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antgirl1 01-20-2007 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Invader Bloo (Post 29607)
Wilt's dreams must be about him screwing up because all he says in his sleep is "Sorry,sorry,sorry".:D

LAWL. Poor Wilt, always screwing up in his dreams. XD

IN HIS DREAMS! XD

Well, it came true once. I guess. Or twice.

scary_dream 01-22-2007 09:26 PM

I still think he probably has nightmares about common stuff, too. I mean, nightmares can range from truly horrific to just mildly upsetting. Of course Wilt probably dreams about his past and such, but I'm sure he has "common" nightmares as well. Like for me, a nightmare I always have is that I'm really late. I absolutely HATE HATE HATE being late, but whenever I dream about it, I'm incredibly behind and everything that can possibly go wrong goes wrong. To me, that qualifies as a nightmare.

Perhaps his common nightmares include trying to help someone, but ending up just making it worse, or perhaps that Bloo beats him at basketball 8D

JPPT1974 01-24-2007 04:16 AM

But Wilt will do anything and everything for a friend
I have only seen him once or twice get angry
Always a class act IMHO!:D

antgirl1 01-26-2007 06:01 AM

I was just thinking.

Maybe Wilt WAS abandoned when his family moved away, but Wilt didn't know until it was too late. (And we didn't see that probably because we had already been told that) Maybe he DIDN'T really run away when we saw the movie; maybe he just went somewhere for a little while to "cool off", and almost convinced himself his creator'd forgive him if he tried, but finding that his home was empty, dark and lifeless. Then he found he was too late. And then he probably reconsived himself that it was his fault for everything that happened.

I actually read the idea in story form out loud, and I almost cried because it seemed so sad. And no, in the story mode I didn't make him cry. XD

For a moment, Wilt felt as though he was a lost child; one that seemed to have misplaced their parents. But however, he couldn't really relate to that because he wasn't a human and therefore cannot be a child at all. But he just had that feeling of being lost.

He thought that maybe Jordan'd forgive him of his ills, but he was too late to apologize. All of his family he had left...

Was himself.


But hey, just a thought. XD

InsaneFan 01-26-2007 07:58 AM

Hmm...Maybe. 00ber sad thought, though. =(

pitbulllady 01-26-2007 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30389)
I was just thinking.

Maybe Wilt WAS abandoned when his family moved away, but Wilt didn't know until it was too late. (And we didn't see that probably because we had already been told that) Maybe he DIDN'T really run away when we saw the movie; maybe he just went somewhere for a little while to "cool off", and almost convinced himself his creator'd forgive him if he tried, but finding that his home was empty, dark and lifeless. Then he found he was too late. And then he probably reconsived himself that it was his fault for everything that happened.

I actually read the idea in story form out loud, and I almost cried because it seemed so sad. And no, in the story mode I didn't make him cry. XD

For a moment, Wilt felt as though he was a lost child; one that seemed to have misplaced their parents. But however, he couldn't really relate to that because he wasn't a human and therefore cannot be a child at all. But he just had that feeling of being lost.

He thought that maybe Jordan'd forgive him of his ills, but he was too late to apologize. All of his family he had left...

Was himself.


But hey, just a thought. XD

I saw no indication that the Michaels family were preparing to move away at the time of the "Big Game". Jordan DID say, on the other hand, that he looked and looked for Wilt, and he was obviously very hurt that he could not find him, probably assuming that Wilt had gone away and died, like an injured animal, or that if Wilt had survived, he left because he hated Jordan for not helping him when he was hurt. Jordan even told the others that "he hates me" when they told him that Wilt was alive and apparently trying to find Jordan. Wilt was badly hurt when he left, probably in shock, and not thinking clearly at all, so he would have needed more than just to "cool off". It wasn't like he was angry with Jordan, but with himself, and we all know it's much easier to forgive someone else(as difficult as THAT can be, sometimes)than it is to forgive one's self. Wilt obviously never did forgive himself, but carried around that guilt and self-loathing for 30 years.

I'd mentioned in an earlier post that had Jordan and Wilt not been separated by that freak circumstance, I don't think that Wilt would ever have left that family. He would have always been a valued and much-loved member of the Michaels clan as long as he lived. IF Jordan's family HAD moved away following Wilt's injuries, it would have been weeks, probably months, later, after exhausting all efforts to find Wilt, and giving him up as dead. By this time, Wilt probably would have either already had surgery to remove that useless, mangled arm, or would be very sick and horrible pain, so again, he probably wouldn't be able to make it back home even if he did believe that they wanted him back.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 01-26-2007 03:37 PM

Well, we didn't have any indication of his family moving away because it wasn't in the movie. WE never knew exactly what was going on outside the court. What we saw were just BITS of Wilt's past, mainly based on how he lost his arm and eye.

