My point is that Frankie has had to put up with all of them, sometimes all at once(Cheese was an isolated but notable instance). Bloo's recklessness and Mr. Herriman's fixation with rules affect others, but Frankie almost always gets the brunt of it, because it's her job to clean up and look after Bloo and obey Mr. H's demands.

Goofball's behavior caused Frankie to suffer and no one else. No one else. She didn't have anyone to share her agony with, which makes it even more heartbreaking. Just horrible and uncalled for.

At least we feel for her. Some of us, anyway. That's the part that hurt most; seeing her suffer like that and not being able to do anything about it, feeling helpless to intervene. :'(

I almost cried when I watched the episode. At least I feel better knowing I'm the only one upset by it. :'(

Antother thing that disturbs me is how every other imaginary"friend" thought goofplop wasn't a human when he seriously looked like one!!!!!Plus goofblob's nose was pointed at the end until it was "revealed" it was a (rather crummy looking)trunk! This episode disturbs me,too:frankiemad:

The reason for that was obvious, it was to further exploit the use of the episode's "so called gag". The same thing was used when Bloo barbarically tortured poor Mac to the brink of insanity with everyone at Foster's helping Bloo in "Surprise".

They believed Goofball was an IF because it helps the episode build it's point of singling out Frankie. They do it all the time in TV. Like in shows like Teen Titans where, if the episode focuses on say Cyborg, he will "convienetly" be the only one powerful enough to take down the villain of the episode.

It's an annoying cliche that can seriously bug you, even when your trying not to notice it. Unfortunately Foster's did it twice for Frankie and Mac, and they made it PAINFULLY obvious in both Mac and Frankie's torture episodes.

And Wilt, in "Where there is a Wilt there a way"
he spent the whole day just trying to watch the game,
He even developed a twitch twords the end of the episode.


Monty :-/

I hate those types of cliche's,WHY DO WRITERS DOO THIS?!(that type of cliche,mind you):frankiemad:

That "cliche"(as you call it) was what gave me the impression of the episode being anti-Frankie. :(

It IS anti-Frankie,that's why I don't watch it.

Vox's last paragraph up there might be one of the most true things in this thread. HOW did no-one notice Frankie was annoyed by him and that HE gave Frankie chores so she missed the concert? The whole house was on his side? It's just not logical.

I found some lyrics to a song I like, and they kinda remind me of how Goofball treated Frankie, and how she was feeling during that episode. I think it kinda fits:

Face Down by Red Jumpsuit Apparatus

Hey girl, you know you drive me crazy.
One look puts the rhythm in my hand.
Still will never understand why you hang around.
I see what's going down.

Cover up with make-up in the mirror.
Tell yourself it's never gonna happen again.
You cry alone and then he swears he loves you.

Do you feel like a man
when you push her around?
Do you feel better now as she falls to the ground?
Well I'll tell you my friend, one day this world's going to end
as your lies crumble down, a new life she has found.

A pebble in the water makes a ripple effect
every action in this world will bear a consequence
If you wade around forever you will surely drown
I see what's going down.

I see the way you go and say your right again,
say your right again
heed my lecture

Do you feel like a man
when you push her around?
Do you feel better now as she falls to the ground?
Well I'll tell you my friend, one day this world's going to end
As your lies crumble down a new life she has found.

face down in the dirt she said this doesnt hurt she said i finally had enough (x2)

One day she will tell you that she has had enough, its coming round again.


Do you feel like a man, when you push her around?
Do you feel better now as she falls to the ground?
Well I'll tell you my friend, one day this world's going to end
As your lies crumble down, a new life she has found.

Do you feel like a man, when you push her around?
Do you feel better now as she falls to the ground?
Well I'll tell you my friend, one day this world's going to end
As your lies crumble down, a new life she has found.

face down in the dirt she said this doesnt hurt she said i finally had enough

Beautifully said, and right on-target. :frankiesmile:

I rewatched this episode last week and the treatment of Frankie was no different than Normal. The only difference with this episode was a) the spotlight was on the "typical" treatment that frankie recieves. b) Frankie looked bad trying to prove that GoofBall was a fraude

MOnty :-/

So what are you trying to say?


btw Here's part 3 of the goofbarf satire poem



oh goofball oh goofball you should hang on a big wall

or maybe get crunched by some one that's really tall

oh goofball oh goofball you really smell like a dung-ball

and when you eventually die from taking a fall

oh goofball oh goofball WE WON'T MISS YOU AT ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


the end

What Goofball did to Frankie was nothing compared to what Bloo had to suffer in "Squeakerboxxx" and "Beat with a Schtick". Even if he spent too much time squeaking the rubber elephant and tried to steal another one from a little girl, the ending of Squeakerboxxx was really mean to him. If I was Bloo, I would have never tried to get Eduardo back in "Eddie Monster" after that. And in "Beat with a Schtick" everyone except Mac was against Bloo. How much can they hate him?

