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Mr. Marshmallow 08-25-2007 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by montitech (Post 54476)
Prior to it, Bacon was not known for any phycotic roles, so it broke peoples expectation of bacon.

It was a bit scarry and sometimes a bit gross for some people.

And last problem was people do not want to be reminded that,
Is it true when you cannot be seen or traced one would loose inhibitions and do things that they know they should not do. this makes people face the big question of is man inherintly good or evil

Actors break their "molded images" all the time. Jim Carrey is a comedy man but he's done creepy and serious roles as well. Or look at the likes of Loyd Bridges, he did serious roles before and when he came into Hot Shots, he was hilarious. Same with guys like Leslie Nielson and Stacey Keach (Titus dad).

The movie was intended to be freaky and besides, it comes from the guy who directed Total Recall and Robocop, gore is to be expected. As regards to your final statement, it is true man hates to admit it can become evil but the truth keyword of that statement is CAN be evil. Mankind wasn't evil, A MAN was evil here.

The reason Bacon's character Sebastian Caine did those horrible things was not because man is inherently evil or because "everyone would do stuff like that if they were invisible", it's because of several other factors that were clearly stated in the movie:

1. Caine was an egotistical, arrogant, ass who did this experiment to himself to satisfy his own ego.

2. The movie states quite a few times the invisible serum causes aggression and starts affecting the subjects minds. They had a gorilla they tested it on who was just as berzerk and crazed as Caine.

3. The fact the formula caused aggression and rage mixed with a personality like Caine's is what caused him to turn and kill the others. They state it's possible the power itself corrupted him, but even if it did, his bizarre reaction to the "cure formula" and the way his body started to reappear again after being electrocuted showed the formula DEFINITELY effected Caine's genetics.

AerostarMonk 08-25-2007 07:58 PM

You know I actually wanted Sebastian to succeed in the end. After my favorite character, played by Joey Slotnick, was killed off, I was hoping he would finish them all. Then just turn him loose on the world.

No sequels with Christian Slater here.

Mr. Marshmallow 08-25-2007 11:14 PM

You know it's kind of funny, my dad and I watched the movie and we remember vividly the "rape scene" that is edited out (or partially) when Sebastian rapes his next door apartment neighbor girl. They don't actually show it but if you look at the deleted scenes they show it and explain that is what happened.

They removed it because they felt Sebastian went too evil too quickly for test audiences. Anyway, my dad actually told me a sequel idea he would like to see and after hearing about the stupid Slater sequel, I have to say his idea doesn't sound so bad anymore.

He thought it would be cool if that assaulted woman became pregnant and gave birth to Sebastian's child mixed with the invisibility formula being half visible and half not or maybe a mix of the power or something. I know it sounds weird but like I said, it can't really turn out any worse then what they did with the Slater sequel now can it?

Btw, last movie i saw was The Hunchback of Notre Dame. Say what you will of Disney, but back then they were GODS at creating animated movies. I had forgotten about incredibly beautiful and dark Hunchback was. Frollo was by far the coldest villain ever, and the music was absolutely perfect.

Granted it had some comic cartoonery, goofyness, and cutesy Disney characters. But if you actually listen to the lyrics of the songs and see them as they are, songs they elevate the story and aren't used for cheapie sing-a-longs, you'll realize there's a whole world of beauty in this movie.

Medikor 08-26-2007 06:13 AM

I was flipping through the channels last night and came across the last half of something called "Mad Max 2". I couldn't make heads or tails of what I was supposed to be watching! 8D

montitech 08-26-2007 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Medikor (Post 54550)
I was flipping through the channels last night and came across the last half of something called "Mad Max 2". I couldn't make heads or tails of what I was supposed to be watching! 8D


Thats pecular, since that movie is normally titled as "The Road Warrior",
In fact I used to know many people that never knew that movie was the second installment of the Mad Max series.

to help clear up the confussion, it is a post appocolyps world where Gas is the most valuable. The majority (99%) of the movie is a flashback as told by an elder of the villiage. This narator is the Wildchild boy that looks like a mute girl. (the kid with the boomerang) the last 30 min of the movie is a great chase sceen, where the bad dudes just would not die, and Max was praying his shotgun shells were not duds.

