could've asked if he could have half of it or something...

Zeitgheist 10-23-2007 12:56 AM

The look on his face when he sees the room is so priceless and Foster's EPIC XD

And how he knows a shortcut to the room cus he's lived in the house the longest is pretty neat for that episode <3


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