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One Radical Dude 06-08-2007 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 46568)
After seeing "Only have surprise for you", "Bye, bye nerdy", and "One false movie" I honestly have to say I don't really feel THAT much sympathy for what happened to Bloo during this episode.

Especially considering what got him into his mess was the same kind of behavior that made Mac's life miserable in those 3 episodes I just mentioned.

True, but Bloo did get booed at by the audience and have tomatoes thrown at him on the latter episode. All of his efforts (as a movie director) did absolutely not pay off at the end.

Ub3rD4n 06-08-2007 09:34 PM

Huh. After seeing Mr Marshmallow's comment and PBL's subsequent comment, I realise that Fosters caters to a wide variety of tastes. I mean, I'm with Mr Marshmallow on this one, but what really got me was that two fans of the same show can have such radically different opinions of the same episode. I guess it just goes to show that all Fosters episodes are good, but some entertain some tastes more than others.

Just a thought.

Mr. Marshmallow 06-08-2007 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by One Radical Dude (Post 46573)
True, but Bloo did get booed at by the audience and have tomatoes thrown at him on the latter episode. All of his efforts (as a movie director) did absolutely not pay off at the end.

True but he didn't seem to really care what he did to Mac or the fact he made Mac give up all of his toy possessions for that movie.

Not to mention the fact he didn't care about getting Mac's stuff back at the swap market. I know he really wanted that Cobra/Mongoose thing but honestly, if it were anyone else they'd probably try a LITTLE bit to get back Mac's stuff.

I mean, I know i would and I do know this is Bloo were talking about, hence why I didn't feel this was too bad a torture all things considering.

Ccook50 06-09-2007 06:01 AM

As where Mac is shy and pragmatic, Bloo is extroverted and overtly compulsive to the point where his own ego and selfishness get in the way as it did at the beginning. So seeing him consigned to the "buddy system" with Madame Foster was rather enriching.

x_dummkoff_x 06-09-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Marshmallow (Post 46568)
After seeing "Only have surprise for you", "Bye, bye nerdy", and "One false movie" I honestly have to say I don't really feel THAT much sympathy for what happened to Bloo during this episode.

Especially considering what got him into his mess was the same kind of behavior that made Mac's life miserable in those 3 episodes I just mentioned.



look,
I know he deserved it,
but I just felt bad for him.
I don't know why.
I just did.

Invader Bloo 06-10-2007 08:29 AM

I give this episode a A-. It was pretty funny, especally how Mac got back(Sorta) at Bloo buy riding the Vomit Comet first.:bendy:

The situations they had him in was why it was funny, IMO.

bloonuggets 06-10-2007 08:20 PM

So Flo Jerhkins and Madame Foster's babysitter are back in this episode.

And Bloo gets his upcommance.

Invader Bloo 06-11-2007 06:00 PM

I don't remember the babysitter but Flo was in it.

LaBloo 06-12-2007 08:21 AM

I didn't like the ending of the episode. But The one when Bloo had the dreams he had in the store was very funny.

antgirl1 06-13-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 46558)
but WHY was a MALE mallard leading the chicks?

Maybe the mama mallard....you know...died for some reason?

Chaos Wielder 06-14-2007 07:43 PM

Unfortunately, I only got to watch this one in bits and pieces since I had other things going on at home. :( However, I did like the little bit of it that I saw. I'll have to rewatch it when I get the chance-it looks like a good episode. :)

Ditchy McAbandonpants 06-17-2007 02:29 AM

Man, I've not posted here in days...being busy sucks. :(

Anyway, I finally got a chance to see "Say It Isn't Sew", about a month later than everyone else, and I think I'm going to have to agree with Mr. Marshmallow on this one; this episode just seemed incredibly pedestrian to me. Conceptually, it was almost as thin as "Cheese A Go-Go" - you could write the plotlines for both of those episodes on the back of one postage stamp - but the earlier episode at least compensated for that with a certain lunatic energy and an unusually high gags-per-minute rate. This one, on the other hand, seemed to just coast along on the assumption that its central premise was inherently funnier than it actually was, resulting in an episode curiously lacking in narrative drive, character development or even actual jokes, particularly in the first half; a few visual gags hit the target (the Psycho and Powerpuff references, the rollercoaster miming, Bloo playing with the preschool toys), but outside of Wilt and Jackie's banter I don't actually remember any writing that came close to the normal Foster's wit.