Mad Max the first movie actually happens before the Nukes, in a world a lot like our own, The first max movie is where he gets the cool car. in his job as a highway cop. IT was a good movie, but it was close to a B movie with the special effects.

Mad Max 3 was Beyond the Thunderdome, and had Tinna Turner in it.

I enjoyed each of these films, but the are action and not everyones cup of tea.

Monty :-/

Medikor 08-26-2007 04:50 PM

That cleared some things up. Thanks Montitech! I probably wouldn't watch that movie under normal circumstances but I was under the weather in the early hours of the morning with nothing to watch. The big chase scene at the end was rather impressive, though. :D

GrimTheLost 08-26-2007 05:15 PM

I am watching "Summer of Sam". John Leguisamo and Adrien Brody are awesome.

Partymember 08-26-2007 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by montitech (Post 54552)
Thats pecular, since that movie is normally titled as "The Road Warrior",
In fact I used to know many people that never knew that movie was the second installment of the Mad Max series.

to help clear up the confussion, it is a post appocolyps world where Gas is the most valuable. The majority (99%) of the movie is a flashback as told by an elder of the villiage. This narator is the Wildchild boy that looks like a mute girl. (the kid with the boomerang) the last 30 min of the movie is a great chase sceen, where the bad dudes just would not die, and Max was praying his shotgun shells were not duds.

Mad Max the first movie actually happens before the Nukes, in a world a lot like our own, The first max movie is where he gets the cool car. in his job as a highway cop. IT was a good movie, but it was close to a B movie with the special effects.

Mad Max 3 was Beyond the Thunderdome, and had Tinna Turner in it.

I enjoyed each of these films, but the are action and not everyones cup of tea.

Monty :-/

Mad Max rules!

jekylljuice 08-28-2007 01:56 AM

The Blues Brothers

Best damned musical ever. I can watch this film repeatedly and laugh myself sick every time. 8D And the songs and dance routines are really something.

I also went to see the Bourne Ultimatum on the big screen a couple of days ago, and while I've generally had a hard time getting into the post-Bourne Identity flicks in the series (probably not helped by the rather erratic camera work), I still found it to be a perfectly enjoyable and pulse-racing thriller. Those final moments were superb.

taranchula 08-28-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jekylljuice (Post 54684)
The Blues Brothers

Best damned musical ever. I can watch this film repeatedly and laugh myself sick every time. 8D And the songs and dance routines are really something.

Oh yeah, and not to mention that The Blues Brothers has some of the best car chase scenes in the history of motion pictures. The chase through the Mall and the big chase at the end of the film, are the stuff of legends.

Invader Bloo 08-28-2007 02:21 PM

Spider-Man

AerostarMonk 08-28-2007 02:28 PM

Kalifornia

That Brad Pitt doesn't get enough credit. I mean he is one incredible actor. Had it not been for the fact that he got top billing I probably wouldn't have recognized him. This is on incredible and underrated movie that also features brilliant turns by Michelle Forbes, David Duchovny and Juliette Lewis. Another one of the hidden gems of the '90s.

LaBloo 08-28-2007 02:44 PM

The Wedding Singer

I Like Drew And Adam Work Together In This movie. I Always Wanted to watch The Wedding Singer, Since I already watched 50 First Dates. The Movie Was Funny! It Was one of my favorite movies!

montitech 08-28-2007 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AerostarMonk (Post 54738)
Kalifornia

That Brad Pitt doesn't get enough credit. I mean he is one incredible actor. Had it not been for the fact that he got top billing I probably wouldn't have recognized him. This is on incredible and underrated movie that also features brilliant turns by Michelle Forbes, David Duchovny and Juliette Lewis. Another one of the hidden gems of the '90s.


this was a good movie, although I keep it on my guilty pleasure list.