The way I see it, I'd think it'd be spoiling us if we had more evidence of his past. We wanted to know how he lost his arm and eye; that's what they gave us. Nothing more.

They couldn't be lieing to us when they said that he was abandoned when his family moved, since we don't really know when exactly it happened. It could be like you said, weeks or a month after the incident happened, giving up on the search for Wilt. I had a feeling that at first, Wilt almost blames his creator for being underneath Larry, but then realised that it was HIS actions the caused things to happen, though it's the truth, Wilt MIGHT lie to himself that it didn't happen, like we all would when something this bad happens. Sooner or later he'd learn to accept the truth, but loath himself because of what HE did, until now, at the end of Good Wilt Hunting.

This'd also explain when Wilt says "Then I never saw him again," to Floofy Woogums. His creator must've moved away, since Wilt obviously couldn't find his creator either, when/if he had gone back, to find his creator, and sort things out, only to find he was too late.

pitbulllady 01-26-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30444)
This'd also explain when Wilt says "Then I never saw him again," to Floofy Woogums. His creator must've moved away, since Wilt obviously couldn't find his creator either, when/if he had gone back, to find his creator, and sort things out, only to find he was too late.

BUT, Wilt specifies that he did not lose his creator "spatially", so much as "figuratively". He had known all along WHERE Jordan was, as in his location, but felt that the emotional bond between them had been severed, permanently, by his losing the game by forfeiting that one deciding point. He would have felt that there was no point in trying to go home, since he believed he would not have been welcome any longer. Wilt's definition of "lost" is a much more abstract concept than merely misplacing something/someone or being physically separated from them.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 01-26-2007 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pitbulllady (Post 30445)
BUT, Wilt specifies that he did not lose his creator "spatially", so much as "figuratively". He had known all along WHERE Jordan was, as in his location, but felt that the emotional bond between them had been severed, permanently, by his losing the game by forfeiting that one deciding point. He would have felt that there was no point in trying to go home, since he believed he would not have been welcome any longer. Wilt's definition of "lost" is a much more abstract concept than merely misplacing something/someone or being physically separated from them.

pitbulllady

It really did NOT make much sense when he said that, though. "Figurative" probably doesn't give us much hinting to what he truly meant by losing Jordan, and gave us a word that we'd have to decipher. Even though his definition of "lost" has more to it than in a dictionary, he didn't really get to hint us just WHAT "figurative" was supposed to mean and, if not telling us, WHY he described it like that. Unless you people got it.

Being lost for 30 years is a really long time, if you really think about it. 30 years of self-loathing, convinced that it was HIS fault for "losing" his creator, convinced he had failed Jordan, when after hearing his creator's words, realised he had thought of it the wrong way.

If Wilt didn't do what he did 31 years back, Wilt would still loathe himself, for his creator would end up crippled for life, or possibly dead.

Invader Bloo 01-26-2007 05:48 PM

I bet Wilt would of tortured himself if he never saved Jordan. But atleast it's all better now!:D I doubt Wilt's character will chang in season 5. (He'll still say sorry for everything,etc...)

antgirl1 01-26-2007 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Invader Bloo (Post 30474)
I bet Wilt would of tortured himself if he never saved Jordan. But atleast it's all better now!:D I doubt Wilt's character will chang in season 5. (He'll still say sorry for everything,etc...)

Oh, definitely yeah. He said "Sorry" like, two seconds after Jordan told him not to.

It's like the whole "Sorry" thing is in his blood. XD

AND, he repeatedly said "Sorry" at the very end of the movie, even though he probably didn't mean it. You can tell he's actually giggling a bit to himself as he says it.

pitbulllady 01-26-2007 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30476)
Oh, definitely yeah. He said "Sorry" like, two seconds after Jordan told him not to.

It's like the whole "Sorry" thing is in his blood. XD

AND, he repeatedly said "Sorry" at the very end of the movie, even though he probably didn't mean it. You can tell he's actually giggling a bit to himself as he says it.

