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Frankie_4_Prez 04-12-2008 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynnie (Post 76142)
Hmm, I dunno, she just always did have that weird structure to her, but it's hard to imagine how exactly that is.

When Duchess was first imagined, she had 3-Dness and a full body, then the creator (or family of) got so sick of her, and before finding out about Foster's, they smashed Duchess flat inside their largest atlas book and kept her in the attic. That's my theory.

Lynnie 04-12-2008 01:36 PM

LOL!! :clap: Yeah!

Wish she could have stayed there. I wonder how she got out. Perhaps when they were moving to another house or something, and the book dropped and fell open. She escaped, and the world (and Foster's) would never be the same again. >:(

Frankie_4_Prez 04-13-2008 09:42 AM

I really hope the writers could officially end my speculation about Duchess past, present, and future in this last season. Despite being very annoying, she is IMO an interesting character, with all her devious plans (House of Bloo's), trap door (Dinner is Swerved, now THERE's a secret door Bloo didn't really like!), and I have yet to watch Duchess of Wails (I hear it's a great episode.)

Ridureyu 04-15-2008 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 57849)
Duchess is obviously based on the works of artist Pablo Picasso from his "Classisist/Synthetic Cubism/Surrealist" period, from the late 1920's through WWII, so she would have probably been created, probably in Europe, sometimes within that time frame, or shortly afterwards. Her accent is definately Eastern European. I've had this theory that she and her creator were separated by the invading Nazi troops, and perhaps she witnessed quite a few horrors, which could account for her nastiness. It's a defense mechanism borne of bitterness.

pitbulllady


Of course, there's also the theory that WORLD WAR II IS DUCHESS' FAULT.

pitbulllady 04-15-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ridureyu (Post 76407)
Of course, there's also the theory that WORLD WAR II IS DUCHESS' FAULT.

According to Jackie, the first World War is WILT'S fault, so he'd probably blame Wilt for the second one, too!

pitbulllady

antgirl1 04-15-2008 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 76426)
According to Jackie, the first World War is WILT'S fault, so he'd probably blame Wilt for the second one, too!

pitbulllady

ROFL, but that'd be impossible - Wilt was created in 1976. :D

Frankie_4_Prez 04-15-2008 07:38 PM

Speaking of wars and such... Duchess vs. Scissors: that would be an EPIC battle!

Cassini90125 08-01-2008 02:27 PM

Duchess was the one not-Frankie subject I asked Craig about last Sunday. He told me that they never created her creator but he was an artistic prodigy of a sort, creating pettigreed, artistic Imaginary Friends much as Picasso or Van Gogh would create paintings, and the IF's he created were for sale to those who could afford them, much as we might purchase high-end paintings and sculptures. Duchess ended up at Foster's because of her attitude; no one was willing to put up with her, including (I assume) her creator and his parents. I didn't ask about her age but if she was created to look the way she looks now, she could possibly be much younger than we've thought. Another point to ponder is that she's a sentient being but is also for sale, which has some serious implications. Thoughts, anyone?

koosie 08-01-2008 03:20 PM

Sportsmen are sold between teams in certain team sports. You must have that over there too in Football or Basketball or something.

Don't we all sell ourselves a little bit, usually our goods, our skills or our time, in order to survive till tomorrow and maybe be a buyer of somebody else. Duchess's commodity is her whole self but that in turn is part of her creator until she is signed over to Fosters. As to her value...I'd have to say she's beyond price.

pitbulllady 08-01-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 84576)
Duchess was the one not-Frankie subject I asked Craig about last Sunday. He told me that they never created her creator but he was an artistic prodigy of a sort, creating pettigreed, artistic Imaginary Friends much as Picasso or Van Gogh would create paintings, and the IF's he created were for sale to those who could afford them, much as we might purchase high-end paintings and sculptures. Duchess ended up at Foster's because of her attitude; no one was willing to put up with her, including (I assume) her creator and his parents. I didn't ask about her age but if she was created to look the way she looks now, she could possibly be much younger than we've thought. Another point to ponder is that she's a sentient being but is also for sale, which has some serious implications. Thoughts, anyone?


I think that being a child, her creator can be forgiven, sort of, for creating Imaginary Friends to sell, and thinking no more of them than he would of a painting. Children are strange like that; they'll bestow the same affection upon a toy or something inanimate that they would on a family member while conspiring to give away a younger sibling, literally. It does open a bit of a worm can, though, to equate the Imaginary Friends(even Duchess)with things that aren't even alive, let alone sentient and sapient(which is a much-higher level than being sentient)beings. I guess that could account for Duchess's attitude, knowing that her own creator did not even acknowledge that she was an intelligent individual in her own right, and only thought of her as a way to make money. Again, it gets into the whole thing of the Imaginary Friends in the Foster's Universe being self-aware, capable of complex language, abstract thought processes, a belief in an afterlife or immortal soul and believing that THEY have one, being capable of creating and making things up themselves, stopping just short of being able to imagine another being into existence(something they share with us adult humans). I think it does come down to, at some point, that some of the Imaginary Friends themselves are going to have to stand up for themselves and their own kind, generating another chapter to the civil rights struggle.

