I think he's actually shown more of his soft side this season than the last. I may be the only one to see that, but to me, he was 'worse' in Seasons Two and Three (definitely three). As I've said before, one episode isn't going to determine what Bloo will be like. He's not going to stop being a jerk, but we will see more of the affectionate side of him in the future, methinks. :) Maybe, I'm biased over the issue, but that's the way I see it.

I don't doubt he has a soft side, though I honestly have to say that this season has been the most confusing revelations of Bloo then any other. "Boss" shows a really good side of Bloo, "Emanicpation" showed more of typical Bloo, the Bloo we'd expect to see.

This one was just plain wrong to me and it's a taste that I find difficult to stand, let alone watch again. Was the episode unbearable to watch? No, was that scene with Bloo and the door? I sure as hell think so. Also "I only have surprise for you" was another current season episoded that showed Bloo being worse then usual.

I sure hope so, because I've said that Mac and Bloo complete each other, like two halves of a whole -- but now, it's like they're so opposite that they have nothing in common, and they're drifting apart. Fighting can be funny, and something that all relationships have, but I'm ready for some easing up on the oil-and-water Mac and Bloo and some more yin-and-yang, peas-in-a-pod, peanut-butter-and-jelly Mac and Bloo. I'm wishing intently for something akin to the end-ish of Hiccy Burp.

I think part of the reason for Bloo's actions was his state of panic at the time. This does not excuse them by any means, but Bloo basically did what any living creature would do by nature when in a life-threatening situation with little time (such as being chased by someone who wants to kill you). Let's face it: when Panic Mode sets in you don't think of others and their safety. The most you think about is not losing the 'survival of the fittest' game.

Wilt's situation was very different, but what goes on in his mind is next to impossible to understand anyway. Or he could have just gotten too into the part. Actors do tend to do that sometimes. ;D

That said, I really liked this episode, maybe even loved it. Wilt as a bad guy was a treat to watch and so was his duel with Bloo. Goo was plain adorable; as someone said, this was a very good character study for her. Goo admitted to being lonely in "Go Goo Go" and MBION backs up this claim quite a bit, at least in my opinion. On a side note, I can't believe no one has mentioned the Speed Racer and mecha (giant robots) references.

Friendship is a strange thing. I knew people who would give their lives for others and the minute something bad happens. It becomes a Fend For Yourself attitude that creeps in.

It's happened to me sometimes.

Maybe it's because I hate the "devil may care" attitude that seems to have defined modern culture, but I don't get that at all. If I were in a situation that threatens both me and the people I love most, I would do LITERALLY EVERYTHING IN MY POWER to make sure that they're safe and well. I'm far from being a real-life incarnation of Wilt, but at the same time, I like to think I'm better than neglecting the welfare of others just to 'win' one of life's many stupid and cruel social mindgames.

I still haven't seen the episode, so I probably shouldn't be talking about it for now. But I'm already convinced that Bloo leaving his best friend in the entire world behind is an all-time low for him. :(

I couldn't have said it better myself.

I almost read that as 'devil may cry.' XD Anyway, it's true some people are that way, but I think you're getting a little too worked up over the idea.

I'd like to think that way too, but it also depends on how well you react to a situation and the time you have. Like when a forest fire got started near my home while my family was away this past summer. I couldn't think of anything but getting my animals to safety and the growing fear of my house being burned down. Luckily for me the fire was too far away to even evacuate, but at least I still had time to breathe and think about what I was going to do. Had the situation happened all of a sudden and I had to do things at the top of my head...the very thought frightens me. We never know what we would do in an emergency situation until it actually happens to us.

The point is that people react differently because of who they are. Look at 9/11, people turned around and did their best to help out others in need. Some people are that way, and that is exactly where the problem is, being THAT way.

What Bloo did was completely careless and ignorant to Mac. They ran like their lives depended on it and even though we all know their lives didn't, Bloo still shut the door on him. You honestly think Mac would have done the same thing if sides were switched?

The panic thing can be taken into account, however it is REALLY hard to even take it into consideration when you consider the person's track record. Nearly every single thing Bloo has done has shown that this was more of him acting like HIM then a panic attack.