It's kinda of a toss-up as to how much of Wilt's apologizing is due to guilt, and how much is genetic, lol! If you noticed, JORDAN says the "S-word" an awful lot himself, including in that very sentence in which he tells Wilt not to say "I'm sorry" so much-"Wilt, you have GOT to stop saying 'I'm sorry' so much! I'm sorry, but that is NOT OK!"

Like I've said, that apple didn't fall far from the tree at all! Given how long Wilt and Jordan have been separated, it almost reminds me of those stories you hear of identical twins that were separated early in their childhood, who still grew up very similar in behavior and personality.

pitbulllady

scary_dream 01-28-2007 12:31 AM

Yeah, while it might be genetic, it also could be just because they spent so much time with eachother. If you spend enough time around someone regardless of how much you try not to, you WILL end up picking up their mannerisms! For example I'm ALWAYS being told that I use some of the exact phrases and words that my boyfriend uses as he's always being told that he talks like me.

I don't know how long Wilt and Jordan spent together, but it seems like they were inseperable in the time that they had, so of course they had to have rubbed off on eachother sometime or another.

antgirl1 01-28-2007 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by scary_dream (Post 30664)
I don't know how long Wilt and Jordan spent together, but it seems like they were inseperable in the time that they had, so of course they had to have rubbed off on eachother sometime or another.

2, maybe even 3 years, depending on what year Wilt was created.

I just have another thought.

We found out that Wilt's fingers and toes have suction-cups. Could he walk on walls like Spiderman?

"C" the Dragon 01-28-2007 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by antgirl1 (Post 30689)
We found out that Wilt's fingers and toes have suction-cups. Could he walk on walls like Spiderman?

Maybe. We never saw him climb something with those fingers, but that would be cool!:D

pitbulllady 01-28-2007 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by "C" the Dragon (Post 30716)
Maybe. We never saw him climb something with those fingers, but that would be cool!:D

That would be cool to see, though he'd certainly have to take off his shoes and socks first(and we know he apparently has issues with that), since that one hand would not be able to support his weight alone. The first time I saw Wilt, I could not help but to think how much his fingers looked like Randall Bogg's fingers and toes, since HE, too, has those same rounded "suction-cuppy" tips, and he certainly could climb right up vertical surfaces and cling to sheer walls with them.

pitbulllady

AprilDawn 02-01-2007 08:19 PM

I love how Wilt has like, 6 times as many posts in his thread than any other imaginary friend.
Is there really that much to discuss? Hah. Not that I would complain being he is my fave character as well (followed closely by Mac). Hmm.. Just wondering. =)

Invader Bloo 02-02-2007 05:05 PM

Wow! I can't beleive Frankie has more posts in her thread than Wilt in his. Since he's like the most popular character.

x_dummkoff_x 02-02-2007 05:10 PM

>.< what're you trying to say!?

AprilDawn 02-02-2007 05:23 PM

I find it odd so many people like Wilt. I would have thought Bloo would hold a majority of the love... Oh well! 8-)

x_dummkoff_x 02-02-2007 05:40 PM

don't you think it's better this way, though?

Invader Bloo 02-02-2007 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by x_dummkoff_x (Post 31707)
>.< what're you trying to say!?

Nothing, but elsewhere there's 80% Wilt stuff but here probably the most popular Foster(is the main discussion) place he's # 2 in post count? That's weird, like soemone trying to sabotage Wilt. Ok I', posting for Wilt now.

On topic now, I think Wilt inherited alot from Jordan unlike Bloo who is the opposite of Mac. See, Jordan & Wilt are nice, say sorry even though no one's been offended yet, & theyr'e both great at BB. (Although that's why Wilt was imagined)

Does that make up for my previous post? Sorry, if I somehow offended you Wilt super-fans. (I term I use for fanatics of any thing or person not just you people)


Wow, that was alot of making up to do.:D :D :D

x_dummkoff_x 02-02-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Invader Bloo (Post 31717)
Nothing, but elsewhere there's 80% Wilt stuff but here probably the most popular Foster(is the main discussion) place he's # 2 in post count? That's weird, like soemone trying to sabotage Wilt. Ok I', posting for Wilt now.

On topic now, I think Wilt inherited alot from Jordan unlike Bloo who is the opposite of Mac. See, Jordan & Wilt are nice, say sorry even though no one's been offended yet, & theyr'e both great at BB. (Although that's why Wilt was imagined)

Does that make up for my previous post? Sorry, if I somehow offended you Wilt super-fans. (I term I use for fanatics of any thing or person not just you people)


Wow, that was alot of making up to do.:D :D :D


oh, dude, I'm sorry if I made you think that you offended me or anyone else!
I just wanted to know what you meant is all.
I just got a bit aggressive.
^.^ sorry!