This episode for me also showcased the most trying aspects of both Bloo and Madame Foster. There's far more to Bloo's character than being a hyperactive spolied brat, but that's all we see of him here, and it didn't help that Keith Ferguson decided to either scream or whine 95% of his lines this time out. Madame Foster, meanwhile, demonstrated precisely why she's always been one of my least favourite characters; we're supposed to assume that she's a kindly and adorable old dear, but the show hardly ever seems to actually bother showing her as such, instead focusing far too heavily on her belligerently crazy moments, to the extent that she just seems loud, unhinged and unpleasant. Foster's has a great and varied cast of multifaceted characters, but I feel that Season Five has thus far failed to take proper advantage of that, too often contenting itself with wacky scenarios and daft setpieces, and seeming all too happy to boil personalities down to their most basic (and often unappealing) elements. :(

...yikes, didn't mean that to come off as such a downer! I do like having Foster's back, but "Say It Isn't Sew" still has to rate as one of my least favourite episodes so far, and another contributor to my feeling that this season is punching a little below its weight so far. :macwor: Still, there's another ten episodes to put things right, and the preview for "Something Old, Something Bloo" (which the rest of you will most likely have already seen!) does look quite encouraging...make us proud, guys! :frankiesmile:

Ub3rD4n 06-17-2007 05:21 PM

Yeah, I unfortunately have to agree with Ditchy's synopsis of the episode. Although I had fewer problems with the episode, I found it just as trying. But, like I said, there are some who really dig this episode, and more power to you. And Ditchy, (and others who have more in common with my tastes), you're gonna love Something Old, Something Bloo.

montitech 06-17-2007 05:27 PM

I would have to disagree with "Ditchy"

I would agree that the plot is a bit thin and can be writen on the back of a Stamp. However I found the episode very enjoyable.

Have you ever been trapped waiting for others in a store? sometimes Cabin Fever sets in, (even though it may have been 10 min) it seems like hours and months past by. THis episode brought back many nalstagic memories of being in stores when I was a child. go to the play section (if the store had one) and they had like three broken toys. If you found crayons they were always broken. I think the slow movement of the episode was appropiate because it gave the fealling of being trapped and BORED.

I give think the last few episodes were put together in a well maner, and were very enjoyable (even if they lack merrit on other sides).

Maybe these episodes are more of a "Have you experienced/observed something of similar?" instead of a "Watch the good story"

MOnty :-/

pitbulllady 06-17-2007 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by montitech (Post 47441)
I would have to disagree with "Ditchy"

I would agree that the plot is a bit thin and can be writen on the back of a Stamp. However I found the episode very enjoyable.

Have you ever been trapped waiting for others in a store? sometimes Cabin Fever sets in, (even though it may have been 10 min) it seems like hours and months past by. THis episode brought back many nalstagic memories of being in stores when I was a child. go to the play section (if the store had one) and they had like three broken toys. If you found crayons they were always broken. I think the slow movement of the episode was appropiate because it gave the fealling of being trapped and BORED.

I give think the last few episodes were put together in a well maner, and were very enjoyable (even if they lack merrit on other sides).