Monty :-/

scary_dream 08-29-2007 07:54 AM

Last night I watched a documentary that bashed Wal*Mart.... it was great :D

montitech 08-29-2007 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jekylljuice (Post 54684)
The Blues Brothers

Best damned musical ever. I can watch this film repeatedly and laugh myself sick every time. 8D And the songs and dance routines are really something.


Sorry to be contrary but
The Best Damned Misical ever is

THE Music Man

the older BW version. it was a fantastic movie, and the BEST musical EVER.....
If you have not seen this it is a MUST,,,

I also enjoy watching the Blues brothers, but the second one just did not keep up with expectations

Monty :-/

Imaginary Light 08-29-2007 06:04 PM

I finally saw The Simpsons Movie last night! I can't even express in words how pleased I was with it. I loved it! I'm sitting there laughing out loud the whole time.

Spoiler Below
I liked the little jab made at the audience in the beginning, with Homer saying why would people pay to see something in a movie theatre when they can just watch it on TV. Oh, and I like the "Fox advertising" they did on the bottom of the screen8D It's little things like that that make me laugh.

Mr. Marshmallow 08-30-2007 09:25 PM

Hot Fuzz

I finally got around to seeing this movie and boy it was so worth it. While not as "universally" applicable as "Shaun of the dead", this movie not only kept me laughing but kept me guessing. It was surprisingly much smarter, fresher, and more creative then I expected and GOREY too. I sure didn't expect that.

Great movie, very funny and very smart. I recommend paying close attention though, the only problem with the movie is you gotta keep close watch on it because there's a lot of smart stuff coming at you fast.

Tagteam 08-31-2007 06:52 AM

i don't remember the last full movie i watched but last night i started watching godzilla

Medikor 08-31-2007 08:27 AM

Which one? Not like it matters though, they're all fun movies to watch. :D

Mr. Marshmallow 08-31-2007 04:36 PM

Death Sentence

Dark, violent and amazingly emotional. I was expecting a flimsy, paper thin movie but I got a very well done and very VIOLENT movie. Bacon was great here and the music was incredible, an excellent movie, don't fall for the weak commercials on TV. Look at a trailer of it on the web, it's a VERY good movie.

GrimTheLost 09-02-2007 11:48 PM

Superbad. One of the years greatest comedies. I highly recommend it. Jonah Hill and Michael Cera are hilarious.

Imaginary Light 09-03-2007 07:29 AM

Blades of Glory on DVD.

It was, well...interesting. I thought it was pretty funny, but sometimes cheesy. Which isn't really bad all the time, I guess.

fosters home fan 09-03-2007 08:19 AM

eh, haven't watched much TV recently. The Incredibles, I guess. :)

Invader Bloo 09-03-2007 11:06 AM

Watched a bunch of movies over the weekend:
Alien
It was good, but got boring at parts. Aliens was a much better movie.
The Terminator
A really good movie. But like Alien the sequel is much better.
T2-Judgement Day
Holy....What a great movie. I was blown away by this movie. The CGI's great for one of the first movies to use it. The end was sad too.
Jaws
What a classic. I watched it on TNT from a recording, so some of it was censored.
Bad Boyz-
Another great movie. Very funny & thrilling.
Bad Boyz II-
Like Aliens & T2 it's better than the second. Can't wait for BBIII, if there's one.

Mr. Marshmallow 09-03-2007 04:21 PM

Halloween (2007)

As they say in basbeall, it's 3 strikes and your out. I usually give directors/actors 3 chances to not suck in movies before I give up on them, and at this point I've given up on Zombie's movies. While this is the best film he has made so far, that sadly really isn't saying much.

This movie loaded with the same unnecessary, repetitive swearing, overboard gore, and feels more like a rip off of the original "Friday the 13th" with a more polished look and different killer. The movie have some good points, but mostly it's still just too "Zombie styled". No major improvements really exist.

It had a few good points but in the end, it just feels like all Rob Zombie did was take the original Halloween film, run it through a "Rob Zombie" grinder and gave a more detailed origins to Michael Myers, that's about it.

xxxClaire 09-04-2007 11:57 AM

Jaws 2 on DVD

It was the first time I had seen it. I enjoyed it. :)

Invader Bloo 09-04-2007 05:13 PM

There's Jaws sequels? But my therapist told me there's no Jaws sequels or Alien sequels beyond Aliens!