Invader Bloo 02-02-2007 06:17 PM

No not just you making all the Wilt fans angry. Gnaaaral *Pulls collar*

AprilDawn 02-02-2007 08:57 PM

Well, I cant be offended so dont worry.
Although he is my fave character, Im not a crazed fangirl who attacks those who dont worship him. :D And that was NOT a stab at anyone inparticular. Im too new here to know any better anyway!

pitbulllady 02-03-2007 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AprilDawn (Post 31710)
I find it odd so many people like Wilt. I would have thought Bloo would hold a majority of the love... Oh well! 8-)

One of the things I've noticed is that Wilt fans and Frankie fans tend to be rather sharply divided along gender lines, lol! The majority of Wilt's fans are female, while the majority who list Frankie as their favorite character are male; no real surprise for either case, given the natural appeal those characters have for the opposite gender. Bloo's fans, on the other hand, tend not so much to be attracted to him for the reasons that Wilt and Frankie fans are attracted to their respective characters. Bloo fans tend to be younger(there are, of course, exceptions) and gravitate towards his more chaotic personality. Bloo is about having fun, by any means necessary, and he's NOT about rules and responsibility, so he appeals more to younger fans who see him as another kid, who gets by with things that they wish THEY could get by with. Wilt and Frankie represent adults, who are about rules and following directions and always being responsible, so they appeal more to older fans. Among the students I teach, who range in age from grade four to grade eight, I've noticed that most of the younger one like Bloo best, and don't care for Wilt at all, then as they get older, I start to see more and more female students who like Wilt, and by grade eight, there are a lot who are all-out Wilt fangirls, in every respect, while the guys still, for the most part, like Bloo best. What few male fans he has at my school like him only because he plays basketball. More than a few hate him outright because he's red, and red represents the colors of the Bloods, and many of the guys at my school are either wannabe or full members of the Crips, but I have to say that is a rather unusual circumstance that probably-HOPEFULLY-does not represent a real cross-section of culture elsewhere.

One of the reasons I believe that there are more posts in the Frankie discussion is because Frankie is a HUMAN character, so her fans do not feel as intimidated about admitting their feelings for her, or of finding her attractive. Wilt is an Imaginary Friend, and many people still think of him as little more than an animal, like a dog or a cow, something greatly inferior to a human. I've certainly seen it strongly expressed elsewhere that for a human to find him attractive would be sick and wrong, more or less equal to beastiality, so I would guess that a lot of fans who DO find him attractive won't admit to it, for fear of ridicule, and becaue they're still struggling with whether or not it's right to feel that way about a character who isn't human.

pitbulllady

Vampyre 02-03-2007 10:36 AM

I remember that person who went on about how a relationship between a friend and a human was wrong on the FF.net forum, because she thought that Imaginary Friends were inferior to humans. That had got to be the biggest debate I have EVER been in XD.

I find Wilt attractive. I'm not in love with him, like most fans who find charcaters attractive, but I think he is terribly good looking. But I can understand where you're coming from on that one. Some people find hard to admit that they find ANY kind of cartoon character attractive, human or... thing, afraid that they would end up being called dorks or nerds or geeks or whatever, because people immediatly asume that they fancy (have a crush on) the character.

AprilDawn 02-03-2007 12:06 PM

PBL: True, I suppose I can see why frankie has the most comments being she is human and being we are all human, maybe those who talk in her thread can relate more to her and have more to talk about.
I also noticed after skimming though a lot of Wilts pages here that Good Wilt Hunting brought up many of the comments leading to his excess in pages. Oh well! I dont mind.
And seriously. Beastiality? Oh my god. Some people just want to start arguments over nothing. Imaginary friends arent animals! But whatever. Im not in love with any of them, so I dont really care.

Vampyre: Thats exactly how I feel! He is attractive. And when I say that, I mean in every way. I am attracted to him because of the character he is. He is so sweet and all, that its hard not to be on the edge of my seat every time I see an episode, waiting to see him and smile at his mannerisms.
He is not the funniest character, yet he is still my fave! I guess that is why I also love Bloo. If he were "real" I would probably hate him because of the kind of friend he is, but he always there for a laugh. 8D

Voxxyn 02-03-2007 01:36 PM

I think there's nothing wrong at all with finding Wilt attractive. He's infinitely worthier than many 'hunky' human male characters I've seen. My personal attraction to Frankie goes far deeper than just her looks.

kageri 02-03-2007 01:56 PM

Yeah, much of Bloo's fanbase is young kids, but there are also people like me who aren't attracted to him (same with Mac), or really any of the other characters. Although I guess I do like him for the same reasons wee tots do.