Just like he forgot about his friends for a video game in "Emancipation", just like he psychologically tortured Mac in "I Only have surprise" and put him on the spot in "Infernal Slumber" and yet again in "Bus the two of us". They all match up to the selfish attitude Bloo has about himself.

Now does this mean I hate Bloo? No. Does this mean he's the spawn of satan and has no good in him whatsoever? No. But, does a panic attack really make sense when his actions connect so easily to every other prank, insensitive, and selfish thing he's done in the past? I don't buy that.

What Bloo did here is not so amazingly different to what he has done in the past, which is exactly why I don't buy this panic attack theory. Sorry, but this is too familar and too similar to Bloo's past antics to seem panicky to me.

Read my post again. People helped AFTER the attacks happened, but I am talking about AT THE MOMENT. I wasn't excusing Bloo for his actions, but I do think he reacted the same way most of us would if our very lives were suddenly hanging in the balance, no matter the personality. I mean for god's sake, he was suddenly attacked for no apparent reason!

What happened in the rest of the episodes you mentioned, yes there was no excuse for those. That much I will give you.

And where did I say that you thought he was the spawn of satan or whatever? Where did anybody say that? You came up with that, not me or any of us.

Well let's put it this way. That's one major point against Bloo that will stick. I never want to see something like that again and I really hope the writers will cut that crap out, because sometimes I think they like to do that just to stir up oubursts from the fans. But I didn't fall in love with this show for Bloo being a jerk and COMPLETELY selfish 100% of the time, I fell in love with it for the cute and true friendship I THOUGHT Mac and Bloo had, that was the sole reason.
Well ok, that and the ever-so-charming Wilt.

I mean if it weren't for some of the other great scenes (Wilt in my opinion being the saving grace) in this episode I would have given it an F rather than a B.

Well, I gave it a "B", because of Wilt "pretending" to be the bad guy. I know he's just pretending, but later on, it's getting too serious, and he's becoming more like the bad guy, because of the pretend. Okay, okay, and the way he said at the end, it's okay, but still disturbing. At least he's still kind, from noticing Goo all lonly at the beginning, and tried to make her be part of the act more. That is very sweet of him.:D

For some strange reason, I didn't even think about the part when Bloo ditched Mac. I just thought this is just the way plot is supposed to go. After all, Bloo is Bloo.

Now that Goo came back, it's becoming almost like her own episode!:goo:

And you got to admit, the "Goo riding On Coco" part was pretty cute.

So, that's why I gave it a "B". I was going to give it a "C" because of Wilt's part as a "pretend" evil villan, but there are other sweet parts, so I gave it a "B", instead.

A-. Bloo as Arnold Swartzenager(sp?) was great. I haven't read all the posts but has anyone noticed Wilt on a Foster's website? It may just be the adoptionsite but still, that was the best parody of us fans ever! Yeah CN is really letting us down on the plots first no Frankie-Mac team-up, now no video game parody?:(
Oh yeah surprised no one else caught the "I have you now!" Wilt line, another Vader parody. Oh yeah Wilt as a transformer was cool, even though I'm not a transormer fan.:D

I really don't know why everyone is fussing over A THREE SECOND MOMENT that is supposibly a bad part. I personally thought it was funny when Bloo actually did that.

I like Bloo's abandonment of Mac. It fits his character, more than saying "save Mac!"

I gave it an A

I like the way ED saved the day, with the bestest thing in the WORLD......
i did not see that comming.

And then he got a promotion as well :bloogrin


Monty:-/

To be fair, it's easy to sit in the safety of your living room/bedroom/wherever and say "Well, Bloo should have done such-and-such". But the truth is there's no way of knowing how you'd react in a life and death situation (or one that at least seems like life and death). Sure, I like to think that I'd react heroically and selflessly, but I can't know for sure, because luckily I've never been put in that position. Therefore, I can't judge Bloo.

On a side note, I don't think I'll ever be able to call shotgun when getting in a car again without adding "Huzzah!"