:P

Cassini90125 09-04-2007 05:17 PM

Your therapist is trying to protect you; the Jaws sequels were horrible. :P

Partymember 09-04-2007 05:37 PM

Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

between this and "Tommy" i've had just about enough of Tina Turner :-X she is a FREAKY looking chick!

jekylljuice 09-05-2007 10:04 AM

Who Killed the Electric Car?

The sad story of how the pioneering EV1 David came to be pulverized by the Goliath of cut-throat business and consumerism. Once upon a time in the mid-nineties, this plucky young vehicle had been slated to hold the future of transportation - this intriguing documentary-film takes a look at the various suspects who were most determined to see it fail. Obviously those oil companies are a given.

frankie_fan 09-05-2007 07:05 PM

South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut

It's easy, m'kay! A very funny film, I really enjoyed it. :frankiesmile:

Zeitgheist 09-06-2007 12:55 AM

TECHNICALLY the last movie I watched was "Meet The Robinsons", HOWEVER, I've watch that movie almost everyday since the first time I saw it, and that was around the US premiere... I just OBSESS over this movie! I think it's the greatest thing Disney has made since The Emperor's New Groove (my favorite Disney movie)

But as in the last movie I saw that I only watched one time was Shrek 3 :P Did not like it. The second Shrek movie was actually better than the first, but in the third it just crapped on itself. The animation was worse and so were the dialogues, the jokes and the story itself...

Medikor 09-06-2007 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 55523)
But as in the last movie I saw that I only watched one time was Shrek 3 :P Did not like it. The second Shrek movie was actually better than the first, but in the third it just crapped on itself. The animation was worse and so were the dialogues, the jokes and the story itself...

Really? I've been hearing the critics rip it apart but I figured it would still deliver. The trailers made it look like it would be really good. Sounds like Shreck is starting to fumble after all its success. :(

Zeitgheist 09-06-2007 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Medikor (Post 55532)
Really? I've been hearing the critics rip it apart but I figured it would still deliver. The trailers made it look like it would be really good. Sounds like Shreck is starting to fumble after all its success. :(

Yeah I was surprised. After seeing how well done and entertaining Shrek 2 turned out to be (in my opinion better than the first), I was dissapointed. Hopefully this will be the LAST Shrek movie... The second one should've ended it. I hate it when good things turn bad. I guess Shrek suffers from a bit of commercialism

jekylljuice 09-06-2007 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 55534)
Yeah I was surprised. After seeing how well done and entertaining Shrek 2 turned out to be (in my opinion better than the first), I was dissapointed. Hopefully this will be the LAST Shrek movie... The second one should've ended it. I hate it when good things turn bad. I guess Shrek suffers from a bit of commercialism

Yep, I have to agree with you there Zeitgheist. I was actually among the few who didn't quite "get" the world's infatuation with the initial Shrek flick - sure, it passed the time neatly enough, but why so many critics and filmgoers alike were screaming "GREATEST ANIMATED MOVIE EVER!" was a little beyond me. My expectations for Shrek 2 hadn't been very high, but I found it surprisingly entertaining (adding Puss in Boots to the equation certainly gave a lot more balance to the Shrek-Donkey banter which had frankly started to pall for me half an hour into the original film). Shrek the Third, however, I just found unbelievably bad - the story felt curiously short and never got going, the prospect of those little baby ogres (perhaps predictably) amounted to little more than an excuse for a succession of seriously unappealling bodily function gags, and Justin Timberlake's character added pretty much zilch in the way of humour or likeability. And, let's face it, the film's major villian - Prince Charming, this time around - was so danged inept and pathetic that you just felt sorry for the poor sucker. He never stood a chance. :(

Oh, and by the way, Shrek 4 has been pencilled for 2010.

Mr. Marshmallow 09-06-2007 01:43 PM

Batman Forever

Despite Joel Schumacher single handedly destroyed Batman's cinematic career with Batman and Robin, this movie really isn't that bad, in fact it's pretty damn good. Robin for once has a little bad ass to him and doesn't seem whiny or weak.