Anyway, I don't think of any episodes as shocking etc., I still like those two episodes almost as much as the greatest episodes. But Hiccy Burp was just awful! (I explained this in another thread.)

That was supposed to be her day off. It is NOT normal or typical how Goofball's reckless behavior "just coincidentally" happened to hurt Frankie and ONLY Frankie, nor should be how the entire house was ignorant of the feelings of the person who works hard to maintain them.

"Frankie looked bad trying to prove that Goofball was a fraude"; yeah, well, thanks for proving one of the chief causes of my anger at the episode. So I'm supposed to just accept it? I'm supposed to accept that someone I love dearly was horribly mistreated and made to look like an idiot? :frankiemad:

YuckieDuck - you're kidding, right? How do these episodes actually compare to the horror of IHFUMEUP? Not only was Bloo's "suffering" in those episodes microscopic compared to this, he deserved it 100%, unlike the unwarranted and over-the-top abuse that Frankie received.

And I don't appreciate your random attack on Hiccy Burp, since that had one of my all-time favorite Frankie moments.

You have got to be kidding. What Bloo went through in those episodes was nothing compared to what Frankie endured in "Imposter's". Morover, Bloo's suffering, such as it was, was the result of his own self-centered actions; Frankie's nightmare could have been averted at least in part if that worthless slacktard Goofbarf had had the decency or the wit to remove that ridiculous clown nose and prove that he was an Imaginary Friend. Frankie's misery begins and ends with him, and to a lesser extent with Bloo and Mr. Herriman; Bloo's problems came about from Bloo being Bloo. >:(

I feel the urge to make another "Squash Goofball" screencap now.

Watch the episode again. IT WAS NOT HER DAY OFF. She never gets a day off. Yes she had the night schedualed off, but she did not get it because she had to finish her work. Which she would have had enough time to finish if it was not for the Mess Bloo made in the first Minute of the episode, or if she did not spend most of the day trying to prove goofball wrong. or if she had not been in the store at the same time as that Lady. or ... I am sure there are plenty of other slow downs to her day other than just Goofball (who was only trying to get back home, to Canada.)

And YES this is almost always true, it should be a universal principle. "how the entire house was ignorant of the feelings of the person who works hard to maintain them." Most Caretakers, and Parents (Particularly of teenagers) would be able to back this statment up, how thier dependents are typically ignorant of there feelings. Anyone remember the Eddie Murphy comedy (I think it was in "RAW") it goes something like this:
you all get lots of gifts for christmas, Like the GI-Joe with the Kong Foo Grip and all you get for dad is a cheep tie.

Is one suppose to be Mad at others or Themselves when they Cause Themself to look like an Idiot due to their own Poorly found assumptions.

And one has to feel bad for Goofball, I mean the make believe buddie can barely remember his own name.

Monty :-/

Whether it was the day or just the night, Frankie missing the concert despite all she went through was just plain cruel. I don't care if it was Goofball or Bloo or Herriman or that tall lady, her treatment in that episode was INEXCUSABLE and WRONG, no matter how much you try to justify it.

And Goofball seemed very much like a human, and many false hints were placed so that the viewers could be as equally shocked as Frankie by the incredibly meanspirited 'ironic' twist. Her belief was not "poorly founded". What Mr. M said is right, the entire house believed him solely so the writers could single out Frankie for the abuse and suffering that she did NOT deserve at all.

As I've said, all Goofball had to do was take off the rubber clown nose, which would have ended the argument about his true nature on the spot. He did not do so, and in fact went out of his way to do the opposite. The nightmare which is "Imposter's" is on his head, and he is rightly to be vilified and condemned for it.

I don't get why Goofball got such preferential treatment by the house. Yes, it's Frankie's job to clean up even the messes caused by others, but it was just wrong that Goofball received absolutely no punishment despite his repeated offenses. There have been many episodes(before and after) in which the friends are explicitly punished for misbehaving--and yet this complete idiot comes, who is far from being sympathetic and has never dealt with the heartbreak of being abandoned by your creator that many of the house's IFs have felt, and gets treated like a prince. Huh?

The only imaginable reason for that was, along with the entire house unrealistically being on his side, was to further single out Frankie... and thus further making it seem like an attack on her.