Maybe these episodes are more of a "Have you experienced/observed something of similar?" instead of a "Watch the good story"

MOnty :-/

Very good point, Monty! The main reason I enjoyed "Say It Isn't Sew" so much is because I've been through what Bloo went through there, so I can relate. I also enjoy seeing other movies/tv series spoofed a bit and being able to figure out what movie or tv series is being parodied or paid tribute to!

pitbulllady

Mr. Marshmallow 06-17-2007 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 47448)
Very good point, Monty! The main reason I enjoyed "Say It Isn't Sew" so much is because I've been through what Bloo went through there, so I can relate. I also enjoy seeing other movies/tv series spoofed a bit and being able to figure out what movie or tv series is being parodied or paid tribute to!

pitbulllady

I think that was the whole problem with the episode. The concept was smart, and it was something we could all relate or understand.

However, just because an idea is smart doesn't necessarily mean it's going to make for a very entertaining half hour cartoon show and stay "fresh" for 30 minutes straight.

Maybe if they had more jokes in it, or maybe had Mac able to interact with Bloo IN the store, it might have been more interesting. But otherwise, it's a nice concept sticker on a rather bland/average package.

taranchula 06-18-2007 08:50 PM

Just wrapped up watching this episode a few moments ago and I will have to put myself with the group of people who thought this episode was fantastic. Because like the others, I can so relate to almost everything that happened to Bloo within this episode. Yes this episode is dedicated to anyone who has ever been stuck in the most boring stores imaginable whilst your caregiver manages to turn "one minuet" into seemingly an eternity. And in classic Foster's fashion it's great to see it happen to someone else and not yourself.

To use that old chestnut "It's funny because it's true."

ptps 07-10-2007 05:46 PM

omg thank you sparky so so SO much for the episode. XDDD This episode is crazy and filled with crack omg ahahha XDDDDDD

Spoiler Below
I CAN'T STAND THE ROLLER COASTER IMPRESSIONSSSSSSS ROFL XD omg Mac, MAC, MAC, being all smug and "HAH!" and chkchk tgtgtgtgtg chk vrrrrrrrrr tachk AHHHHHHHHHHHH and he did it TWICE DJHHSZRTJS MAC omg Mac, Mac, he is full of uber winnnnnnn

AND WILT AND JACKIE KHONES OMG. WILT. AND JACKIE KHONES. AND IS THAT OKAY. I know I'm not supposed to type in all caps but I CAN'T HELP IT the episode is made of UBER WIN AND CRACK. XDDD

THE DEJA VU FOR THE WIN. And the random passer by exiting the store DOING THE ROLLER COASTER IMPRESSION. And dadadadadadadada VOMIT COMET in BATMAN TUNE.

AND VOODOO AND MADAME FOSTER FROM HELL. And wrinkled Bloo ahhhhhhhh what were the writers sniffing I want some of that tooooo XDD

I love this episode because Bloo fails. So badly. XD Wheeeeeeeeeee.

antgirl1 07-10-2007 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ptps (Post 50158)
omg thank you sparky so so SO much for the episode. XDDD This episode is crazy and filled with crack omg ahahha XDDDDDD

Spoiler Below
I CAN'T STAND THE ROLLER COASTER IMPRESSIONSSSSSSS ROFL XD omg Mac, MAC, MAC, being all smug and "HAH!" and chkchk tgtgtgtgtg chk vrrrrrrrrr tachk AHHHHHHHHHHHH and he did it TWICE DJHHSZRTJS MAC omg Mac, Mac, he is full of uber winnnnnnn

AND WILT AND JACKIE KHONES OMG. WILT. AND JACKIE KHONES. AND IS THAT OKAY. I know I'm not supposed to type in all caps but I CAN'T HELP IT the episode is made of UBER WIN AND CRACK. XDDD

THE DEJA VU FOR THE WIN. And the random passer by exiting the store DOING THE ROLLER COASTER IMPRESSION. And dadadadadadadada VOMIT COMET in BATMAN TUNE.

AND VOODOO AND MADAME FOSTER FROM HELL. And wrinkled Bloo ahhhhhhhh what were the writers sniffing I want some of that tooooo XDD

I love this episode because Bloo fails. So badly. XD Wheeeeeeeeeee.