I'm sorry guys, but I really need to vent -- I just have to let it out. Personally, I am annoyed with some of the things said here. I don't mean to sound rude or anything, but some of the things I've read remind me of TV.com. I'm so sick and tired of folks whining about how Bloo is doing this and that wrong. :terrence: He could have been a lot 'worse' this season than he was (I still say he was worse in the previous two seasons). He isn't going to be a jerk all the time, however, he isn't going to be a total angel, either. That's part of Blooregard Q. Kazoo.

Also, a few made a good point. I might have done the same thing, if I were in Bloo's position. Either way, Bloo wasn't able to escape, so there. 8D :P

There, my rant is over. I think I need to avoid this discussion now.

People really seem to have mixed feelings about this episode.

I, personally, liked it. I thought it was nice to see Goo being used in a...um, not-annoying way (way too tired to think of a good word right now). And I thought Bloo saying "owned" was one of the funniest things I heard all night.

Oh, and the glamour shot thingies were pretty awesome. Ed's was really cute.

Well, the reviews seem to be more positive this week, except for that one part that seems to be getting the most criticism. :P I can't wait to see the screenshots for this episode. 8D I also have to agree that Goo was used well in this one. Great job, crew. I can't wait for GWH and Season Five.

Yay finally saw it, and I'll try to do the screencaps asap now that I know how to.
I hate to say it, but I actually liked this episode in spite of Goo. :terrsmile: (As I've said countless times, I'm not trying to slight people who like Goo, I just personally don't find her that good a character. We all have different opinions.) I think I liked the ep despite Goo because while she did help defeat the bad guys and all, it was believeable this time - and before that happened, she actually suffered consequences for her wonton creation. Though I thought it was highly unfair that Goo got mad at Mac and Bloo for "only" being tickled - they were apparently tag-tickled nonstop for several minutes, and when you're not enjoying it that can be highly unpleasant. I just have to assume that's never happened to Goo. ;)

There were tons of good references in this ep, that really made it good. And ORD, I think you're overreacting. This crowd will NEVER be like the "whiners" on TV.com - just let them vent and discuss, and we'll all be the better for it, because if anyone does get out of line, the rest will cut them down like weeds. :blooevil:

Perhaps, I did go overboard. That doesn't mean I can't vent every once in a while. I'm not looking for fights. 8D But yeah, let's hope we don't take the route de TV.com :P

I never said you said it, I was using it as an over exaggeration.

Now as far as this so called "3 second" moment not being as bad as it seems, I'm sorry but that's enough time to do damage. You can hurt someone in 1 second. If it's bugging the crap out of my brain for something we see so quickly, then its something pretty bad.

Maybe I am over analzying this but the same thing has been done to last week's episode, and no doubt the other episodes posted on discussion threads on this board. Dissecting an episode on a 3 sec or 50 sec scene is typical discussion stuff.

Certain things stick with you, what Bloo did was one of those things that stuck. Quite a few people on here noticed the same issue so I know i'm not completely crazy upstairs. And despite that issue, I said before there were other things I severely disliked.

Including the overly long "Imagination" word fight between Goo and Mac in the beginning of the episode, the fact Wilt was more worried about pleasing the aliens more so then his friends, and the fact that Herriman, Madame Foster, and Frankie were gone for some reason.

The fact that 95% of this episode took place in the house and had so much going on is very confusing on how none of those 3 characters were seen or even mentioned of where they were. All of them almost never leave the house, so that still bothers me alot.

This episode wasn't bad, it was cleverly written much like "Emancipation". But I didn't find it that funny, and like I said before, some episodes are less entertaining to watch repeatively then others. I watched "Emancipation" quite a few times, still enjoyed it.

This one, can't really get that kinda feeling from it.

Who wrote this episode, anyway? It feels like someone other than the usual suspects did.

Hey ORD, you're entitled to your opinions. I happen to be one of the people who like to discuss on deeper levels (obviously), and if you don't like that sort of thing, that's fine. That is, however, why you don't get involved with that sort of discussion, right? ;)

Yeah in some ways it did....especially with the hotly debated scenes. Some of it was classic Foster's humor though, so it may have been a team effort (as most usually are) using writers with different ideas.

You know I never even thought of that. That could possibly explain alot, because no Foster's episode ever felt THIS weird before.