pitbulllady

Lynnie 08-01-2008 06:18 PM

Interesting, I never would have guessed that's how Duchess came to be. Her creator (confirmed to be a boy?) sounds like he could grow up to be quite the business man, scheming or not. He obviously knew how to make a profit. Kind of reminds me of Cornelius Vanderbilt and how he would as a child offer to ferry his friends to Staten Island, but would charge them a fee to ferry them back home to the mainland. Scheming, yes, but he would leave a legacy for his children and grandchildren, and the Vanderbilts would come to be known as American Royalty (they even built castles!). Duchess' creator doesn't sound like he was trying to trick anyone, but he could easily leave a similar legacy if given time. That's some imagination he's got, and he knows how to use his head! :wizard:

I also imagine his other "creations" weren't near as nasty and heartless as Duchess. Perhaps some of them actually were good friends to their buyers. So I don't judge him by the one creation that turned out bad.

antgirl1 08-01-2008 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Lynnie (Post 84628)
I also imagine his other "creations" weren't near as nasty and heartless as Duchess. Perhaps some of them actually were good friends to their buyers. So I don't judge him by the one creation that turned out bad.

Ha, with that being said, Duchess probably has a lot of siblings around the world! XD

jekylljuice 08-02-2008 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 84576)
Duchess was the one not-Frankie subject I asked Craig about last Sunday. He told me that they never created her creator but he was an artistic prodigy of a sort, creating pettigreed, artistic Imaginary Friends much as Picasso or Van Gogh would create paintings, and the IF's he created were for sale to those who could afford them, much as we might purchase high-end paintings and sculptures. Duchess ended up at Foster's because of her attitude; no one was willing to put up with her, including (I assume) her creator and his parents. I didn't ask about her age but if she was created to look the way she looks now, she could possibly be much younger than we've thought. Another point to ponder is that she's a sentient being but is also for sale, which has some serious implications. Thoughts, anyone?

Wow, I never would have suspected that. Thank you very much for doing the appropriate research, Cass, since, as I've said previosuly, Duchess's history has always been a subject of great interest to me. I wonder if they intend to bring it up in any of the remaining episodes...if they do, then I'm guessing that it won't be too major a plot point, if Craig was happy to divulge those details there and then. It certainly accounts for why Mr. Herriman regards her as a "pedigree" imaginary friend.

I also take it then that her creator didn't intentionally design her to be so cold and antagonistic? Maybe Duchess actually resents the motivations behind her genesis, despite (outwardly at least) being very proud of her pedigree, and her hostility is in some way a reaction against this. Could it be that she really has self-esteem issues deep down inside? Maybe. It's certainly brilliant fan fiction fodder, at any rate.

Cassini90125 08-02-2008 09:01 AM

My pleasure. As far as Duchess's personality goes, I think that's just the way she is, nothing deeper than that. I don't think the writers will explore her background any further than they already have. I don't know if she'll pop up in the movie or not but considering it's length there's certainly room for her.

Ub3rD4n 08-02-2008 04:25 PM

Well, that explains a few things. Duchess was never made to be friendly, she was just made to look good. Just like Extremasaurs were just made to smash things. Pretty sad if you think of it, that she never knew the kind of affection that everyone else in the entire house has, at some point or another.

jekylljuice 08-03-2008 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassini90125 (Post 84697)
My pleasure. As far as Duchess's personality goes, I think that's just the way she is, nothing deeper than that. I don't think the writers will explore her background any further than they already have. I don't know if she'll pop up in the movie or not but considering it's length there's certainly room for her.

I hope that there'll be a few more Duchess moments (or longer) in store before the series is through. Love her or loathe her, she's always such an entertaining character.

DaBomb 05-03-2009 05:33 PM

When she turns she lloks like a very skiny stick or a pole! Cool huh?

fosters home fan 05-12-2009 02:06 PM

She's a living work of art!!! She is one of the best minor characters, like, EVER. She is awesome looking, too. >:(

jekylljuice 05-13-2009 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fosters home fan (Post 110592)
She's a living work of art!!! She is one of the best minor characters, like, EVER. She is awesome looking, too. >:(

I concur. I've always loved Duchess. I'd rate her character design as being one of the most memorable and inspired in the entire Foster's line-up, and that's certainly saying something.

Cell_Phone_guy 01-20-2010 12:48 PM

After Mac and family moved out of the apartment, I wonder if they returned Duchess to the family who adopted her in "Duchess of Wails"? >:(

carlito_cool 08-10-2010 10:26 AM

I rarely see this imaginary friend Duchess. But i kinda hate her because she's so rude and she thinks he runs foster's at the episode "Duchess of Wails"

:duchconf:

KazooBloo 11-29-2016 10:36 PM

Duchess was actually okay compared to other characters. Didn't mind her.


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