Not REALLY, he rides it first, but finds out the ride either really speaks for itself, or it was too extreme for his little body to handle.

I have been on some rides that leave me terrified because they were too extreme for me. *shudders*

Match Stick 10-29-2007 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ptps (Post 50158)
omg thank you sparky so so SO much for the episode. XDDD This episode is crazy and filled with crack omg ahahha XDDDDDD

Spoiler Below
I CAN'T STAND THE ROLLER COASTER IMPRESSIONSSSSSSS ROFL XD omg Mac, MAC, MAC, being all smug and "HAH!" and chkchk tgtgtgtgtg chk vrrrrrrrrr tachk AHHHHHHHHHHHH and he did it TWICE DJHHSZRTJS MAC omg Mac, Mac, he is full of uber winnnnnnn

AND WILT AND JACKIE KHONES OMG. WILT. AND JACKIE KHONES. AND IS THAT OKAY. I know I'm not supposed to type in all caps but I CAN'T HELP IT the episode is made of UBER WIN AND CRACK. XDDD

THE DEJA VU FOR THE WIN. And the random passer by exiting the store DOING THE ROLLER COASTER IMPRESSION. And dadadadadadadada VOMIT COMET in BATMAN TUNE.

AND VOODOO AND MADAME FOSTER FROM HELL. And wrinkled Bloo ahhhhhhhh what were the writers sniffing I want some of that tooooo XDD

I love this episode because Bloo fails. So badly. XD Wheeeeeeeeeee.


I'm sorry ..but i'll hv to disagree here. I dont think bloo has failed completely, true, he has vomit on the coaster and lose to mac. But he did manage to 'escape' from Madame Foster in the sewing shop.

It is really sad to see once again they neglected to portrait madame foster as the sweet old lady she is in this episode, as in Fosters goes to Europe and the Foster short Birthday cake Bloos. I think the production team think this episode desperately needed an antagonist , and sadly this goes to madame foster again.

I really like Bloo in this episode, sure he screams all the time, and trys to take a shortcut resulting in more delay But in the ends he escape through his clever schemes. I mean, isnt this what we like about bloo? His witty and quick character?...and i understand his feelings as well, i too has once been trapped in a shop for hours.

i also remember this small detail in this episode that bloo crossed the road holding the 'stop' sign. though unwilling, he helped the old lady across the street. and when he was about to enter the fair, he saw the bunch of childeren wanting to cross the road too so he helped them as well...he seemed annoyed to do this, but

i think we see deep down, bloo has a good heart...
his ways to get away from the shop was funny too, and so original.i thoroughly enjoyed this episode...

Zeitgheist 10-29-2007 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Match Stick (Post 61672)
i think we see deep down, bloo has a good heart

Well, yeah... maybe? XD He seemed pretty happy when Herriman "died".
It's his heartless side that makes me love him, though

Shelltoon 10-29-2007 04:07 PM

Keith's energy in this episode is incredible. I wonder if at any point his voice was starting to give out after this. This episode also shows that Wilt and Jackie are TOTAL opposites. One's tall, one's short, one's nice, one's not so nice, it's a really great contrast.

Match Stick 10-30-2007 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 61718)
Well, yeah... maybe? XD He seemed pretty happy when Herriman "died".
It's his heartless side that makes me love him, though


yeah?...well i think when herriman 'died', bloo had no idea how it rly feels like to hv someone died. i mean, how often would an imaginary friend encounters death?..probably only in tv..so they could not rly relate that to a real death...so I think it's perfectly normal that bloo did not seem to fret too much over herriman...

but i do agree that his heartless side IS what makes me luv him..