You may be onto something.

I too find it hard to believe there's so much anger just over a door being shut on Mac.

But hey, remember? It's a cartoon! =O

...

I'm so gonna get stoned for this.

It definitely wasn't written by Lauren Faust or Darrick Bachman, I can tell you that much. I don't remember the name, but I think it was the person's first episode.

I'm surprised nobody's brought up the "Ed Baker" gag - at one point Eduardo calles himself Ed Baker. Ed Baker is one of the FHFIF storyboarders! (Of course I have a thing for storyboarders so maybe not many people noticed that.)

edit: sorry, messed up on the writer. It was Kirk Thatcher.

One more edit: I looked him up on IMDB and it appears he's done a lot of writing for the Muppets, if its the same guy. ;)

Yeah, I forgot to mention the Ed Baker gag, but I did recognize it at the time.

I could ask, if that's the case. Chances are, it probably IS the same Kirk Thatcher that worked with the Muppets. :D

And an Emmy winner, too for "World Wide Wabbit"!

I'm suprised that a lot of people overlooked a few things while this whole "Bloo dosen't care about Mac in danger!/He was in panic!" [female dog]ing (Sorry! :() discussion was going on:

1. We get to see inside Goo's house for the first time! :goo: Sure, her parents are still neither seen nor heard, we still see their kitchen, bathroom, and Goo's bedroom, which is a nice touch! I also notice she keeps her braids on when going to bed.

2. More insight into the laws of physics in the Fostersverse! :bloogrin Go on, I know you'll tell me "It's a cartoon, of course the laws of physics can be defyed." but come on, at least it tells us somehow that things can effect IF's if imagined hard enough (Coco's sleeping bomb, the time stop thing)!

And, answering the question on why there's loads of new writers pouring in? Simple, because most of the main writers were busy on GWH, and production of it was probably weaved into all the other episodes this season.

It really seems so since the last two episodes (written by Darrick Bachman) had story credit to the following people:

Craig McCracken, Lauren Faust, Darrick Bachman, Shannon Tindle, Shane Prigmore, Andy Schuhler

Tindle and Prigmore were previously character designers and Schuhler was a storyboard artist. I wonder why Tim McKeon's name hasn't appeared on the story credit anymore. Maybe he was busy making the "Re-Animated" movie, I heard that he was writing it.

And I hope someone will upload this episode soon... I can't wait to see it! :(

Seeing Goo's house wasn't a big deal for me. Sure it was nice to get a general idea, but it's not something I lost sleep thinking about. It would have been more interesting if we saw it for more then a matter of seconds, particuarly her kitchen.

Or better yet, the outside of the house itself. Now far as the Fosters verse "physics" I don't think this will EVER show up again. The imaginary alien friends were created under the rules, weapons, and guidelines of Goo's fanasty play with Mac and Bloo.

They had all the traits, personalities, and abilities of Goo's fantasy and she created them on those traits. So it's only natural they would be affected by Mac's fantasy traits since they were created JUST for those imaginary alien friends. I doubt this would work on anyone else like say Eduardo or Herriman.

Funny thing is, Goo seems to be even MORE dangerous when she's sleeping about an idea. These imaginary friends were stronger, smarter, meaner, and more independant then any of her previous creations. They kicked her out and acted like they were the real thing.

We have never seen imaginary friends act, think, or react this way before. It's scary to think what could happen if Goo has a repeat of this incident.

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Monty :-/

Well sure, general discussion of up/downloading files could be over there, but eh. Its not like its completeky offtopic.

I have just finished uploading Make Believe in 3 parts to my filelodge account, and the links can be found in the Eps on Comp thread.

Screengrabs are uploading right now. Oh yeah and I'm going to upload an ad that aired during the MBION airing I recorded..

Anyways the airing I saw lacked the end credit sequence. Can anyone tell me what happened in it?

I didn't see it, either. I'm guessing the first airing didn't show it either, or it got interrupted like EC's premiere. The second airing showed split-screen credits (which I absolutely hate). :P

The first showing featured Tommy and Tara talking, and me hitting the mute button. :P