Also, as PBL said, Wilt and Frankie appeal to adults and teenage guys/girls, meaning most of Wilt's and Frankie's fans happen to be the two groups that also make up most of the Internet's users, so they get more visibility in the Foster's fandom.

antgirl1 02-03-2007 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by AprilDawn (Post 31764)
Well, I cant be offended so dont worry.
Although he is my fave character, Im not a crazed fangirl who attacks those who dont worship him. :D And that was NOT a stab at anyone inparticular. Im too new here to know any better anyway!

You and me both! :D

AprilDawn 02-03-2007 03:15 PM

Well, Im glad Im not alone.
I suppose being one of the older fans and still having those kinds of fascinations, I find myself on forums like this to try and convince myself Im not alone. Hahaha. Sad? Maybe, but it works for me.
It is also neat to see that yes, there are other people like myself, but I also like to see who "likes" who the best. And Im glad Im not in the minority of this fanbase and that since I like Wilt that I have support from those of you that feel the same and can tell me Im not crazy. Whoo!
Either way, I still love the show and blah blah blah.... :gooblab:
Back to Wilt!

x_dummkoff_x 02-03-2007 03:57 PM

I suddenly feel like a freak.
>> maybe I shouldn't say anything for a while.
-slumps in corner-

"C" the Dragon 02-03-2007 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by AprilDawn (Post 31764)
Well, I cant be offended so dont worry.
Although he is my fave character, Im not a crazed fangirl who attacks those who dont worship him. :D And that was NOT a stab at anyone inparticular. Im too new here to know any better anyway!

I'm with you and Antgirl1! On me being a Wilt fan and not a fan-girl, that is.:)

antgirl1 02-03-2007 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by "C" the Dragon (Post 31881)
I'm with you and Antgirl1! On me being a Wilt fan and not a fan-girl, that is.:)

For more info, read my sig. XD

Crash-N-Cortex 02-03-2007 07:40 PM

Wilt is a cool imaginary friend. He plays basketball and helps out around the Foster home. He is quite tall, yet he is a bit skinny.

AprilDawn 02-04-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by x_dummkoff_x (Post 31879)
I suddenly feel like a freak.
>> maybe I shouldn't say anything for a while.
-slumps in corner-

I hope its not because of me since I dont really know you. What I was saying were just extreme cases of people who want to kill those who do not worship the animated ground Wilt walks on.
I may not know you that well, but I dont think you are like that, are you?

pitbulllady 02-04-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Voxxyn (Post 31852)
I think there's nothing wrong at all with finding Wilt attractive. He's infinitely worthier than many 'hunky' human male characters I've seen. My personal attraction to Frankie goes far deeper than just her looks.

It's the same way with Wilt, in my case, anyway. I honestly cannot explain WHY I find him physically attractive, but regardless, his personality and character are what really does it for me. There are a lot of good-looking guys out there(and the same goes for females, too)who have the personalities of a wet dishrag. We've already seen that on the show, embodied by Dylan Lee. The old saying, "you can't judge a book by its cover" usually implies not thinking someone IS bad because they LOOK bad, but the same can be said for attractive people, as well.

pitbulllady

antgirl1 02-04-2007 02:49 PM

Don't kill me, ok? XD

I don't find Wilt attractive. The PERSONALITY is what also gets the girls. (Not me, though, I grew out of that) To me, that's what really counts.

But some people tend take that "love" too far...

EXAMPLE: A person turns up dead because he/she didn't worship Wilt.

It's almost like that there CAN'T be a female who ISN'T a fangirl. It's almost like it's impossible.

x_dummkoff_x 02-04-2007 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AprilDawn (Post 32037)
I hope its not because of me since I dont really know you. What I was saying were just extreme cases of people who want to kill those who do not worship the animated ground Wilt walks on.
I may not know you that well, but I dont think you are like that, are you?



not exactly.
it's just....
well, it's more like.....
-sigh-
ok, it kinda goes into a longer explanation that I'd rather not state to EVERYONE here.


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