Scrawffler 10-30-2007 03:58 AM

This is interesting about Bloo. Sometimes he shows this heartless side of him, and sometimes he seems to be more caring. I agree, though, that he probably can't relate to death so it would not have much effect on him. I think that Bloo sometimes wants others to see him as more heartless than he really is; or maybe he is becoming naughtier as the series continues (if you think back to House Of Bloos he was still troublesome but was also very friendly). He's still not completely heartless - whether he wants to be or not. XD

As for the episode, I've only seen it a couple of times but I think it's great. My favourite parts were when Bloo was trying to escape near the end (classic cartoon humour there!) and of course when Mac and the old guy were 'miming' they were riding a roller coaster. That was just so well-animated and hilarious.

Zeitgheist 10-30-2007 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Scrawffler (Post 61808)
I think that Bloo sometimes wants others to see him as more heartless than he really is; or maybe he is becoming naughtier as the series continues (if you think back to House Of Bloos he was still troublesome but was also very friendly). He's still not completely heartless - whether he wants to be or not. XD

Oh yeah, he's become the bad friend over the seasons. I mean, a lot of the time he's the antagonist (he's even been a villain, Lord Uniscorn), though not in the way that he wants to spoil it for everyone, really, just in the selfish way where he wants to get what he wants

As for if Bloo knows death... I think he realizes what it IS. He did know you go to jail if you kill someone XD (though, in Herriman's case it wasn't murder, more like manslaughter) He even knew CPR. And since we don't know where Mac's dad is, we could also assume that he might've died in the five years Bloo's been around

Only speculations, of course

pitbulllady 10-30-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeitgheist (Post 61813)
Oh yeah, he's become the bad friend over the seasons. I mean, a lot of the time he's the antagonist (he's even been a villain, Lord Uniscorn), though not in the way that he wants to spoil it for everyone, really, just in the selfish way where he wants to get what he wants

As for if Bloo knows death... I think he realizes what it IS. He did know you go to jail if you kill someone XD (though, in Herriman's case it wasn't murder, more like manslaughter) He even knew CPR. And since we don't know where Mac's dad is, we could also assume that he might've died in the five years Bloo's been around

Only speculations, of course

I don't think that Bloo really has a grip on death, either. In that respect, he's a lot like a five-yearold child. They know OF death; they know that people and animals eventually die, but I don't know if they are really cognizant of what it actually MEANS to die, or that death is permanent. Any guilt that Bloo might feel is overshadowed by knowing that his worst stick-in-the-mud is gone.

As for Mac's father, CCook revealed that an insider at Turner stated that Mac's father left the family, so presumably this means that he and Mac's mom are divorced, but in any case, he's not dead. I strongly suspected that to be the case from "Infernal Slumber", since there are no photos of the father at all, just of the two boys, Mac and Terrence. Most of the time, when someone dies, their surviving family members will have photos of them in the house, unless they weren't a well-liked family member, but it's pretty common for a person to get rid of such mementos of an x-spouse, especially if the separation was bitter.

pitbulllady

Lynnie 10-30-2007 07:37 PM

I liked this eppie from the start for a number of reasons.

1- I like roller coasters. 2- I like fabric stores. 3- I remember when I was little and didn't like fabric stores, and would be bored out of my mind while my mother browsed for what seemed like hours. And 4- It focused on Madame F. more than most of the previous episodes did.

Yes, I LOVE roller coasters. Although I'm not the type who likes to ride the same one over and over and over and over..... I'd rather mix them up a bit. If I like one a whole lot, I'll ride it again, but only after I ride another one or two. I tend to get sick less often that way.

Yes, I also like fabric stores. Ok, maybe not as much as roller coasters, but I like to humor my creative side every now and then. And sometimes just browsing and daydreaming is sufficient.

Oh yes, I remember when I was little, before I had any interest in sewing, I'd be stuck at a fabric store for "ever". I'd entertain myself usually looking at the pattern books and daydreaming of wearing some of the terrific clothes (and costumes) in there. But I actually didn't mind when my mother brought my brother and I to the Daisy Kingdom in downtown Portland. It was in a great old drafty Victorian building, it reminded me of my grandparents home. And they had a nice play area, very similar to the one in the episode. I don't remember the exact toys they had there, but I do remember all the ones Bloo played with in the eppie, I'm sure at least one of them was among the toys in that play room. *sigh* That was a fun flash back. Ah, but to be a child again...