That's the key word though "unrealistic" the same thing pissed me off to high hell about how Bloo savaged Mac in "I only have Surprise for you". Goofball and Bloo turned the whole house against Frankie and Mac and it really made these episodes all out attacks on the characters rather then simple pranks.

The fact everyone bought into Goofbal's EXTREMELY obvious human like appearance without any suspicion is completely ridiculous and unbelievable. The foster's gang CAN NOT be that dense unless they were tweaked by the writers to fall into such a stupid persona. It goes totally against their characters.

I felt the same way when Frankie and Mr. Herriman were okay with helping Bloo make Mac go crazy in "Surprise". The characters went against their nature and purposely put Frankie and Mac through much un-needed hell and suffering, all for both episodes to "shock us" with a surprise ending gag.

I don't get why the writers just make almost everyone go out-of-character like that! I wasn't shocked at the end I was DEEPLY DISTURBED!!!!!
:frankiemad: aaaaaaaaaaaaauuugghhhhhhk!

I was sick to my stomach. All that hell and no justice at the end. Small wonder I had tears in my eyes. :'(

It's true, Frankie didn't deserve what she got in Imposter's but she wasn't sad for long, she was happy in the end. But seriously, I would much rather lose a concert where I wanted to go than get squeaked by everyone else for a long long time or get punched by The New Guy.

And Goofball didn't do all that to Frankie because he was mean (unlike Bendy) but instead because he was very dumb and didn't understand all he was doing. And sorry about the Hiccy Burp comment. I just really hate burping gags. And the ending looked like Lewis ran out of ideas.

(But noticeably, "Squeakerboxxx", "Beat with a Schtick" and "Imposter's" were written by Craig Lewis. And so was "Hiccy Burp".)

I noticed that too,He must LOVE torturing the characters.Since all of those episodes have that concept.He also wrote"Blooooo" as well.

Bloooo! wasn't torturing anyone.

Anyway, back on topic: We all know everyone's feelings about him (Cass, Vox, FHF, and me hate him, monti wants to prove he's right, Yuckie thinks this is 'nothing' compared to Squekerboxxx), so why don't lock this thread? It's getting semi boring by now.

It's a legitimate discussion topic and while it does get heated it doesn't violate any rules. If the thread bores you, ignore it, but there isn't any reason to lock it. Sorry.

I liked "Squeakerboxxx". ;D

I was finding the conversation of Craig Lewis and the similarities of his episodes to be interesting and valid to the Thread.

as for squekerboxxx, I liked the way Coco just watched the eliphant when it was her turn, THat was hysterical (And I guess minor tortur to Bloo).

Monty :-/

This thread needs to be kept alive because, like Cass said, we need to express our outrage at Goofball and find comfort among those hurt by how cruelly Frankie was treated, and make it clear to the Foster's crew(who said that they read this forum) just how hurtful and wrong the episode truly was. :frankiemad:

"Bloooo" was tough on Frankie/Bloo but not torturing them on a snide 'you suck' sense, it was an action-packed horror parody. "Squeakerboxxx" was funny and cute. Bloo's misery in BWAS was 100% because of his selfish and inconsiderate attitude. None of these episodes compare to the traumatic nightmare of IHFUMEUP.

I wasn't trying to imply that "bloooooo" was torturing anyone,I just noted that it was also written by Craig Lewis,was all(besides that episode has some funny parts in it). Most of the times when Bloo gets "tortured" IS because of him being selfish/rude like in BWAS."Squeakerboxxxxx" wasn't torturing anybody IMO.Impussturd's(as I like to call it)was just TERRIBLE,AWFUL,and even TRAUMATIC!!!!!!!!! No episode was as horrid as it was.I know that IOHSFY was horrid but there's some difference between this "episode" and that.Plus Goofblat/barf/whatever was just stupid,IMO he wasn't very "imaginary".All he is is just a teen slacker type "friend" with a trunk!

The big thing that bothers me and pisses me off about Goofball though (besides how he treated Frankie) was that his whole existence is based on shock value, a shock value that seriously wasn't that shocking and seemed like a weak attempt to fool us.

This is just like with Uncle Pockets in "Bloo done it", where the ending of the episode reveals that every little hint, clue, and idea surrounding the so called mysterious suspicion we have of something turns out to be completely taken out of context and proved invalid by the supposed shocking ending.

Pocket's episode was almost as hard to swallow as this episode because what Bloo overheard in that episode was almost too stupid to believe. Words can be taken out of context easily, but for anyone with a functioning brain to believe those choice of words meant otherwise is just too ludacrious to conceive.