Riddler and Two-Face also may have departed from a few of their comic book born traditions and personality hang ups, but I felt they had an incredible on screen chemistry and their actors really made the villains a blast to watch.

kageri 09-06-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jekylljuice (Post 55535)
Oh, and by the way, Shrek 4 has been pencilled for 2010.

NO

Why don't they get it ughguuhguughuguhgh. Sure the Shrek movies make money, but I doubt as many people will see more if they keep sucking like 3 did. They're just desperately trying to keep it in the public eye until the cash cow runs dry. In a couple years we'll see Shrek: The Musical.

Also, does anyone else find the photorealistic animation kind of disturbing? I don't mind my cartoon characters looking like cartoon characters, seriously. It's weird because even though the characters are one step away from being live-action, they don't look as "alive" as Pixar characters.

Also I started hurting inside the moment I saw a commercial noting that J.T. would be voicing a character because I knew the character would be lame. I bet that was awkward for Cameron Diaz.

(Actually, I already knew there'd be a fourth one; they've also greenlit a fifth. I just wanted to flail and gibber anew here.)

Zeitgheist 09-06-2007 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by kageri (Post 55581)
NOAlso, does anyone else find the photorealistic animation kind of disturbing? I don't mind my cartoon characters looking like cartoon characters, seriously. It's weird because even though the characters are one step away from being live-action, they don't look as "alive" as Pixar characters.

Oh yeah... that's like my biggest pet peeve with the Shrek movies. The characters are too detailed and the humans are looking to realistic! Realism can be VERY boring. Especially in animation. It makes me think of old 3D cartoons I grew up with like Max Steel (if anyone remembers that one)

I don't have anything against 3D animation (used to, but I've repented, seen the light and made a change), both The Incredibles and Meet The Robinsons were WONDERFUL. Both story and animation-wise, and they're in my top ten movie list. Jimmy Neutron is also one of my favorite Nickelodeon series, and this is because the characters have... guess what?

CHARACTER DESIGN

There's no character design in realistic looking characters (like Justin's character in Shrek 3), which makes it boring to watch. It's like watching paint dry. Seen it. Seen it... Seen it. The reason I love animation so much (especially western) is because most of the time it's unique and inspiring

Wow, rant alert :P

kageri 09-06-2007 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 55593)
Oh yeah... that's like my biggest pet peeve with the Shrek movies. The characters are too detailed and the humans are looking to realistic! Realism can be VERY boring. Especially in animation. It makes me think of old 3D cartoons I grew up with like Max Steel (if anyone remembers that one)

I don't have anything against 3D animation (used to, but I've repented, seen the light and made a change), both The Incredibles and Meet The Robinsons were WONDERFUL. Both story and animation-wise, and they're in my top ten movie list. Jimmy Neutron is also one of my favorite Nickelodeon series, and this is because the characters have... guess what?

CHARACTER DESIGN

There's no character design in realistic looking characters (like Justin's character in Shrek 3), which makes it boring to watch. It's like watching paint dry. Seen it. Seen it... Seen it. The reason I love animation so much (especially western) is because most of the time it's unique and inspiring

Wow, rant alert :P

Indeed! I don't even remember what Justin's character looked like, or even his name (wait... wait... it's uh... Prince... it's on the tip of my tongue... *checks Wikipedia* ....Arthur.), which should tell you something. There's a difference between creating animation that looks lifelike, and creating animation that looks alive, and the Shrek movies really only did the former.

"Peter Zaslav said in an interview that the Christmas special Shrek the Halls will pick up from where Shrek the Third left off.[7] The film will also be followed by another sequel, Shrek Ever After, which will be released in theatres in 2010.[8] In an interview with Antonio Banderas, a spin-off film entitled Puss in Boots: The Story of an Ogre Killer was confirmed. The spin-off will take place between Shrek the Third and Shrek Ever After.[9] With a final movie, Shrek 5 in the works."

Another tip they could take from Pixar: you don't need sequels out the wazoo.


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