And yes, we've seen a bit of the Madame in episodes since then, but when "SiiS" first aired it was refreshing to see more of Madame. F. It was also interesting to see more interaction between her and Bloo's characters, since we hadn't really seen that before. It did show a bit of her self centered nature, though, but not in the extreme. She simply was your typical creative/artistic lady in a fabric store, being side swiped by one distraction after an other. I now understand the thrill of creating something with your own hands, and buying supplies with which you will day dream about and how exactly you'll put them together to create this perfect..."thing". And it's your creation! You're "baby" of sorts! I didn't understand that so much when I was Bloo's age, but now days, yeah, I do. :mfoster:

And one more thing I love about this episode, which I know I've already mentioned a time or two. Bloo's excitement about going to the fair. Man, even I can't do that voice in such excitement without giving myself a headache. Kudos to Keith for doing such a great job at that. 8D

Match Stick 10-31-2007 12:44 AM

this may sound mean, but i'm glad bloo DID get to escape from Madame F. and that she will hv to pay all expenses bloo caused...i mean..SHE is the one who kept bloo in the store for so long..she could hv just buy a button and leave but NOOo...she just hv to stay and try out the new sewing machine.

I also remember this part where bloo is using the sewing machine, then Madame F.'s friends come admiring, and when madame F show her friends the doily, they ignored her and continued praising bloo. I think madame F is a bit jealous...

all i want to say is, Bloo gets to be the centre of everything even when he is in some territory unknown to him. and that this epi would make us all sympathize with bloo more...so ...poor Madame Foster..

koosie 11-04-2007 01:53 PM

I simply adored everything about this episode. I'm guessing lots of people like me know exactly what Bloo was going through having been stuck as a kid in them desparately rolling the big rolls of fabric to get some entertainment and looking at the buttons etc. Mac cracked me up too in his bits.

Now I'm not sure if it was this episode they was in, but there's several recurring background characters I've noticed in recent episodes. There's a lady with beads in her hair and another with a red hat and probably loads more I not spotted yet. I expect theres a thread on this somewhere. Local folks I suppose.

Hooray for baby ducks!

LaBlooGirl 11-08-2007 06:12 PM

And somehow, Bloo ends up liking sewing in the end.
LOL (He reminded me vaguely of Mother Hubbard...)

Who knew Bloo had such a weak stomach, too? With his outright love of adventure and craziness...that kind of surprised me...

Man Bloo is CLEVER. He comes up with a cover for the bell? Sews a giant "hot air balloon" so he can fly over the guard at the fair? MAN....some of Mac's smarts rubbed off on him. Don't be tryin' to tell me Bloo is stupid...naive maybe...but not stupid.

Great ep!

WiltsAKGirl17 11-12-2007 08:49 PM

I didn't care for this ep, but it was EXACTLY RIGHT with Bloo's boredom in the fabric store.

My stepmom sews, knits and crochets a lot, so I've spent dear Lord I dunno know HOW LONG in JoAnn's Frabric stores and craft places and was bored out of my skull.

Ridureyu 11-17-2007 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lynnie (Post 61932)
\And yes, we've seen a bit of the Madame in episodes since then, but when "SiiS" first aired it was refreshing to see more of Madame. F. It was also interesting to see more interaction between her and Bloo's characters, since we hadn't really seen that before. It did show a bit of her self centered nature, though, but not in the extreme. She simply was your typical creative/artistic lady in a fabric store, being side swiped by one distraction after an other.


Never, ever let me into a party supply store on the day after Halloween.

KazooBloo 12-04-2016 11:59 PM

Disliked :mfoster: in this episode. She was really selfish. This was one of the few times that Bloo wasn't being his jerky self or anything. Felt bad for him in this.


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