Same thing with Goofball, which brings me to my point. What bothers me about this episode is that the growing suspicion is that Goofball is a human faking to be an IF for free food and housing, but this episode purposely changes almost EVERY character except Frankie into opposites of who they are.

Anyone who would see Goofball would find it near impossible to believe he is an imaginary friend, his attitude makes it even more implausible. Which is what angers me the most, that this episode's big shocker was that Goofball was telling the truth and that he has been an imaginary friend all this time.

When the episode went clearly out of it's own way to make us think otherwise, this is insane! Clever revealed mysteries are only clever when they CAN be discovered, not a total flip around to totally blow all sensible logic out the window for the point of trying to prove everyone wrong.

Movies like "The Sixth sense" and "The Village" actually generate clues in the movie that make you suddenly realize, that those clues added up to an ending that actually connects properly. The truth was hidden but it was still possible to decipher, it wasn't a total flip up.

And what's worse is that Frankie was at the expense of the clever trick. She went through a 24 hour hell hole at the place where she lives, and with the friends and people she love only to serve as some preposterious gag to give us all a jaw dropper. Except this end does NOT justify the means.

If the writers want to make a clever shock joke then more power to them, but don't derive the joke on something that seriously wasn't what i call an interesting mystery. And if you're going to use a character like poor Frankie as a punching bag/escape goat, then maybe the joke just isn't worth doing.

Once again, Mr. M is very right. Not only was it a very poor setup and twist, it was at the expense of a very sympathetic character in the most cruel way imaginable. What were they thinking? :(

Okay, I'll accept the irratitation at Goofball, as I do honestly believe that FHFEMEUP was poorly done. However, while "Bloo Done It" used a similar strategy, I thought the episode itself still remained amusing, something Goofball's episode failed to do. That, and I generally found Uncle Pockets to be much more enjoyable and likeable than Goofball.

Basically, I just think it's to attempt to compare the Goofball episode with the Pockets episode, as I think it should at least have some leeway since it remained entertaining and enjoyable, something Goofball failed at.

I have no objections to Pocket's episode, I too found it infinitely more enjoyable then "Imposter's", I simply compared the two because both relied on a very similar plot device and both introduced a new IF that bothered a main character.

Pockets bugged Bloo and Goofball bothered Frankie. My only beef with Pockets episode is usually episodes that have people misunderstanding lines like that, don't make them nearly impossible to determine otherwise.

The quotes from Pockets are insanely direct and anyone would really think Pockets was trying to kill Madame Foster with the way he worded it. The big difference is Pockets said these things only in front of the people and Bloo.

Bloo was listening on the outside so he didn't visually see what was going on, hence the misinterpretation. Where as Goofball's misinterpretation came from his appearance which is where the gag contradicts itself since Goofball DOES look human.

"Bloo Done It" and IHFUMEUP should only be compared in terms of technical setup of the proposed storyline. "Imposter's" was much, much worse than a botched attempt at a storyline with a twist ending. All I really care about is the vile nature of Frankie's treatment. :(

I am glad that they Replay This Episode,
Because I do like it, Just finished watching it again.

I really do not see the Flaws that the Frankie fans are comments on.
no need to elaborate on those again since most things have proboly already been mentioned in this thread.

I think the Poll at the top of this thread shows that there are an even amout of Episode Lovers and Haters. I think the voice of the Goofball haters is kind of Intimidating and preventing people that like goofball from Commenting. This can clearly be seen if someone reviews the Fosters Vote Off thread in the Spam section. Since the Goofball haters do not just keep their voice of it in this thread but they also impose it to threads in different sections. and since This Goofball Bashing voice consists of some very Active members it seems to justify their actions and suppressing the goofball likers voice. I actually find it slightly offensive to see post after post of Bashing on Goofball particularly when it is not in a thread designed for that. I mean I personally do notlike Dutchess (in the least bit) but I really try to keep that to myself because it is my personal preference and it doesnt have any real substance other than my opinion.

On a lighter note:
Is it just me or have others noticed:
does Goofball and Clumbsy have the same noses?
Does Goofball and Little ABe have the same voice?

Monty :-/

They are both voiced by Tom Kenny. :-/

Yup! They played "that episode" again today! Got to watch Frankie get emotionally beat up again. I was trying to stomach the whole episode this time...and I made it (did not finish when I first saw it).:frankiemad:

The only good part is the end credits. Oh yeah anyone who likes Goofball just admit, we won't hate you, just Goofball.